2015 May 05 - CC PACKETAGENDA
EL SEOUNDO CITY COUNCIL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS 350 Main Street
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agenda items. Any writings or documents given to a majority of the City Council regarding any matter on
this agenda that the City received after issuing the agenda packet are available for public inspection in
the City Clerk's office during normal business hours. Such Documents may also be posted on the City's
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Unless otherwise noted in the Agenda, the Public can only comment on City - related business that is
within the jurisdiction of the City Council and /or items listed on the Agenda during the Public
Communications portions of the Meeting. Additionally, the Public can comment on any Public Hearing
item on the Agenda during the Public Hearing portion of such item. The time limit for comments is five (5)
minutes per person.
Before speaking to the City Council, please come to the podium and state: Your name and residence
and the organization you represent, if desired. Please respect the time limits.
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Tuesday). The request must include a brief general description of the business to be transacted or
discussed at the meeting. Playing of video tapes or use of visual aids may be permitted during meetings if
they are submitted to the City Clerk two (2) working days prior to the meeting and they do not exceed five
(5) minutes in length.
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participate in this meeting, please contact City Clerk, 524 -2305. Notification 48 hours prior to the
meeting will enable the City to make reasonable arrangements to ensure accessibility to this
meeting.
REGULAR MEETING OF THE EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL
TUESDAY, May 5, 2015 — 5:00 PM
5:00 P.M. SESSION
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
PUBLIC COMMUNICATION — (Related to City Business Only — 5 minute limit per
person, 30 minute limit total) Individuals who have received value of $50 or more to communicate
to the City Council on behalf of another, and employees speaking on behalf of their employer, must so
identify themselves prior to addressing the City Council. Failure to do so shall be a misdemeanor and
punishable by a fine of $250.
SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS:
CLOSED SESSION:
The City Council may move into a closed session pursuant to applicable law, including
the Brown Act (Government Code Section §54960, et sue.) for the purposes of
conferring with the City's Real Property Negotiator, and /or conferring with the City
Attorney on potential and /or existing litigation; and /or discussing matters covered under
Government Code Section §54957 (Personnel); and /or conferring with the City's Labor
Negotiators; as follows:
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — EXISTING LITIGATION (Gov't Code
§54956.9(d) (3): -3- matters
1. City of El Segundo vs. City of Los Angeles, et.al. LASC Case No. BS094279
2. Costigan vs. City of El Segundo, LASC Case No. BC556980
3. Penuelas vs. City of El Segundo, LASC Case No. BC523072
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to Government Code §54956.9(d) (2) and (3):
-2- matter.
Initiation of litigation pursuant to Government Code §54956.9(d)(4): -1- matter.
DISCUSSION OF PERSONNEL MATTERS (Gov't Code §54957): -0- matter
APPOINTMENT OF PUBLIC EMPLOYEE (Gov't. Code § 54957): -0- matter
PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT (Gov't Code § 54957) -0- matter
CONFERENCE WITH CITY'S LABOR NEGOTIATOR (Gov't Code §54957.6): -8-
matters
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Employee Organizations: Police Management Association; Police Officers
Association; Police Support Services Employees Association; Fire Fighters
Association; Supervisory and Professional Employees Association; City
Employees Association; Executive Management Group (Unrepresented Group);
Management/Confidential Group (Unrepresented Group)
Agency Designated Representative: Steve Filarsky and City Manager
CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR (Gov't Code §54956.8): -0-
matters
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AGENDA
EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS - 350 Main Street
The City Council, with certain statutory exceptions, can only take action upon properly posted and listed
agenda items. Any writings or documents given to a majority of the City Council regarding any matter on
this agenda that the City received after issuing the agenda packet, are available for public inspection in
the City Clerk's office during normal business hours. Such Documents may also be posted on the City's
website at www.elsegundo.org and additional copies will be available at the City Council meeting.
Unless otherwise noted in the Agenda, the Public can only comment on City - related business that is
within the jurisdiction of the City Council and /or items listed on the Agenda during the Public
Communications portions of the Meeting. Additionally, the Public can comment on any Public Hearing
item on the Agenda during the Public Hearing portion of such item. The time limit for comments is five (5)
minutes per person.
Before speaking to the City Council, please come to the podium and state: Your name and residence
and the organization you represent, if desired. Please respect the time limits.
Members of the Public may place items on the Agenda by submitting a Written Request to the City Clerk
or City Manager's Office at least six days prior to the City Council Meeting (by 2:00 p.m. the prior
Tuesday). The request must include a brief general description of the business to be transacted or
discussed at the meeting. Playing of video tapes or use of visual aids may be permitted during meetings if
they are submitted to the City Clerk two (2) working days prior to the meeting and they do not exceed five
(5) minutes in length.
In compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act, if you need special assistance to
participate in this meeting, please contact City Clerk, 524 -2305. Notification 48 hours prior to the
meeting will enable the City to make reasonable arrangements to ensure accessibility to this
meeting.
REGULAR MEETING OF THE EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL
TUESDAY, May 5, 2015 - 7:00 P.M.
7:00 P.M. SESSION
CALL TO ORDER
INVOCATION — Father Alexei Smith, St. Andrew Russian Greek Catholic Church
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE — Council Member Dugan
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PRESENTATIONS
a) Proclamation — May 9, 2015 - El Segundo Fire Service Day
b) Proclamation - May 17 -23, 2015 - National Public Works Week
c) Proclamation — May 8, 2015 — Elderfest Celebration
ROLL CALL
PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS — (Related to City Business Oni — 5 minute limit per
person, 30 minute limit total) Individuals who have received value of $50 or more to communicate
to the City Council on behalf of another, and employees speaking on behalf of their employer, must so
identify themselves prior to addressing the City Council. Failure to do so shall be a misdemeanor and
punishable by a fine of $250. While all comments are welcome, the Brown Act does not allow Council to
take action on any item not on the agenda. The Council will respond to comments after Public
Communications is closed.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS — (Related to Public Communications)
A. PROCEDURAL MOTIONS
Consideration of a motion to read all ordinances and resolutions on the
Agenda_ b� title only.
Recommendation — Approval.
B. SPECIAL ORDERS OF BUSINESS (PUBLIC HEARING)
1. Consideration and possible action to conduct a Public Hearing regarding a
capital outlay request not to exceed $30,000 from the Citizens Option for
Public Safety (COPS) Supplemental Law Enforcement Services Fund
(SLESF) account for the purchase of a Police Canine and related equipment
and training expenses. The grant requires that expenditures be utilized to
supplement "front line law enforcement."
(Fiscal Impact: $30,000.00 from COPS grant fund
Recommendation — 1) Open Public Hearing to consider specific funding request
from the Chief of Police; 2) Alternatively, discuss and take other action related to
this item.
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C. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
2. Presentation regarding the "Financial Analysis and Comparison of The
Lakes at El Segundo Golf Course and the TopGolf Proposal" (prepared by
Pro Forma Advisors, LLC — "Report"), discussion and possible action
regarding providing direction to staff about proceeding with a request for
proposals regarding operation of the Lakes, preparing a revised agreement
with TopGolf and CenterCal, or taking other possible action.
(Fiscal Im act: None
Recommendation — 1) Presentation regarding the Report; 2) Discussion and
possible action regarding providing direction to staff about proceeding with a
request for proposals regarding operation of the Lakes, preparing a revised
agreement with TopGolf and CenterCal, or taking other action; 3) If the Council
wishes to consider the potential of conducting a closed session to discuss the
potential term of a lease with CenterCal/TopGolf and /or the amount of the lease
payments, direct staff to provide thirty day notice to Debra Geist under the Brown
Act (Government Code Section 54960.2) that Council intends to meet to consider
rescinding its commitment to not have further closed session meeting regarding
the Agreement for purposes of holding discussions in closed session to discuss
different lease payments or terms of payments under the Agreement (Ms. Geist
had sent a couple of letters to the City alleging various Brown Act violations
regarding the closed session negotiations regarding the Agreement); 4)
Alternatively, discuss and take other action related to this item.
D. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS
3. Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding the status of The
Lakes Vision Committee and the results of their recent community
outreach and engagement. [STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT COUNCIL OPENS
THIS AGENDA ITEM UP CONCURRENTLY WITH THE RELATED
UNFINISHED BUSINESS ITEM NO. C2]
Fiscal Impact: None
Recommendation — 1) Discuss and provide direction regarding the next steps for
The Lakes Vision Committee; 2) Alternatively, discuss and take other action
related to this item.
E. CONSENT AGENDA
All items listed are to be adopted by one motion without discussion and passed unanimously. If a call for
discussion of an item is made, the item(s) will be considered individually under the next heading of
business.
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4. Warrant Numbers 3005624 through 3005863 on Register No. 14 in the total
amount of $1,735,873.25 and Wire Transfers from 4/6/2015 through
4/19/2015 in the total amount of $2,834,531.85.
Recommendation — Approve Warrant Demand Register and authorize staff to
release. Ratify Payroll and Employee Benefit checks; checks released early due
to contracts or agreement; emergency disbursements and /or adjustments; and
wire transfers.
5. Special City Council Meeting Minutes of April 14, 2015, Special City
Council Meeting Minutes of April 21, 2015 and Regular City Council Meeting
Minutes of April 21, 2015.
Recommendation — Approval.
6. Consideration and possible action to accept as complete the Elevated Tank
Restoration and Reservoir Maintenance Project for El Segundo's elevated
tank and two potable water reservoirs, Project No. PW 13 -07.
(Fiscal Impact: $859,86825)
Recommendation — 1) Accept the work for Elevated Tank Restoration and
Reservoir Maintenance Project of El Segundo's elevated tank and two potable
water reservoirs, Project No. PW 13 -07 as complete; 2) Authorize the City Clerk
to file Notice of Completion in the County Recorder's office; 3) Alternatively,
discuss and take other action related to this item.
7. Consideration and possible action to amend ground -lease agreements with
New Cingular Wireless PCS, LLC (d.b.a. AT &T Wireless), Los Angeles
SMSA (d.b.a. Verizon Wireless) and Sprint PCS Assets, LLC for the
purposes of expanding and relocating cell tower equipment within the
Water Yard located at 400 Lomita Street.
Fiscal Impact: Additional lease revenues, to be determined
Recommendation — 1) Authorize the City Manager to execute an amendment
with New Cingular Wireless PCS, LLC (d.b.a. AT &T Wireless), in a form
approved by the City Attorney, to expand and relocate cell antennas and related
equipment from the elevated tank to an approved mono -tree location in the water
yard; 2) Authorize the City Manager to execute an amendment with Los Angeles
SMSA Limited Partnership (d.b.a. Verizon Wireless), in a form approved by the
City Attorney, to expand and relocate cell antennas and related equipment from
the elevated tank to an approved mono -tree location in the water yard;
3)Authorize the City Manager to execute an amendment with Sprint PCS Assets,
LLC, in a form approved by the City Attorney, to expand and relocate cell
antennas and related equipment from the elevated tank to an approved mono -
tree location in the water yard; 4) Alternatively, discuss and take other action
related to this item.
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8. Consideration and possible action to (1) accept donation of materials and
labor from El Segundo resident Daniel Chavez to improve and enhance
areas at Camp Eucalyptus for his Boy Scout Eagle Project; (2) adopt a
Resolution to approve the plans for the project; (3) authorize the City
Manager to execute a contract with Daniel Chavez's parent or guardian in a
form approved by the City Attorney.
JFiscal Impact: Donation to the City of materials and labor valued at $600
Recommendation — 1) Approve to accept donation of materials and labor from
Daniel Chavez; 2) Adopt a Resolution that includes approval of the project's plan;
3) Authorize the City Manager to execute a contract in a form approved by the
City Attorney; 4) Alternatively, discuss and take other action related to this item.
9. Consideration and possible action regarding revisions to the Recreation
and Park's Department's Athletic Field /Facility Use and Allocation
Policy.
ff iscal Impact: None
Recommendation — 1) Approve the revisions to the Athletic Field /Facility Use and
Allocation Policy; 2) Alternatively, discuss and take other action related to this
item.
10. Consideration and possible action to receive and file this report regarding
emergency work to repair dwelling units at the Park Vista Senior Housing
Facility due to water intrusion without the need for bidding in accordance
with Public Contracts Code §§ 20168 and 22050 and El Segundo Municipal
Code ( "ESMC ") §§ 1 -7 -12 and 1 -7A-4.
Fiscal Impact: $50,000.00
Recommendation — 1) Receive and file this report regarding emergency work to
repair dwelling units at the Park Vista Senior Housing Facility due to water
intrusion without the need for bidding in accordance with Public Contracts Code
§§ 20168 and 22050 and El Segundo Municipal Code ( "ESMC ") §§ 1 -7 -12 and 1-
7A-4; 2) Alternatively, discuss and take other action related to this item.
11. Consideration and possible action regarding a request for the expansion of
on -site sale and consumption of alcohol (Type 47 ABC License) for a new
restaurant (Sausal) at 215 Main Street. Applicant: Catherine Ann Conness.
Fiscal Impact: N /A)
Recommendation — 1) Receive and file this report without objecting to the
issuance of an alcohol license for the on -site sale of beer, wine and distilled
spirits for on -site consumption at a new restaurant at 215 Main Street; 2)
Alternatively, discuss and take other action related to this item.
F. NEW BUSINESS
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G. REPORTS — CITY MANAGER
H. REPORTS — CITY ATTORNEY
I. REPORTS — CITY CLERK
J. REPORTS — CITY TREASURER
K. REPORTS — CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
Council Member Fellhauer —
Council Member Atkinson —
Council Member Dugan -
Mayor Pro Tern Jacobson —
12. Consideration and possible action to support Mayor Pro Tern Jacobson's
position to oppose AB 45 that intends to impose new program
requirements on local jurisdictions for the collection of household
hazardous waste (HHW).
Fiscal Impact: None)
Recommendation — 1) Support letter of opposition; 2) Alternatively, discuss and
take other action related to this item.
Mayor Fuentes —
PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS — (Related to City Business Only — 5 minute limit per
person, 30 minute limit total) Individuals who have receive value of $50 or more to communicate
to the City Council on behalf of another, and employees speaking on behalf of their employer, must so
identify themselves prior to addressing the City Council. Failure to do so shall be a misdemeanor and
punishable by a fine of $250. While all comments are welcome, the Brown Act does not allow Council to
take action on any item not on the agenda. The Council will respond to comments after Public
Communications is closed.
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MEMORIALS —
CLOSED SESSION
The City Council may move into a closed session pursuant to applicable law, including the Brown Act
(Government Code Section §54960, et sue.) for the purposes of conferring with the City's Real Property
Negotiator, and /or conferring with the City Attorney on potential and /or existing litigation; and /or
discussing matters covered under Government Code Section §54957 (Personnel); and /or conferring with
the City's Labor Negotiators.
REPORT OF ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION (if required)
ADJOURNMENT
POSTED:
DATE: 4.21 -/-4r
TIME: 1:1 0 J�
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WHEREAS, The El Segundo Fire Department has provided public safety services for over
98 years to the citizens of El Segundo, including fire suppression, fire
prevention efforts through public awareness, as well as a commitment to our
values of respect, integrity, service and excellence; and
WHEREAS, The El Segundo Fire Department also administer life- saving paramedic service
to victims of illness and injury, responded to incidents of violence as well as
other threats to the safety and security of the public; and
WHEREAS, The El Segundo Fire Department has set aside Saturday, May 09, 2015, from
10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m., to hold open house for the public to observe the
many functions of their respective personnel, equipment, and facilities; and,
learn of their readiness to protect the lives, property and environment of the
citizens they serve; and
WHEREAS, The Fire Department Open House will take place at Fire Station No. 1, 314
Main Street.
NOW, THEREFORE, the Mayor and Members of the City Council of the City of El
Segundo do hereby proclaim Saturday, May 09, 2015, as EL SEGUNDO FIRE SERVICE
DAYand invite the community to participate in the Open House from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00
p.m.
WayorSuzanne Fuentes
Mayor fto Z'em Carfjaco6son Counci(Wem6er 1DaveAtkinson
Counci(Wem6er Marie Feffhauer Counci(Mem6erWichaef Dugan
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WHEREAS, public works services provided in our community are an integral part of our citizen's
everyday lives; and
WHEREAS, the support of an understanding and informed citizenry is vital to the efficient operation
of public works systems and programs such as water, sewers, streets and highways,
public buildings, and solid waste collection; and
WHEREAS, the health, safety and comfort of this community greatly depends on these facilities and
services; and
WHEREAS, the quality and effectiveness of these facilities, as well as their planning, design, and
construction, are vitally dependent upon the efforts and skill of public works officials;
and
WHEREAS, the efficiency of the qualified and dedicated personnel who staff public works
departments is materially influenced by the people's attitude and understanding of the
importance of the work they perform.
NOW, THEREFORE, the Mayor and Members of the City Council do hereby proclaim the week of
May 17 -23, 2015 as "National Public Works Week: in the City of El Segundo and call upon the citizens
and civic organizations to acquaint themselves with the issues involved in providing our public works
and to recognize the contributions which public works officials make every day to our health, safety,
comfort, and quality of life.
WayorSuzanne Fuentes
Wayor (Pro 7'em Cadjaco6son Counci[Wember DaveAtkinson
CouncifWem6er 911arie Feffhauer CouncifVember 31ichaefDugan
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WHEREAS, May 2015 is National Older Americans Month, a time set aside annually to commemorate
and celebrate the significant contribution older Americans have made to the community of
El Segundo; and
WHEREAS, El Segundo is committed to valuing all individuals and recognizing their ongoing life
achievements; and
WHEREAS, Older Americans possess and share a wealth of experience, background and history, making
them one of the City's most treasured and enduring resources; and
WHEREAS, Older Americans are available, capable and enthusiastic to provide volunteer services that
contribute to a coordinated community-based system of social, emotional, physical well-
being of not only other seniors but the community at large thus an important part of the ties
that bind both family and community; and
WHEREAS, Recognizing the successes of community elders encourages their ongoing participation and
further accomplishments; and
WHEREAS, Janice Cruikshank was nominated by her peers as the El Segundo 2015 Older American of
the Year, a recognition which identifies, inspires and promotes community involvementand
a spirit of giving back to others through volunteerism and community engagement.
NOW, THEREFORE, on this 5th day of May, 2015, the Mayor and Members of the City Council of the City of El
Segundo, California, do hereby proclaim the month of May, 2015,
OLDER AMERICANS MONTH 2015
and
Janice Cruikshank
the
2015 El Segundo Older American of the Year
And hereby recognize the Elderfest Celebration Friday, May 8, 2015, from 11:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m., at the
Automobile Driving Museum to recognize JANICE CRUIKSHANK and other senior citizens who have given
generously of their time and talent to improve the quality of life for all in El Segundo.
Wayor Suzanne 'Fuentes
Mayor lto 7em Cadjaco6son Counci(Wem6er Dave 4tkinson
Counci(Wem6erWarie Felfhauer Counci(Wem6erWichae[Dugan
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EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATE: May 5, 2015
AGENDA STATEMENT AGENDA HEADING: Special Orders of Business
AGENDA DESCRIPTION:
Consideration and possible action to conduct a Public Hearing regarding a capital outlay request
not to exceed $30,000 from the Citizens Option for Public Safety (COPS) Supplemental Law
Enforcement Services Fund (SLESF) account for the purchase of a Police Canine and related
equipment and training expenses. The grant requires that expenditures be utilized to supplement
"front line law enforcement." (Fiscal Impact: $30,000 from COPS grant fund)
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION:
1. Open Public Hearing to consider specific funding request from the Chief of Police;
2. Alternatively discuss and take other action related to this item.
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS:
Resolution
FISCAL IMPACT: Included in Adopted Budget
Amount Budgeted: $100,000
Additional Appropriation: N/A
Account Number(s): 120- 400 - 0000 -8104
ORIGINATED BY: Brian Evanski, Captain
REVIEWED BY: Mitch Tavera, Chief of Police 305%
APPROVED BY: Greg Carpenter, City Manage
BACKGROUND AND DISCUSSION:
In 1996, the Legislature adopted Government Code §§ 30061 to 30064 to provide a block grant for law
enforcement purposes. This legislation, known as the Citizens Option for Public Safety (COPS), requires
a public hearing to consider the expenditure of funds.
Between December 2013 and April 2014, the City was awarded $100,000 in COPS grant funds. All
funds received under this grant must be utilized to supplement law enforcement activities and cannot be
used to supplant existing funding.
On February 4, 2014, following proper public notice, the City Council authorized the Chief of Police to
utilize COPS grant funds for various special enforcement details and identified equipment purchases.
Staff now requests approval from Council to utilize the existing COPS grant funds for the purchase of a
Police Canine and related training and equipment items. This purchase request is for the replacement of
Police K9 Arthur who is going to retire after nearly seven years of successful service.
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RESOLUTION NO.
A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF
THE CITIZENS OPTION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY (COPS)
PROGRAM.
BE IT RESOLVED by the Council of the city of El Segundo as follows:
SECTION 1: The City Council finds as follows:
A. Senate Bill 823 (SB 823) (Poochigian — Local law enforcement funding) was
chaptered into law on April 6, 2002 for supplemental local law enforcement
funding pursuant to the bill;
B. SB 823 provides $100,000,000 statewide for the Citizens for Public Safety
(COPS) Program;
C. The County of Los Angeles has established a Supplemental Law Enforcement
Service Fund (SLESF) in accordance with Section 30061 of the Government
Code to receive SB 823 funds which have been allocated for use in Los Angeles
County;
D. The City of El Segundo participates in the COPS Program and receives its share
of any funds available for the purpose of ensuring public safety; and
E. The City has established its own Supplemental Law Enforcement Service Fund
(SLESF) in accordance with Section 30061 of the Government Code;
F. The City Council has conducted a public hearing to consider funding requests
from the Chief of Police and shall determine the submitted requests as required
by SB 823.
SECTION 2: The City Council directs that the City maintain its own Supplemental Law
Enforcement Service Fund (SLESF) as required pursuant to Government Code §§ 30061 and
30063.
SECTION 3. The City Council requests that the City's share of the funding be allocated to
SLESF for purposes of front -line law enforcement.
SECTION 4: The City Clerk is directed to certify the adoption of this Resolution; record this
Resolution in the book of the City's original resolutions; and make a minute of the adoption of
the Resolution in the City Council's records and the minutes of this meeting.
SECTION 5: This Resolution will become effective immediately upon adoption and will remain
effective unless repealed or superseded.
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PASSED AND ADOPTED this �_ day of 12015.
Suzanne Fuentes,
Mayor
STATE OF CALIFORNIA )
COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES ) SS
CITY OF EL SEGUNDO )
I, Tracy Weaver, City Clerk of the City of El Segundo, California, hereby certify that the whole
number of members of the City Council of the City is five; that the foregoing Resolution No.
was duly passed and adopted by said City Council, approved and signed by the
Mayor of said City, and attested to by the City Clerk of said City, all at a regular meeting of said
Council held on the 51" day of May, 2015, and the same was so passed and adopted by the
following roll call vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
ATTEST:
Tracy Weaver,
City Clerk
APPROVED AS TO FORM:
Mark D. Hensley, City Attorney
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Karl H. Berger
Assistant City Attorney
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EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA ITEM STATEMENT
AGENDA DESCRIPTION:
MEETING DATE: May 5, 2015
AGENDA HEADING: Unfinished Business
Presentation regarding the "Financial Analysis and Comparison of The Lakes at El Segundo Golf
Course and the TopGolf Proposal" (prepared by Pro Forma Advisors, LLC — "Report"), discussion and
possible action regarding providing direction to staff about proceeding with a request for proposals
regarding operation of the Lakes, preparing a revised agreement with TopGolf and CenterCal, or taking
other possible action.
(Fiscal Impact: None)
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION:
1. Presentation regarding the Report; and,
2. Discussion and possible action regarding providing direction to staff about proceeding with a
request for proposals regarding operation of the Lakes, preparing a revised agreement with
TopGolf and CenterCal, or taking other action; and,
3. If the Council wishes to consider the potential of conducting a closed session to discuss the
potential term of a lease with CenterCal /TopGolf and /or the amount of the lease payments,
direct staff to provide thirty day notice to Debra Geist under the Brown Act (Government
Code Section 54960.2) that Council intends to meet to consider rescinding its commitment
to not have further closed session meeting regarding the Agreement for purposes of holding
discussions in closed session to discuss different lease payments or terms of payments under
the Agreement (Ms. Geist had sent a couple of letters to the City alleging various Brown Act
violations regarding the closed session negotiations regarding the Agreement); and /or,
4. Alternatively, discuss and take other action related to this item.
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS:
1. Financial Analysis and Comparison of The Lakes at El Segundo Golf Course and the
TopGolf Proposal conducted by Pro Forma Advisors, LLC.
2. Letter from CenterCal and TopGolf indicating terms of a Revised Proposal
3. November 5, 2013 Staff Report (with attachments) regarding the Debra Geist Brown Act
Issue
FISCAL IMPACT: None
Amount Budgeted: N/A
Additional Appropriation: N/A
Account Number(s): N/A
PREPARED BY: Meredith Petit, Director of Recreation & Parks
REVIEWED BY: Greg Carpenter, City Manager
APPROVED BY: Greg Carpenter, City Manager
BACKGROUND & DISCUSSION: 2
Following over a year of extensive public outreach process (including numerous public meetings
conducted by various City Boards and Commissions as well as the City Council), in November 2013 the
Council approved a Due Diligence and Lease Agreement with CenterCal /TopGolf ( "Agreement "). This
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Agreement provided for various due diligence items to be conducted by the parties to the Agreement,
including a review under the California Environmental Quality Act ( "CEQA), and it was anticipated
that this review would take approximately twelve months. Following the review, there would be
consideration of the project by the Planning Commission and City Council regarding the CEQA review
and a potential General Plan Amendment. CenterCal requested some changes to the Agreement and the
Council approved of the revised Agreement in February 2014.
The Agreement was never executed by CenterCal and so the staff brought this matter back for Council
at its August 4, 2014 Meeting. At that time the Council took action to rescind any authority that may
have still existed for the City to execute the Agreement and requested that the staff return with
additional information for the Council to consider.
On August 19, 2014, the City Council held a discussion regarding the Agreement, with discussion
centering around the financial analysis of the current operations at The Lakes and whether the TopGolf
Development Proposal would be financially beneficial for the City.
The City Council directed staff to seek proposals from outside entities to prepare an objective financial
analysis for the purpose of better understanding the TopGolf Development Proposal. The analysis would
compare the current and future operations of The Lakes, including modifications resulting from the
TopGolf scenario, to the revenues anticipated from TopGolf from the ground lease and resulting tax
generation. It would also identify potential burdens and risks that may arise from the proposal.
It is important to note that CenterCal /TopGolf has submitted a revised proposal to the City Manager in a
letter dated April 28, 2015, indicating some additional benefits to the City. The following changes were
offered in addition to the initial proposal:
• Increased the ground lease rent by $100,000 to $525,000 per year and the ground
lease will escalate 2% per year up until year 5, thereafter the rent will escalate at
10% every five years thereafter.
• TopGolf will provide a $400,000 cash donation towards lighting on the golf
course.
• TopGolf will offer a three percent (3 %) participation on gross receipts of
beverage sales beginning in Year 3 of the operating period.
• TopGolf will offer to hire up to two golf professionals full -time during the
construction period to support the junior programs currently at The Lakes.
• TopGolf would look to "self- fund" this development and would not require an
outside financial partner.
• TopGolf will waive the sales tax credit on the business license tax that is
available per city code, providing the City additional revenue.
• TopGolf provides direct marketing support for the golf course through various
media
On January 20, 2015, the City Council selected the services of Pro Forma Advisors, LLC, to conduct the
Financial Analysis and Comparison of The Lakes at El Segundo Golf Course and the TopGolf Proposal.
Over the next several weeks, City staff and the management company at The Lakes provided data to Pro
Forma Advisors while the consultant conducted interviews and site visits. The draft report has been
released to the general public for review and comment and has been presented to the Economic
Development Advisory Committee (EDAC), Recreation and Parks Commission, and Golf Course
Subcommittee.
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As a result of the information provided in the Financial Analysis Report, the EDAC voted to support the
TopGolf Development Proposal and recommend that City Council continue to explore the proposal and
a new agreement with CenterCal. The consensus of EDAC is that TopGolf shows viability for the City
in relation to their committee goals of economic development, revenue generation, and business
attraction.
The Recreation and Parks Commission heard testimony from members of the public and expressed
concerns to be considered by the City Council moving forward. One major concern of the Recreation
and Parks Commission was the need to have an agreed -upon plan with TopGolf prior to proceeding
with the a new agreement which would guarantee the preservation of youth programs and golf
instruction at a reasonable cost to the consumer, a key component to a parks and recreation golf facility.
It was also articulated that a competitive bid process should be conducted.
Concurrent with the Financial Analysis, the City Council directed staff to facilitate a community - driven
committee (The Lakes Vision Committee) to identify criteria that could be used in a Request for
Proposals for the Council's consideration. This committee conducted a community survey and held a
community meeting to seek public input on the vision ...
At this point, staff is looking for direction from the Council as to how it wishes to proceed. It is
anticipated that a Request for Proposal process will take approximately four to five months to prepare,
issue and bring back for Council consideration the proposals received by the City. Should the City wish
to proceed with a new Agreement with CenterCal, it is anticipated that (assuming that no further
negotiations take place regarding the terms of the agreement) it will take approximately sixty days to
return to Council with an amended agreement for Council consideration. Thereafter, again, it is
anticipated that it will take approximately twelve months to complete the due diligence process and
conduct the necessary Planning Commission and City Council hearings.
Should the City Council wish to proceed with amending the Agreement to move forward with an
agreement with CenterCal /Top Golf and want to consider the potential of meeting of further negotiating
alternatives regarding the term of the potential lease or the amount of the lease payments elect to resume
negotiations with CenterCal /TopGolf and discuss during a Closed Session Meeting, the Council is
reminded that they have previously made a commitment to Debra Geist to not have further closed
session discussions regarding the Agreement without first following a process of providing Ms. Geist 30
days written notice that the Council will be holding a public session meeting regarding the Agreement.
Debra Geist issued a couple of letters to the City Council prior to the November 5, 2013, Council
Meeting that contained numerous allegations of Brown Act violations regarding the closed session real
property negotiations meetings that were held regarding the Agreement. The Council on November 5,
2013, issued an unconditional commitment letter to Deborah Geist to not have further closed session
discussions regarding the Agreement. This decision was made because the negotiations had been
concluded and while the Council did not commit any Brown Act violations (see staff report from
November 5, 2013 which responded to the substance of Ms. Geist's allegations), issuing the letter
avoided unnecessary and potentially significant legal expenses. Accordingly, if the Council wants to
potentially return to closed session to discuss different lease payments and /or payment terms, it must
first give Ms. Geist 30 days written notice that the Council will be holding a public session meeting to
consider rescinding its commitment to not have further closed session discussions regarding the
Agreement. The Council would then need to meet thirty or more days later and consider a public
agenda item which if passed would rescind the prior commitment made by Council and the Council
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could then schedule a closed session meeting to discuss different lease payments or payment terms. If
the Council does rescind the letter it would restore Ms. Geist's rights, if any, to commence a legal action
for alleged Brown Act violations.
The City previously provided the above- described notice to Ms. Geist based upon direction given at
the August 19, 2014 Council Meeting, but when the Council considered this issue in October 2014
it decided not to take action to rescind the notice at that time (but stated in may consider such again
in the future) as the Council was not committed at that time to continuing to negotiate with
CenterCal.
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Draft Report
Financial Analysis and Comparison of
The Lakes at El Segundo Golf Course
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El Segundo, California
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General Limiting Conditions
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I. Introduction /Background
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II. Summary of Findings
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Concept
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The Lakes Historical Performance
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Golf Market Overview
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Revenue Enhancement
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Capital Improvement Requirements
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Projected Direct Golf Course Performance
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Projected TopGolf Performance
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Fiscal Impact
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Comparative Economic Summary
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Other Issues
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III. The Lakes at El Segundo
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Project Description
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Operating History
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Course Condition /Capital Cost
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IV. TopGolf
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TopGolf Project Concept
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TopGolf at The Lakes
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V. Golf Market Overview
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Demographics
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Golf Market Overview
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VI. Revenue Enhancement/Cost Efficiencies
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Revenue Enhancements
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VII. Direct Economics
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Golf Course Economics
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VIII: Fiscal Impact
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Revenue Sources
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Existing Golf Course Scenario
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TopGolf Scenario
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Comparative Fiscal Impact
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IX: Comparative Economics
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Average Annual Impact
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Present Value Comparison
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X. Vaivation of Project Components
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Net Operating Income
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Capitalization Rate
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Asset Value
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XI. Other Issues
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Appendix A
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Limiting Conditions
Certain information included in this report contains forward- looking estimates, projections and /or statements.
Pro Forma Advisors LLC has based these projections, estimates and /or statements on expected future
events. These forward- looking items include statements that reflect our existing beliefs and knowledge re-
garding the operating environment, existing trends, existing plans, objectives, goals, expectations, anticipa-
tions, results of operations, future performance and business plans.
Further, statements that include the words "may," "could," "should," "would," "believe," "expect," "anticipate,"
"estimate," "intend," "plan," "project," or other words or expressions of similar meaning have been utilized.
These statements reflect our judgment on the date they are made and we undertake no duty to update such
statements in the future.
No warranty or representation is made by Pro Forma Advisors that any of the projected values or results con-
tained in this study will actually be achieved.
Although we believe that the expectations in these reports are reasonable, any or all of the estimates or pro-
jections in this report may prove to be incorrect. To the extent possible, we have attempted to verify and
confirm estimates and assumptions used in this analysis. However, some assumptions inevitably will not
materialize as a result of inaccurate assumptions or as a consequence of known or unknown risks and un-
certainties and unanticipated events and circumstances, which may occur. Consequently, actual results
achieved during the period covered by our analysis will vary from our estimates and the variations may be
material. As such, Pro Forma Advisors accepts no liability in relation to the estimates provided herein.
In the production of this report, Pro Forma Advisors has served solely in the capacity of consultant and Pro
Forma Advisors has not rendered any "expert" opinions and does not hold itself out as an "expert" (as the
term "expert" is defined in Section 11 of the Securities Act of 1933).
This report is not to be used in conjunction with any public or private offering of securities, and may not be
relied upon without the express written consent of Pro Forma Advisors.
This study is qualified in its entirety by, and should be considered in light of, these limitations, conditions, and
considerations.
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I. Introduction /Background
ntrod uction /Backg round
The Lakes at El Segundo golf facility is comprised of a 9 -hole, par -29, executive length golf course, two -level
practice range with 58 tee stations, 4,000- square foot clubhouse, and other support facilities developed on a
30 -acre parcel. The golf complex is owned by the City of El Segundo and operated under the oversight of
the City (the golf course is managed and maintained by Lane - Donovan, a golf course professional
management firm, under a fee - for - service management agreement). The Lakes at El Segundo operates as
an enterprise fund within the City, with the objective of operating as a self- sustaining economic entity without
General Fund assistance.
The City has been approached by ES CenterCal, LLC (CenterCal), a local developer, to develop a TopGolf
facility on the existing practice range site. The TopGolf concept combines a technology- driven golf driving
range with an entertainment complex featuring extensive food and beverage facilities. The concept is
designed to serve a much broader market than traditional golfers working on their game, and the facility is
often used as an event venue. There are about 13 existing TopGolf facilities already operating across the
country, and another 10 under construction or in advanced planning. Typically, a TopGolf facility is a 3 -level
structure with about 35,000 square feet of indoor space, and includes about 100 tee stations.
CenterCal would develop the facility under a ground lease agreement with the City of El Segundo. TopGolf
would operate the facility under a sublease agreement with CenterCal. The proposed project would require
zoning modifications, reconfiguration of the golf course, replacement of the existing clubhouse, and a parking
lot sharing agreement.
The City is interested in a comparative economic analysis of the proposed complex (modified golf course and
clubhouse, and TopGolf facility) and the existing golf course. Such a comparative evaluation is dependent on
numerous factors and considerations including: the comparative direct economics of both scenarios from
the perspective of the City; short- and long -term capital improvement needs at the existing facility; indirect
revenues /benefits related to each scenario; construction impacts on existing facilities; risks related to the
income stream; parking impacts /requirements; and other such issues.
Work tasks performed for this assignment included the following:
► Inspection of the existing golf course and support facilities
► A series of interviews with individuals employed at The Lakes in various capacities
► Review of historical operating performance of the existing facility
► Assessment of the TopGolf concept proposed for the site, including interviews of general managers at
several comparable TopGolf facilities
► Analysis of the local and regional golf market
► Evaluation of current golf facility conditions and long -term capital improvement requirements
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Introduction/Background
r Projections of performance relating to retaining the existing facility as -is and the TopGolf development
scenario
► Comparative analysis of the direct economics of the existing facility and the TopGolf project
► Assessment of the fiscal benefits associated with each project scenario, along with potential indirect
impacts
It should be noted that an initial proposal was submitted by CenterCal/TopGolf, which was followed by a
revised proposal submitted in August 2014. In the analysis, the economics of the existing golf complex are
compared with both the initial and revised proposals.
Following this Introduction, a summary of key findings is presented in Section II, with documentation and
analysis contained in subsequent sections of the report.
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II. Summary of Findings
Summary of Findings
A summary of principal findings and conclusions is presented in this section, with documentation and
analysis contained in the subsequent sections of the report.
Concept
► The analysis focuses on comparing the economics related to the existing 9 -hole, executive length golf
course operation with that of a TopGolf facility combined with a reconfigured standalone golf course/
clubhouse. The economics are viewed from the perspective of the City. The economics of the existing
complex are compared with both the initial CenterCal/TopGolf proposal and its August 2014 revised
proposal.
r The existing golf course operation is evaluated assuming modest revenue enhancement and cost
efficiencies. The analysis also assumes that capital reinvestment in the facility is performed on an as-
needed basis.
► Under the CenterCal/TopGolf proposal, a state -of- the -art TopGolf facility would be developed on the
existing driving range /clubhouse site, with a reconfigured 9 -hole golf course which will remain at
approximately the same length as the existing course. This analysis also assumes that modest golf
course revenue enhancement and cost efficiency measures are implemented.
► The TopGolf concept effectively integrates a food & beverage- oriented entertainment complex with a
practice range, providing patrons with a wide variety of entertainment games, including many using the
state -of- the -art practice range.
► CenterCal/TopGolf would lease their site from the City, and be responsible for all facility development
costs, including construction of a new small pro shop /snack bar, and the cost of reconfiguring the 9-
hole golf course. Total development costs are estimated at $25 million for the TopGolf facility, plus
about $2.5 million for the new clubhouse and reconfigured golf course. In its revised proposal,
TopGolf also includes a contribution of $250,000 toward the cost of night lighting the golf course.
The Lakes Historical Performance
► Mirroring national and regional trends, market support for The Lakes has been impacted by a number
of external factors including the overall decline in the demand for golf, unprecedented expansion in the
supply of golf courses, and more recently the severe economic downturn which commenced in
2007/2008. Golf rounds on the 9 -hole course have declined steadily from over 60,000 in 2000 to a
current level of 43,200. Similarly, range revenue has declined from over $900,000 annually to
$720,000 over this same period.
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► Gross revenue for 2014 is reported as follows:
Greens Fees
Practice Range Fees
Pro Shop Sales
Food & Beverage
Alcohol - -City Share
Lessons /Camps
Miscellaneous
Total
Summary of Findings
$689,200
721,100
164,300
287,100
7,200
176,700
1.400
$2,047,100
► Net operating income from the golf course, before Citywide administrative charges, the City insurance
allocation, debt service, capital improvement reserves, and capital charges, has been relatively stable
over the last five years, ranging from about $350,000 to $450,000 per year, although 2014 net income
declined about 20 percent from the 2013 results. This most recent decline is attributed to a drop -off in
play, coupled with a sharp increase in the cost of irrigation water.
The golf course is now over 20 years old. Other than driving range safety improvements (perimeter
poles and netting), there has not been any major capital reinvestment in the course or support
facilities.
Golf Market Overview
► The national and regional golf markets performed exceptionally well in the late 1980s and early 1990s,
which resulted in the unprecedented expansion of the golf course inventory in the late 1990s and early
2000 - period. As a result of this oversupply condition, combined with declining demand which
commenced in the early 2000 - period and more recently the severe economic downturn, the golf
industry has contracted markedly, with individual golf courses at all levels adversely impacted.
► The Lakes more localized golf market has not fared any better than most, despite minimal increases in
the supply of courses, and the strong demographics of the local market area residents. The last two
courses added to the inventory include The Lakes in 1993 and the Manhattan - Marriott golf course (9-
hole par -3), added in 1995.
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► Despite the golf market decline, the local market for less- than - regulation length golf courses remains
roughly in balance in terms of demand and supply, while the area is well under - supplied with respect to
regulation length golf courses.
► The outlook for golf over the mid- to long -term is highly uncertain. Most golf analysts are projecting
0.5 to 1.0 percent average annual growth, primarily attributable to the aging baby boom generation, as
golf participation and frequency of play increase with age. However, the impact of aging baby
boomers has not yet been apparent, and there remains significant concern about the diminishing rate
of new entrants to the game.
Revenue Enhancement
► Without strategic capital improvements and intensified programming, operating performance at The
Lakes at El Segundo is likely to remain at its current level, with negligible or no growth, over the
foreseeable term, even with an improving economy.
► With regard to the existing golf course, there appear to be several potential improvements where the
cost - benefit is positive:
Night lighting the golf course would increase play (note that the course was designed for lighting,
with electrical conduit and junction boxes in place).
Heating the lower level of the driving range tee stations would increase range utilization.
Expanding junior golf camps to selected non - summer periods.
► With regard to the reconfigured golf course (TopGolf scenario), night lighting of the golf course also
appears justified. It is likely that the junior programs would be scaled back somewhat with a
reconfigured golf course.
► The existing golf course is operated very efficiently, and there does not appear to be any potential
significant cost reduction measures that could be undertaken without affecting revenue.
► Scaling down the restaurant operation to more of a snack bar would likely result in some cost
reduction.
Capital Improvement Requirements
► The golf course is in relatively good condition at this time, but given its age there will be required
improvements over the next 25 years. Under the TopGolf scenario, some of the required golf course
improvements will be completed as part of the TopGolf construction involving the reconfiguration of the
golf course.
► The estimated capital costs required over the next 25 years, expressed in constant 2015 dollars, is
indicated as follows:
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Projected Direct Golf Course Performance
► The stable year economics of the golf course under two basic scenarios has been analyzed:
Existing golf course, clubhouse and driving range
Reconfigured golf course as a standalone facility
► Under each scenario, City administrative expenses have been estimated at their historical "average"
cost, and depreciation and other non -cash items have been excluded.
► The direct golf course economics of each scenario is projected as follows:
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Gross Revenue
Less: Cost of Sales
Gross Profit
$2,047.1
261.2
$1,785.9
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Less: Operating Expenses 1.430.8
Net Operating Income2J $355.1
1� Projections reflect implementation of revenue enhancement measures.
$2,227.5
254.8
$1,972.7
1.496.0
$476.7
21 Before City administrative expenses, insurance allocation, debt service and capital charges, and capital
improvement reserves.
► The economics of a standalone practice range also have been projected:
Gross Revenue
Less: Operating Expenses"
$839.0
$445.0
Capital Improvement Reserve 30.0
Net Operating Income $364.0
11 Expenses include a provision for insurance and administrative
expenses currently provided through Citywide overhead.
$1,100.0
118.8
$981.2
1.087.5
($106.3)
Projected TopGolf Performance
► The initial CenterCal/TopGolf proposal offered the City a triple -net ground lease with a fixed $425,000
annual amount, increasing by 10 percent every 5 years.
► In August 2014, CenterCal/TopGolf revised its proposal, offering the City a triple -net ground lease with
a fixed $525,000 annual amount, increasing by 2 percent per year over the initial five years, and then
by a cumulative 10 percent every five years thereafter. TopGolf is obligated to pay CenterCal $710,000
annually, of which the City receives $525,000, after amortization of CenterCal's $2.5 million front -end
capital investment.
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► The annual ground rent ($710,000) represents approximately 3.5 -4.0 percent of TopGolf's projected
annual gross revenue, which is consistent with the percentage ground rents observed for food and
beverage and entertainment facilities in California coastal locations, which center around 3.5 percent of
gross revenue.
Fiscal Impact
► Both the existing golf course and TopGolf scenarios will generate ongoing fiscal revenues which
accrue to the City of El Segundo. The principal sources of revenue include the City's share of sales
tax, possessory interest tax, utility users tax, and business license fees.
► The annual fiscal revenue of each scenario at stabilization is summarized below:
Fiscal Revenue
Sales Tax
Utility Users Tax
$5,600
$110,590
$110,590
-
20,940
20,940
Possessory Interest Tax
-
20,200
20,200
Business License Fees
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11.915
$163,645
I - - -—
56.1991
Total
$5,600
$207,929
Less: Fiscal Service Costs
- --
Net Fiscal Benefit
$5,6001
$163,645 $207,929
Reflects TopGolf's waiver of sales tax credit against business license fee
► Neither scenario is deemed to have a significant impact on service costs.
► In addition to ongoing fiscal revenues, the TopGolf project will generate several one -time fees related to
planning, building permits, legal review reimbursement, and other miscellaneous fees. While these
revenues may be substantial, they are expected to be fully offset by one -time service costs, and thus
no net one -time fiscal impact is likely.
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► The annual stable year economics of each scenario is comprised of direct annual golf course income
(net of City administrative and other overhead charges), annual lease payments from TopGolf, fiscal
revenues, and the annualized cost of capital improvement requirements. The annual cost of capital
improvements is based on the annual amount necessary to amortize the discounted present value of
the capital improvements over a 25 -year term at a 6 percent cost of capital.
► The comparative annual economics of the two basic scenarios is summarized as follows:
Annual Benefits
Golf Complex Direct Net Contribution
TopGolf Lease Revenue
Fiscal Revenue
($106.3)
425.0
$476.7
($106.3)
- --
525.0
227.9
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163.6
Total Benefits
$482.3
$482.3
$626.6
Annual Costs
Citywide Administrative /Overhead /Insurance
$160.0
$150.0
$150.0
Construction Impact*
- --
21.1
21.1
Capital Cost"
159.5
105.7
63.0
Fiscal Service Costs -- - --
Total Costs $319.5 $276.8
Net Annual Cost - Benefit $162.8 $205.5
Represents annual amount necessary to amortize the discounted present value of the
n�ni +�I imnrnvomon +c
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$234.1
$392.5
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► While the average annual net benefit to the City provides one measure of the comparative economics
of the two scenarios, the most accurate measurement is the net present value of the 25 -year stream of
revenues and costs accruing to the City. Such an analysis takes into account the timing of the
revenues and costs associated with each scenario. Within a 2 percent inflation environment, an 8.0
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percent present value discount rate is considered reasonable and appropriate in measuring the
present value of the cash flow stream.
► The net present value of each scenario is compared as follows:
Benefits
Golf Complex Net Contribution J
TopGolf Lease Revenue
Fiscal Revenue
Total Benefits
Costs
$6,041.7
($1,347.3)
($1,347.3)
--
5,163.4
2,074.0
6,388.8
2,634.9
$7,676.4
71.0
$6,112.7
$5,890.1
Citywide Administrative /Overhead
$2,027.8
$1,901.1
$1,901.1
Construction Impact
-
250.0
250.0
Capital Cost
1,445.2
816.7
585.3
Fiscal Service Costs
Total Costs
Net Cost - Benefit
--
- --
—
$3,473.0
$2,639.7
$2,967.8
$2,736.4
$2,922.3
$4,940.1
* Present value of 25 -year stream.
Otherlssues
► There are a series of other issues which may be considered, but have not been quantified, in the
comparative analysis between the existing golf course and TopGolf scenarios.
Risk of Default: There is always a risk of default on the ground lease payments, particularly for a
concept which does not have a long track record. However, the likelihood of a default on the
ground lease is substantially mitigated by the non - subordination of the ground lease, and with a
pro forma ground lease coverage ratio (annual net operating income to ground lease payment) of
nearly 10:1.
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Golf Course Design: While there are concept renderings which illustrate that the golf course can
be reconfigured in such a way to preserve, or even extend, the length of the golf course, there
clearly are some safety issues with regard to the design. A qualified golf course architect will be
needed to ensure that the reconfigured golf course length and par rating can be safely maintained.
Economic Impact: The TopGolf scenario will produce over 400 jobs (250 -300 full time
equivalents) and employee payroll of over $8 million annually. The gross multiplier effect (rounds of
respending the initial expenditures) will produce nearly $40 million in regional gross product, 600
jobs, and over $15 million in annual payroll based on a gross multiplier of 2.0. Residents and
businesses in the City of El Segundo will capture a relatively small percentage of this overall
economic impact.
Marketing Benefits: TopGolf is budgeting about $400,000 per year in sales and marketing
expenses to promote their facility. This large marketing budget will not only benefit the TopGolf
facility, but should heighten awareness of The Lakes at El Segundo golf course. Moreover, this
TopGolf promotion would be expected to elevate the City's image and identity.
Instruction Revenue: This analysis assumes that any fees from independent contractors for use
of the TopGolf practice range would accrue to TopGolf. TopGolf has indicated their intention to
split such fees with the City, which could generate an additional $30,000 - $35,000 annually in City
revenue.
Transient Occupancy Tax: In most TopGolf facilities, corporate special events account for a
substantial portion of overall business activity and, in those locations which have a heavy
concentration of regional and national corporate headquarters, some corporate attendees from
out of the area utilize local lodging establishments. Conservative numbers suggest that this
activity may produce on the order of $15,000 annually in transient occupancy tax, much of which
would accrue to the City of El Segundo.
TopGolf Reversionary Value: At the conclusion of the lease period (including lease extensions),
both the land and the improvements related to TopGolf will revert to the City. Even though this
may be 50 years in the future, the present value of these improvements may still be substantial.
CIP Reserve: In its pro forma projections, TopGolf has a capital improvement replacement
reserve of about $400,000, or approximately 2 percent of gross revenue. While this appears to be
an appropriate reserve level, mandating that this amount is reserved annually would help preserve
the quality of the asset at the conclusion of the lease period.
Upside Participation: At one of their older facilities (Wood Dale, Illinois TopGolf), the lease
structure has evolved into a combination of a fixed annual amount, plus a percentage of food and
beverage revenue. It may be appropriate for the City of El Segundo to negotiate some upside
participation if revenues exceed certain annual thresholds.
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Guaranteed Fiscal Revenue: Based on TopGolf pro forma projections, fiscal revenue accruing
to the City is projected at nearly $210,000 per year ($165,000 under initial proposal). As this fiscal
revenue is directly correlated with TopGolf's performance, it may be appropriate to establish a
guaranteed total fiscal revenue amount, with TopGolf funding any shortfall between the budgeted
and actual fiscal revenue generated.
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The Lakes at El Segundo
The following section presents a description of the Lakes at El Segundo, a review of the golf facility's
operating history, and an evaluation of mid- and long -term capital improvement needs.
Project Description
The Lakes at El Segundo is a 9 -hole, executive length municipal golf course owned by the City of El
Segundo and managed by Lane /Donovan Partners, a professional golf course management company.
Opened in 1994, The Lakes complex consists of the nine -hole golf course, a golf practice range, a 4,000 -
square -foot clubhouse, and other support facilities. The overall site measures approximately 30 acres,
including a 4.0 -acre right -of -way parcel leased from Southern California Edison. The course is located on
the east side of Sepulveda Boulevard (State Highway 1), between El Segundo Boulevard and Rosecrans
Avenue, in the City of El Segundo. An aerial view of the golf course is shown in Figure III -1.
With approximately $2 million in annual gross revenue, The Lakes at El Segundo is among the most
successful 9 -hole short course facilities in the country. It is often used as a model for small golf facilities
developed on limited size sites.
The golf course is a par -29, 1,340 -yard layout designed by Martin Hawtree /Fred Hawtree. The course offers
seven par -3 and two par -4 holes. There are several lakes on the golf course, which come into play on a a
number of holes, along with approximately 26 sand bunkers. The course is recognized for the excellent
condition of its greens.
The golf practice range is a lighted two -level facility with 58 tee stations. The range depth is approximately
250 yards, substantially shorter than the 280 -300 yard desired depth, requiring the use of limited flight golf
balls. There is 80 -120 foot high fencing on the sides and back of the range. The landing area is natural turf.
The 4,000- square -foot clubhouse houses the pro shop, modest size bar /grill, a small meeting room, men's
and women's restrooms, and circulation area.
The maintenance facility is located on the north side of the golf course (adjacent to the #4 hole).
The source of golf course irrigation water is reclaimed water delivered under pressure from the West Basin
Water District Reclamation Plant located immediately south of the golf course. Annual consumption
averages about 100 acre feet per year. The cost of the water currently is about $1,268 per acre foot ($2.12
usage charge per hundred cubic feet plus a $.79 recycle water surcharge). In FY2013/2014, annual water
costs at The Lakes totaled just over $150,000.
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Annual historical play (starts) on the golf course are summarized as follows:
2010
2011
2012
56,901
52,850
49,464
2013
2014
49,172
43,129
Annual rounds by type for 2014 are approximately as follows:
Category
Regular
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2,964
Non-Resident
23,588
Total M
26,552
Senior
908
6,521
7,429
Monthly Passes
284
411
695
Punch Cards'
600
4,285
4,885
Junior
83
1,246
1,329
Replay /Lessons /Other*
2$4
1,959
2,239
Total
5,119
38,010
43,129
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As indicated, resident rounds account for approximately 12 percent and non - resident rounds about 88
percent of total play at The Lakes.
Current greens fees are as follows:
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$10.00
Weekend
$12.00
Non - Resident Regular
Resident Senior
15.00
18.00
8.00
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Non- Resident Senior
12.00
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Resident Junior
8.00
12.00
Non- Resident Junior
11.00
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Current staffing at the golf complex is distributed by department as follows;
Department
Course Maintenance
-
4
Part Time
1
Range Revenue
Golf Operations
4
1
675.0
Range
1
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306.3
Food & Beverage
6
3
167.4
General & Admin
1
1
5
263.9
Total
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In addition to the golf course employees, there are 10 independent contractors (teaching professionals) who
work at the range providing instruction.
Annual gross revenue for fiscal years 2009 -2014 (fiscal year ending September 30), by department is shown
in Table III -1. Note that the food and beverage gross revenue excludes alcoholic beverages, which average
just under $80,000 per year. Rather, the City's 10 percent share of gross revenue (lease income) is shown in
the table. Lessons revenue is comprised of rent from the independent teaching professional contractors
(9 -10 contractors at $600 per month per contractor), plus revenue from the junior golfer summer camp
program. Also note that a greens fees increase went into effect in May 2013.
Table
Greens Fees
Revenue 000
00• 2010 2011 2012 2013
$676.2 $639.2 $657.0 $662.8 $711.8
2014
$689.2
Range Revenue
744.0
698.7
696.0
675.0
752.1
721.1
Pro Shop Merchandise
306.3
255.4
252.2
172.9
167.4
164.3
Food & Beverage
324.6 285.0
8.8 7.3
59.2 60.4
4.4 15.7
$2,123.6 $1,961.6
263.9
275.3
298.9
287.1
Alcohol -Net Lease
Lessons
8.4
7.7
7.7
7.2
67.1
124.8
171.4
176.7
Miscellaneous
9.9
29.3
7.4
1.4
Total
$1,954.5
$1,947.8 $2,116.6
$2,047.1
Annual operating expenses for The Lakes for fiscal year 2014, by department, are shown in Table III -2. The
expenses have been reclassified to conform to a more standardized accounting format for golf course
properties.
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Table 111-2 The Lakes Operating Expenses By Department--2014
Department
Course Maintenance
Payroll & Benefits
($000)
Amount
$220.5
Services & Supplies
112.6
Irrigation Water (80% of total)
121.0
Equipment Replacement Charge
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Subtotal
$462.8
Golf Operations
Payroll & Benefits (Pro Shop)
$44.1
Range Expenses /Utilities
147.6
Services & Supplies (Golf)
10.8
Subtotal
$202.5
Lessons
$81.2
Food & Beverage
Payroll & Benefits
$158.5
Services & Supplies
4Q.Z
Subtotal
$199.2
Clubhouse Undistributed
$74.2
General & Administrative
Payroll & Benefits
$143.1
Marketing & Promotion
17.5
Credit Card
35.8
Services & Supplies
76.7
Management Fee
96.0
SCE Right -of -Way Lease
41L
Subtotal
$410.9
Total- -Golf Course Level
$1,430.8
Plus: City Administration
$130.2
Insurance & Bonds
119.6
Adjusted Total
$1,680.6
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As noted, at the golf course level, operating expenses for 2014 total $1.43 million. Adding the City
administrative expense and the allocation for insurance and bonds yields total operating expenses of $1.68
million for the year.
Golf course operating income is summarized for the past 6 -year period in Table III -3. As shown, Net
operating income is first shown at the golf course level, before City administrative and insurance charges.
Then, City administrative expenses and the allocation for insurance and bonds are deducted from the course
level, yielding adjusted net operating income. Note that non -cash depreciation expenses have been omitted
from the analysis. As indicated, net operating income at the course level declined from just over $460,000 in
FY 2013 to about $355,000 in FY2014, reflecting the decline in rounds played and a slight increase in
operating expenses. After Citywide deductions, net operating income declined sharply in FY2014, mostly
due to the significant burden of insurance and bonds costs, as well as a significant increase in the cost of
irrigation water.
Gross Revenue
$2,123.6
$1,961.6
$1,954.5
$1,947.8 $2,116.6 $2,047.1
Less: Cost of Sales
Food & Beverage
$130.0
$127.0
$127.2
$131.4
$131.2
$134.7
Merchandise
179.2
150.6
141.9
97.0
138.1
126.5
Total
$309.2
$277.6
$269.1
$228.4
$269.3
$261.2
Gross Profit
$1,814.4
$1,684.0
$1,685.4
$1,719.4
$1,847.3
$1,785.9
Less: Operating Expenses
1. 340.9
1,332.2
1,398.6
1,351.5
1 389.4
1,430.6
Net Operating Income
$473.5
$351.8 $286.8
$130.2 $130.2
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$161.1 $138.1
$367.9
$457.9
$355.,3
Less: City Administrative
$130.2
$130.2
$130.2
$130.2
Insurance & Bonds
60.4
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$282.9
$219.7
$304.6
$105.5
" Before depreciation and interest payments on General Fund debt.
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Course Condition /Capital Cost
The Cafes at E Segundo
The Lakes at El Segundo is nearly 25 years old such that there are a number of capital improvements which
the existing golf complex will need to address, particularly in the mid- to long -term. The reconfigured golf
course under the TopGolf proposal also will require capital improvements, although the scale of these
improvements will be reduced compared to the existing complex for two reasons. First, under the TopGolf
scenario, the driving range will be the responsibility of TopGolf, and second, a substantial portion of the golf
course will be renovated as part of the reconfiguration of the golf course - -that is, with at least 4 holes
affected, greens, tees, bunkers, irrigation components will be reconstructed as part of the estimated $2.5
million CenterCal expenditure.
Existing Golf Course and Range
Based on discussions with representatives of Lane - Donovan (golf course management) and the golf course
superintendent, along with visual inspection and analysis of the golf course infrastructure, capital
improvement replacement for the existing golf course and driving range are shown in Table III -4. The costs
are expressed in constant 2015 dollars, and generally reflect prevailing wage rates. For most of the
components, the timing of the cost is based on current condition and typical useful life experience.
Nonetheless, the timing is highly variable, and there is often a tradeoff between deferring capital costs and
maintenance intensity. As well, depending on the availability of capital, some improvements may be
deferred. The estimated capital cost and timing assumes that capital is available as needed. Also, it should
be noted that the cost of replacing maintenance equipment is included as an annual equipment replacement
reserve in the pro forma operating statements.
Greens - -For the most part the greens are in very good condition, although some authoritative sources such
as the USGA call for replacement of greens every 25 years. Actual experience suggests that, with proper
maintenance, the greens may last much longer, and may never need to be rebuilt. Nonetheless, this
analysis includes an allowance of $300,000 for greens replacement in year 20 is included, equal to about
$30,000 per green for 10 greens.
Bunkers - -There are 26 bunkers on the existing golf course, all of which are in generally poor condition. The
analysis assumes that the bunkers are the highest priority, with the reconstruction of all bunkers in year 1. A
cost allowance of $200,000, equal to approximately $7,500 per bunker, is included in the analysis.
Tees - -The golf course tees are in fair condition, and will need to be replaced over the mid -term. While it may
be sufficient to complete 2 -3 tees every couple of years, the analysis assumes that all of the tees are rebuilt
in year 5. The cost of leveling (and rebuilding where necessary) is indicated at $100,000, equal to about
$10,000 per hole.
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Golf Course
Table 111-4: Summary of Capital Cost
Existing Course
Year Amount"
Requirements
TopGolf--Reconfigured
Year
Course
Amount"
Greens
20
$300,000
200,000
20
$150,000
Bunkers
10
1
100,000
Tees
5
100,000
1
50,000
Irrigation System
15
550,000
15
275,000
Lighting
1
450,000
1
200,0002/
Other
15
150,000
15
100,000
Soft Costs (Q10 %)
- --
175.000
- --
90.000
Subtotal
- --
$1,925,000
- --
$965,000
Driving Range
160,000
Netting
15
- --
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Heating /Other
1
50.000
- --
-
Subtotal
$210,000
- --
- --
Clubhouse /Parking
Clubhouse
5
$240,000
- --
- --
Parking
10
100,000
- --
- --
$340.000 - -
Total $2,475,000 $965,0002/
1/ Values expressed in constant 2015 dollars.
2/ Under the initial proposal, lighting is indicated at $450,000, yielding a total cost of $1,215,000.
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Irrigation System - -The irrigation system is nearly 25 years old, about the expected life of the system. The
system currently is in satisfactory condition, but eventually will need replacement. Based on approximately
22 irrigated acres and a cost factor of $25,000 per acre, the cost of replacing the irrigation system is
indicated at $550,000. The project is scheduled in year 15 of the analysis.
Course Lighting - -The analysis of the existing golf course assumes that the course is night lighted. Given
that much of the installation work was completed when the golf course was originally built, the cost of
lighting the existing golf course, including additional required installation costs, is indicated at $450,000. The
analysis assumes the lighting project is undertaken in year 1.
Range Netting - -Most of the driving range netting was replaced recently, along with poles. The lifetime of
netting is about 15 years. As such, an allowance for replacing the netting at a cost of $160,000 is included
in year 15 of the analysis.
Other Capital Costs - -In addition to the major components identified above, there will be periodic other
capital cost requirements relating to such items as lake linings, major tree trimming, course safety netting,
perimeter fencing, signage, and other miscellaneous items. An allowance of $150,000 in year 15 is included.
Clubhouse Renovation /Parking -- Capital costs for the clubhouse are based on the premise that the
existing structure will be preserved, with substantial cosmetic improvements. An allowance of $60 per
square foot ($240,000) is included in year 5 of the analysis for these improvements. Parking lot
refurbishment is estimated at $100,000 in year 10.
Soft Costs - -An allowance of soft costs at 10 percent of hard costs shown above is included.
Reconfigured Golf Course
The Center Cal/TopGolf proposal stipulates that the developer will reconfigure the golf course, replace
parking, replace the clubhouse and complete any other capital improvements to provide a standalone golf
complex. CenterCal has budgeted $2.5 million for these items, which appears to of appropriate magnitude.
In addition, under their revised proposal, TopGolf has committed to contributing $250,000 towards night
lighting the golf course.
Until the final golf course reconfiguration is designed, exactly how much of the golf course will be replaced
can only be estimated. At this time, it appears that perhaps 50 percent of the golf course will be affected,
and 50 percent not impacted. For planning purposes, it is assumed that the undisturbed portion of the golf
course will generally require capital improvements at a proportionate cost and time to that estimated for the
existing course (that is, 50 percent).
To preserve the quality and consistency of the golf course experience, it may be necessary to complete
improvements for some items such as bunkers and tees at the same time as the improvements related to
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reconfiguring the golf course are completed. Thus, the timing of those components is accelerated to year 1
of the analysis.
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IV. TopGolf
TopGof
The following section describes the proposed TopGolf project, and presents estimates of operating
performance.
TopGolf Project Concept
The TopGolf concept integrates a golf practice complex with an entertainment facility, offering a unique
experience in the golf industry. The TopGolf concept can best be described as a large upscale "sports bar"
featuring a broad range of amenities and games, including a series of technology- driven golf games utilizing
the driving range. Utilizing golf balls embedded with a microchip and targets in the landing area with
sensors, players score points by hitting balls into the targets. The more accurate the shot and farther the
distance, the more points earned. The golf games are designed to appeal to a broad range of golfers, from
those with no experience to golf professionals.
The proposed TopGolf El Segundo facility would consist of a 65,000 square foot enclosed structure (35,000
square feet of climate - controlled space) , along with a three level driving range offering 102 hitting stations.
Each station would accommodate up to 6 golfers, and also include a seating area for food and beverages.
Each station would have a high tech electronic display for recording scores much like a bowling alley.
Stations would be rented on a pay and play basis, with pricing ranging from $20 -$25 for non -peak times to
$40 -$45 for peak times. In addition, individual games are priced at an average of about $5 each.
Memberships also are offered, with a single (executive) membership priced at $125 per month and a family
(two adults, two children) membership in the range of $200 per month. Both memberships require a $100
one -time initiation fee.
The sports bar component of TopGolf features two principal bar /grill areas, about 200 television monitors,
and numerous competitive table (e.g. billiards, foosball, shuffle board) and virtual games. The sports bar
concept has some similarities to a Dave and Buster's establishment where bar /grill and entertainment
activities are combined. While clearly catering to a young demographic segment, TopGolf facilities have also
demonstrated substantial support derives from the family market.
TopGolf also is designed to accommodate events including corporate outings, social gatherings and kid's
parties.
While TopGolf is characterized as a food and beverage oriented entertainment enterprise, the facility also
caters to a component of the traditional golfer segment. Most avid golfers elect to purchase a membership
rather than use the facility on an hourly basis.
TopGolf at The Lakes
A conceptual plan for the proposed TopGolf facility at The Lakes is presented in Figure IV -1. The plan would
involve the following components:
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► A new TopGolf facility, including the structure and practice range, would be developed utilizing the
existing driving range, practice green area, clubhouse site, and a portion of the parking lot. In total, the
building envelope for the TopGolf complex is approximately 12 acres.
► Replacement of existing and additional parking would be developed on the western portion of the site,
along Sepulveda Boulevard, impacting existing hole #1.
► A new practice putting green, with a minimum of 4,500 square feet, and practice bunkers would be
constructed.
► A new, smaller 2,500- square -foot clubhouse (small pro shop and snack bar) would be developed,
along with an outdoor patio area.
► A new on- course restroom would be constructed.
► The golf course would be reconfigured, with four holes being affected to the extent that tees and /or
greens would be constructed. The course length would be at least as long as the existing 1,340 -yard
layout, with the objective of lengthening the course to 1,500 yards, subject to the design feasibility.
The course would remain a par -29 layout, again subject to design feasibility.
The initial terms of the proposed ground lease agreement between CenterCal/TopGolf and the City of El
Segundo called for annual lease payments of $425,000 per year, with escalations of 10 percent every five
years over the lease term.
In August 2014, CenterCal/TopGolf revised their proposal. The basic terms of the revised proposed ground
lease agreement between CenterCal/TopGolf and the City of El Segundo are summarized as follows:
Lease Term: 20 years
Options to Extend: six 5 -year options
Ground Rent
Construction Period (10 months)
Operating Period
Year 1
Year 2
Year 3
Year 4
Year 5
Rent Escalation
$18,000 per month
$525,000
535,500
546,210
537,135
568,280
10% every 5 years, beginning year 11
In both the original and revised proposals, the agreement stipulates that CenterCal/TopGolf will fund all of the
costs to develop the TopGolf facility, and all related costs including the replacement parking, reconfiguration
of the golf course, new clubhouse and other support facilities. As well, the proposed ground lease is a triple -
net agreement such that TopGolf is responsible for all operating expenses related to the TopGolf facility. The
City of El Segundo would be responsible for maintenance, operation and management of the golf course and
clubhouse only.
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The revised proposal also included a commitment of $250,000 towards the installation of lights on the
reconfigured golf course, and offered to waive the business license fee sales tax credit.
The turnkey development cost of the TopGolf facility is estimated, based primarily on the experience of the
Roseville, California project, at approximately $25 million. In addition, the CenterCal/TopGolf proposal calls
for the cost of the reconfiguration of the golf course to be funded by CenterCal/TopGolf. The costs related to
the reconfiguration of the golf course are estimated by CenterCal at approximately $2.5 million.
TopGolf has provided stable year revenue projections for the TopGolf El Segundo project. The annual gross
revenue for the first operating year is projected, by major component, as follows:
TopGolf
$8,128.4
F &B (incl. events)
10,561.7
Net Event
2,009.5
Retail & Other
197.0
Total Revenues
$20,896.6
As part of this assignment, the managers of several contemporary TopGolf facilities considered directly
comparable to that proposed for El Segundo were contacted. Specifically, the managers of the Tampa
TopGolf, Colony TopGolf (Dallas) and Gilbert TopGolf (Phoenix) were interviewed regarding their performance
and experience at their facility. The results of these interviews is highlighted as follows:
► Each facility features 102 driving range "bays" with a gross structure size of 65,000 square feet, of
which about 35,000- 40,000 square feet is climate controlled, essentially identical to the facility
proposed for El Segundo.
► The revenue volume and distribution by major component at each of these TopGolf facilities was
entirely consistent with the El Segundo projections provided by TopGolf. In particular, taxable food and
beverage and retail sales achieved at these comparable facilities support the El Segundo projections.
► Event sales and related activity represent an estimated 20 -25 percent of total gross revenue volume.
These events range widely from birthday parties for children to corporate team building functions. On
average, between 25 and 50 percent of the events are corporate related.
► There is monthly variation in the business activity, which is influenced primarily by climate.
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► TopGolf offers a range of membership types priced from $80 to $250 per month which allow use of
the range at designated times. First year membership sales appear to be at about the 200 member
level at facilities surveyed, although some facilities have twice that number of members.
► Avid golfers who want to work on their golf game typically purchase a membership rather than using
the driving range on a daily fee basis.
► The facilities have been successful at creating numerous programs which target varied market
segments, including corporate leagues, tournaments, a junior golf academy and golf instruction.
► Each facility employs approximately 450 employees, with about one -half full -time and one -half part -
time.
► The TopGolf facilities have established relationships with local hotels and with meeting planners as part
of their corporate event promotion. It is not uncommon for hotel guests to patronize a nearby TopGolf
facility, and there is a small percentage of corporate event attendees who are from outside the area,
thus utilizing local hotels.
Construction Impact
Construction of the TopGolf facility and reconfigured golf course will result in closure of the golf course for a
10 -month period, depriving the City of nearly one year's net operating income (at the course level), or
approximately $450,000. There may also be costs related to maintaining key staff during the construction
period, and it could be argued that closure of the course during the construction period will have a short
term adverse impact on the rate at which displaced golfers return to The Lakes. While these other potential
costs are acknowledged, for analysis purposes, only the loss of operating income during the construction
period is included. Offsetting part of the loss in revenue is $18,000 per month paid during the construction
period, or an estimated $180,000. Thus, the net construction impact is estimated at $270,000.
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V. Golf Market Overview
GO f Market Overview
The following section presents an overview of the golf market in which The Lakes at El Segundo golf course
competes.
Demographics
The Lakes at Ell Segundo
Executive length golf courses and golf driving ranges typically draw support from a relatively local market
area. In a suburban setting such as that provided in the South Bay, the majority of market support for an
executive length golf course would derive from residents (and employees) located within a relatively small
market area. A demographic profile for market area defined by a 5 -, 10- and 15- minute drive time is
presented in Table V -1. The 5- minute drive time market area includes most of El Segundo, and small
portions of Manhattan Beach to the south and Hawthorne to the east. The broader 15- minute drive time
area generally extends from Marina del ReyNenice on the north to south Redondo Beach on the south, and
from the coastline on the west to Hawthorne Boulevard on the east. Key characteristics are summarized
below.
► Population density in the market areas is relatively high, consistent with suburban residential
development. As expected, the population expands significantly as the drive time is increased from 5-
to 10- minutes, and from 10- to 15- minutes. For example, while there currently is only about 17,500
population within a 5- minute drive time of The Lakes, there is nearly 190,000 population within the
band between 5- and 10- minutes drive time, and nearly 440,000 between a 10- and 15- minute drive
time.
► Population growth within the 15- minute drive time area is projected at less than .5% per year,
confirming that this region of the County is relatively built -out. Most of the slight new growth will derive
from redevelopment at somewhat higher densities.
► The median age for the 5- minute drive time area is 41.0 years, substantially higher than the statewide
median of 35.2, while the median for the 15- minute drive time area is only slightly higher than the
California median. The population age 65+ in the 5- minute drive time area is notably higher than
observed statewide, while the percentage of senior population with the 15- minute drive time market
area corresponds to the statewide share. Growth in the 65+ population is forecast to increase sharply
over the next 5- to 10 -year period as the first wave of the baby boom continues to age.
The more localized area is relatively affluent with a median household income of just over $103,000.
The median for the 15- minute drive time area is reported at about $59,000, slightly higher than the
statewide median.
► The percentage of the population within a 5- minute drive time is predominantly non - Hispanic white
(70.7 percent), declining sharply as the market area expands to the 15- minute drive time (16.9
percent).
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Table The Lakes Demographic
Drive Time Market Area
- -
Population
2010 (census)
16,910
202,978
637,091
2014 (estimated)
17,497
205,670
643,983
2019 (projected)
18,135
210,476
658,223
Average Annual Growth 2014 -2019
0.72 %
0.46 %
0.44%
Age Distribution
Under 20
26.6%
26.3%
25.9%
20 -64
60.3%
62.9%
62.5%
65+
13.1
Total
100.0 %
100.0%
100.0%
Median Age
41.0
36.0
35.9
Income
Median Household Income
$103,080
$70,996
$58,964
Households Exceeding;
$100,000
51.7%
36.7%
29.9%
$150,000
32.7%
20.5%
15.0%
$200,000
20.0%
11.9%
8.1%
Race (percent)
White + Asian
86.9%
65.8%
55.2%
Hispanic
16.2%
39.5%
38.3%
Non - Hispanic White
60.3%
26.3 %
16.9%
Source: ESRI Business Analyst; Pro Forma Advisors, LLC
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In general, the localized (5- minute drive time) market area is relatively more affluent, older and predominantly
non - Hispanic white, all factors which favorably affect golf. As the market area expands, population increases
significantly, although income levels and age profiles approach the levels observed statewide.
A very significant factor which favorably affects demand for golf and the driving range is the daytime
population in and around the City of El Segundo. The daytime population within the City of El Segundo is
estimated at over 70,000, which compares with a resident population of only about 16,900.
TopGolf
In general, a TopGolf facility serves a much broader market area than a 9 -hole executive length golf course.
According to TopGolf, an estimated 75 -80 percent of market support derives from about a 10 -mile radius
(equivalent to a 15- to 20- minute drive time). The balance of market support would be generated from
residents beyond 10- miles, mostly within the south and western segments of Los Angeles County.
Golf Market Overview
National Market
Nationwide, golf play increased steadily between the mid -1980s and 2000. As shown in Table V -2, during
this period, the total number of annual rounds played nationally increased at an average rate of 2.4 percent
per year. Golf balls sold, perhaps the best indicator of play, increased at a similar rate (2.5 percent per year)..
This unprecedented growth in golf play was due to a number of factors including:
► An increase in the number of golfers
► The increasing importance of golf- oriented real estate
► Expansion of the golf tourism industry
► One of the longest economic expansions in the nation's history.
The increase in golf demand and the popularity of golf - related housing development during the 1990s stimu-
lated extraordinary expansion of the national golf course inventory, primarily between 1995 and 2002. Over
the full 1990 -2010 period, the inventory of golf courses in the United States increased by 34 percent, while
the U.S. population registered only a 24 percent gain, and golf demand (play) increased only 12 percent over
this same period.
Right after the new century started, the first signs of industry problems surfaced, and have persisted for the
past 10 years. While total golfers and rounds played are down industrywide, individual golf courses have
experienced steeper declines in utilization, along with revenue contraction and falling net operating income,
as the market totals are spread over an increased supply of facilities. Further, golf course transaction prices
have declined precipitously, bankruptcies and foreclosures have become routine, and new golf course con-
struction has virtually ceased while the number of courses closing now well exceeds new openings. The
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Year
1985
V-2:
Rounds
(millions)
Indicators of U.S. Golf
Number
Golfersi
(millions)
365
Demand
17.5
..
Rate,
10.2
Golf Ball Sales,
(millions of dozens)
36.0
1990
400
27.8
13.5
42.0
1995
420
25.0
11.6
46.0
2000
518
28.8
11.7
52.2
2001
518
29.5
11.9
50.0
2002
502
29.5
12
46.7
2003
495
30.4
12.4
43.4
2004
499
29.5
11.5
43.4
2005
489
29.3
11.2
43.6
2006
493
29.4
11.2
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2007
490
29.5
11.1
43.5
2008
481
28.6
10.7
42.2
2009
477
27,1
10
40.1
2010
475
26.1
9.6
--
2011
463
25.7
9.2
2012
490
25.3
9.0
--
2013
465
24.7
8.9
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Average Annual Growth
1985 -1990
1.8%
9.7%
--
3.1%
1990 -1995 1.0% (2.1)% 1.8%
1995 -2000 4.3% 2.9% -- 2.6%
Subtotal 2.4% 3.4% 2.5%
2000 -2005 (1.1%) 0.3% (3.5 %)
2005 -2010 (1.0 %) (2.3%) -- (2.1 %)V
2010 -2013 (0.7 %) (1.8 %) -
1/ Represents golfers over 12 years of age. 2/ Estimated by PFA. 3/ Estimated by PFA based on "soft goods" sales recorded by
Data Tech and golf ball manufacture sales. 4/ For period 2005 -2009. s Data for 2010 -2013 not available in comparable format.
Source: National Golf Foundation and Pro Forma Advisors LLC.
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impact of market softness has been widespread and affected all segments of the market and all geographic
areas.
The National Golf Foundation (NGF) reports that over the 2001 -2011 period, annual golf play in the United
States declined from 518 million to 463 million rounds, or over 11 percent, rebounding somewhat in 2012 to
490 million rounds before declining again in 2013 and 2014 to about 465 million rounds. Golf ball sales, per-
haps a better indicator of demand, declined by about 20 -25 percent over this time period. The golf partici-
pation rate, after rising steadily through 2003, has fallen precipitously from 12.4 percent in 2004 to a current
level estimated at just under 9.0 percent. (It should be noted that the golfer participation rate is based on the
number of golfers relative to the population over the age of 6 years old). Since 2007, the golf market has
been significantly impacted by the national economic recession. Annual rounds in the U.S., according to
industry reports, have declined by nearly 5 percent since 2007. Other independent sources indicate a much
more severe contraction, which is borne out by other market indicators.
Since 2002, the construction of new courses has declined sharply, and the rate at which courses have
closed has accelerated. Between 2006 and 2014, for example, the number of courses closed exceeded
new course openings. New courses have been added to the inventory since 2006 at an annual rate of 50-
60 courses per year, while course closings have averaged about 120 per year over this period. Despite the
slowing expansion of new supply over the past eight years, golf market conditions in most markets contin-
ued to deteriorate, although most markets experienced some stability over the past three years.
Regional Golf Market
Golf demand in Southern California also increased steadily over the 1980 -2000 period. Through the mid -
1990s, there was relatively limited expansion of the inventory of golf facilities. In the early 1990s, the munici-
pal golf courses and limited number of daily fee golf courses in Southern California were performing excep-
tionally well, with municipal golf course play exceeding 100,000 rounds at many Southern California courses
and play on daily fee courses in the range of 60,000- 80,000 annual rounds.
In response to increasing demand and a static supply situation, a number of golf courses were developed. A
total of 55 public golf courses have opened in Southern California since 1995. These additions represent a
33 percent increase in the Southern California public golf course inventory. At the same time, six regulation
length public golf courses have been closed in Southern California over the past 6 -7 years, reducing the net
increase to 49 courses (29 %).
Play at public golf courses in the region for the 2008 through 2014 period has varied according to market
positioning. High -end daily fee courses have generally experienced declines in play averaging about 15 to 25
percent from 2007 levels. Entry level and mid - market courses have experienced moderate (10 -15 percent)
changes in play over the 2007 -2014 period. The loss in play on shorter courses (par -3 and executive length)
has generally been greater than on regulation length courses, apparently reflecting the decline in new golf
participants as well as the general falloff in golf participation.
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An inventory of regional golf courses is contained in Table V -3. The inventory of par -3 and executive length
public golf courses located within (or on the periphery of) the primary market area is as follows:
Course
Lakes at El Segundo"
Course .-
Executive
9
.- -
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Manhattan- Marriott*
Par -3
9
1.7
Westchester*
Executive
18
4.6
Alondra Park`
Par -3
18
5.3
Penmar
Executive
9
8.3
Rancho Park
Par -3
9
9.8
Within 15- minute drive time market area.
Selected characteristics of nine hole par -3 and executive length courses is presented in Table V -4. The
following provides a brief overview of golf market conditions.
► Nationally and in California, short courses (executive and par -3) account for 11 percent and 20 percent
of the total number of public golf courses, respectively. In Los Angeles County, about 30 percent of
the public inventory is less than regulation length.
► The ratio of population per short course (18 -hole equivalent), a general measure of supply- demand
condition, is calculated at 321,500 within the primary (15- minute drive time) market area compared
with 335,000 in Los Angeles County and 300,000 statewide. This gross measure suggests that the
local less- than - regulation length golf market is generally in- balance at this time.
► Par -3 and executive length courses typically attract three distinct market segments -- juniors, seniors,
and beginning golfers. These courses, in many respects, serve as the incubator for the golf industry
Combining practice facilities with the short courses creates the opportunity for a full - service golf
learning center.
► In addition to these shorter courses, there are three regulation length 18 -hole golf courses available to
the public in the broader market area. The ratio of regulation length golf courses in the broader region
is calculated at about 500,000 population per course compared with a statewide ratio of only 90,000,
suggesting this region is substantially underserved with regard to public access regulation length golf
courses.
► Annual play (starts) at this selected sample of short courses varies widely. Most facilities without lights
accommodate 40,000 to 60,000 rounds per year.
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Course
The Lakes
Driving Number
Distance Holes
(miles)
- -- 9
29
. -
Length (yards)
1,340
Region
.-
(number of
tees)
58
Manhattan Marriott
1.7
9
27
1,209
- --
Westchester
Alondra Park -Reg
4.6
18
64
4,339
80
40
5.3
18
72
6,323
Alondra Park -Exec
5.3
18
54
2,356
40
Chester Washington
6.0
18
72
6,348
20
Penmar
8.3
9
33
2,501
---
Rancho Park -Reg
9.8
18
72
6,585
45
Rancho Park -Par 3
9.8
9
27
1,984
45
Victoria
10.5
18
72
6,616
30
Harbor Park
14.3
9
36
3,161
Links at Terranea
Los Verdes J
14.7
9
27
1,239
15.6
18
72
6,273
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Type of Course
V-4: Selected Characteristics
The Lakes
Executive
of Regional
Marriott
Par -3
Shor-t Golf Courses
-
Executive
Roosevelt
Executive
Owner
City of El Segundo
Marriott
City of Los Angeles
City of Los Angeles
Operator
Lane /Donovan
Marriott
City of Los Angeles
City of Los Angeles
Year Opened
1994
1988
9
27
No
1962
1964
# of Holes
9
9
9
Par
29
No
33
33
Lighted
No
No
Length (yards)
1,340
1,213
2,501
2,400
Type of Tees
Natural Turf
Natural Turf
Natural Turf
Practice Range
Yes
No
No
No
# of Tees
58
---
--
- --
Lighted
Yes
---
- -
- --
Natural /Artificial
Artificial Mats
- -
- -
- --
Annual Rounds
43,200
25,000
90,000
75,000
Greens Fees
WD Regular
$15/$101/
19.00
$17.50/$14.501
$17.50/$14.501
WD Senior
12/81/
15.00/12,001/
12.00/9.001/
12.00/9.001/
WD Junior
11/81/
15.00/12.001/
5.00
5.00
WE Regular
$18/$121/
22.00
22.00/19.001/
22.00/19.001/
WE Senior
$18/$121/
---
14.00/11.001/
14.00/11.001/
WE Junior
$15/$121/
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6.00
6.00
Golf Carts- Inventory
none
none
none
none
Fee /Player
- --
---
---
---
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Type of Course
Selected
(continued): Characteristics of Regional
Ironwood Van Nuys Vista Valencia
Executive Executive Par -3
Executive
Owner
City of Cerritos
L.A. Dept of Airports
American Golf
County of Orange
Operator
City of Cerritos
So. Cal. Golf LLC
American Golf
American Golf
Year Opened
1977
1965
1963
1991
# of Holes
9
9
9
9
Par
29
30
27
29
Lighted
No
Yes
No
Yes
Length (yards)
1,468
1,574
915
1,115
Type of Tees
Both
Artificial Mats
Turf
Turf
Practice Range
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
# of Tees
25
42
30
86
Lighted
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Natural /Artificial
Both
Artificial Mats
Both
Artificial Mats
Annual Rounds
55,000
60,000
35,000
50,000
Greens Fees
WD Regular
$13.00/11.001/
$13.00
$13.00
$14.00
WD Senior
9.00/8.001/
11.00
10.00
9.00
WD Junior
8.50/7.501/
11.00
10.00
9.00
WE Regular
14.00/12.001/
17.00
16.00
16.00
WE Senior
- --
---
- --
11.00
WE Junior
8.50/7.501/
-
- --
11.00
Golf Carts- Inventory
none
none
none
3
Fee /Player
- --
- --
$7.00
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► Use of golf course night lighting extends the capacity of the course by an average of four hours in the
winter and two hours in the summer. A high percentage (40 -50 percent) of additional capacity is
utilized in the summer, and 20 -30 percent in the winter. Overall, night lighting should result in an
increase of about 15 -20 percent in play levels annually.
► Greens fees also vary widely depending on the course location, quality, length and other factors.
However, a reasonable rule -of -thumb is a standard rate structure based on about $10 per 1,000 yards
of course length:
Lakes at El Segundo
1,340
$15.00
$18.00
$11,19
$13.43
Manhattan Marriott
1,209
19.00
22.00
15,72
18.20
Westchester
Van Nuys
4,339
23.50
16.00
13.00
30.50
5.42
7.03
2,181
20,00
7.34
9.17
Alondra Park
2,356
16,25
5.52
6.90
Verdugo Hills
1,805
16.00
18,00
8.86
9.97
Heartwell
2,143
16.00
18.00 7.47
30.25 5.15
29.50 5.15
16.00 14.21
16.50 8.08
16.00 12.56
8,40
El Cariso
4,463
23.00
6.78
Vista Valencia -Exec
Vista Valencia -Par 3
Bixby Village
Lake Forest
4,366
22.50
6.76
915
13.00
17.49
1,795
14.50
14.001
9.19
14.35
1,115
► Seniors and juniors typically receive greens fees discounts at the competitive courses surveyed.
However, most facilities impose restrictions when discount play is accepted. Generally, discount play
is either totally restricted on weekends, or limited until afternoon on these days.
► Nearly all 18 -hole courses offer twilight or 9 -hole rates, typically set at about 60 percent of the regular
rate. Courses with night lighting have varying price policies. Some charge the twilight rate, but most
charge either the regular rate or the weekend rate for night play.
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► Short courses in this region are used heavily by juniors and seniors. The percentage of play at Los
Angeles County courses, for example, is summarized as follows:
Regular
Junior
Senior
Tournament
Complimentary/Special
Total
63%
71%
69%
5%
3%
3%
28%
18%
21%
2%
7 0
6%
210.
100%
11a
11e
100%
100%
Note: Regular play also includes senior /junior golfers paying regular greens fees
► In general, most par -3 and executive length golf courses have experienced modest declines in play,
while regulation length golf course play has been relatively stable. While The Lakes experienced a
decline in play of about 12 percent in 2014 compared with 2013, Westchester's 18 -hole executive
course has showed no decline at all over the past several years. On the other hand, play on the 18-
hole par -3 golf course at Alondra Park has declined nearly 20 percent over the past year.
► There are six golf course - affiliated practice ranges in (and on the periphery of) the primary market area:
Facility
Lakes at El Segundo
Distance from
Subject
---
Number
58
.
Yes
Westchester
4.6
80
Yes
Alondra Park
Chester Washington
5.3
40
Yes
6.0
20
No
Rancho Park
LOS Verdes
9.8
43
Yes
15.6
42
No
Total Market Area
-- JL
283
- --
► Most of the facilities are price in the $.12 per ball range for medium -sized buckets (60 -70 balls) and
$.10 per ball for a large bucket (100 balls).
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► Annual gross revenue at the lighted facilities with 40 -60 tee stations is generally in the $10,000 to
$12,000 per tee station.
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VI. Revenue Enhancement /Cost Efficiencies
Several modifications to the facility and changes in operating policies have been suggested in an effort to
increase play and revenue on the golf course. The following section evaluates the merit of several suggested
modifications.
Revenue Enhancements
Night Lighting
The concept of night lighting at The Lakes is evaluated on a cost - benefit basis. The benefit of night lighting
is attributed to extending the capacity of the golf course by both allowing play to start pre -dawn and into the
evening. A number of par -3 and executive length golf courses in Southern California feature night lighting
including Westchester Golf Course in Westchester, David Baker Golf Course in Fountain Valley, Lake Forest
Golf and Practice Center in Irvine, Newport Beach Golf Course in Newport Beach, Mission Bay Golf Course
in San Diego, Arroyo Seco in South Pasadena, and Van Nuys Golf Course in Van Nuys. A survey of these
courses revealed the following observations:
► The moderate Southern California climate lends itself to night time play.
► Night lighting creates greater capacity, ranging from four additional hours in the winter and two
additional hours in the summer. At an average of 30 golfer tee times per hour, additional capacity
averages about 90 tee times per day on a year -round basis.
► Utilization of night time tee times varies among golf course depending on location, strength of market,
climate, pricing, product quality and other factors. On average, utilization tends to average about
20 -30 percent, resulting in about 20 -30 additional rounds per day.
► Most of the existing lighted courses operate with older generation systems which are less effective and
more costly than current technology provides.
► The pricing strategy for night play varies among courses. Some courses charge the same rates
throughout the day /night, while others charge the twilight rate for night time play.
► Night lighting creates greater opportunity to accommodate league play.
► Most night lighted golf courses also offer lighted driving ranges such that there are clear economies in
staffing at night.
► Managers believe that while the economics of night lighting are not overwhelmingly positive given the
age of their lighting systems, the uniqueness of the lighting is beneficial in project identification and
image.
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► The electrical cost of the older lighting systems average about $3.50 -$4.00 per acre per hour,
substantially more than the $1.00 per acre per hour cost associated with contemporary systems.
Importantly, The Lakes was designed and constructed with the idea that night lighting could be easily added.
As such, the course includes a network of junction boxes, and underground electrical conduit for lighting is
in- place. Given this situation, and based on discussions with a sports lighting manufacturing representative
with golf course lighting experience, the "turnkey" capital cost of a lighting system for The Lakes is roughly
estimated at about $450,000, including the lighting system and installation. The annual amortization cost,
based on a 25 -year life and 5 percent cost of capital, is calculated at $32,000.
Based on the experience of other Southern California lighted courses, it is estimated that night lighting at The
Lakes will result in an average of about 25 rounds of golf per day, or 8,750 rounds annually. Thus, the annual
economic cost - benefit of providing night lighting is projected as follows:
Incremental Gross Revenue
Greens Fees (8,750 @$12)
Ancillary Net Revenue (8,750 @$1)
Total
Incremental Expenses
Additional Staffing (4 hours /day @$15 /hour)
Utilities (20 acres @$1 /acre /hour, 4 hours daily)
Debt Service
Total
Net Operating Income
Golf Retailer
$105,000
8.750
$113,750
$105,000
8.750
$113,750
$105,000
8.750
$113,750
$105,000
8.750
$113,750
- --
-
$21,000
$21,000
28,000
28,000
28,000
28,000
16.000
32.904
16.000
32.000
$44,000
$60,000
$65,000
$81,000
$69,750
$53,750
$48,750
$32,750
Occasionally, a golf course /driving range location also serves as a desirable location for a large golf retailer
like a Roger Dunn Golf Shop. The ability to demonstrate golf clubs on the golf practice range offers an
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additional benefit for the retailer. Successful golf retail shops operate at the Del Mar Golf Center in San Diego
County and The Islands Golf Center in Anaheim.
A representative of one of the country's leading golf retail outlets indicated that The Lakes location may offer
an opportunity for a major golf retailer. Most retailers desire a store with about 3,000 square feet of leasable
floor area. Minimum store annual gross sales volume ranges upward from $1.5 million ($500 per square foot
per year). Typically such stores operate with percentage rents, averaging about 5 percent of gross sales,
triple -net. At gross sales volume of $1.5 to $2 million, annual rent would be on the order of $75,000 to
$100,000, equal to $25 to $33 per square foot per year
Locating a major retailer at The Lakes would require major modification to the existing clubhouse and /or
construction of a new facility to house a 3,000 square foot retailer, provide a small snack bar, a small starter
house and administrative office space. In addition to the cost of creating the floor area required, locating a
major retailer would displace the net margin currently generated by pro shop sales, estimated at about
$50,000 per year (30 percent margin on $170,000 annual pro shop sales).
If the cost of modifying /adding space to facilitate locating a major golf retailer exceeded $600,000, the
additional net rent collected would be fully offset by the cost to amortize the capital cost and the loss of the
net contribution from existing pro shop sales.
Electric Golf Carts
A few 9 -hole executive length golf courses have a small inventory, typically 2 -4, of electric golf carts available
to golfers. However, such carts are primarily provided for senior golfers requiring mobility assistance. Most
short 9 -hole golf courses with carts report that utilization is relatively low. Thus, most of the revenue
generated from the rental of the carts is offset by the cost of their amortization and maintenance costs,
resulting in negligible net income. Moreover, additional up -front capital would be required for a minimal cart
path system and cart storage.
Expanded Instructional Programs
Under the leadership of teaching professional Josh Alpert, The Lakes at El Segundo has developed a very
strong junior golf program. The Junior Summer Camp has been a resounding success, introducing and
developing young golfers to the game, and generating a modest income flow for the golf course. There
appears to be an opportunity to expand junior golf programs at The Lakes through both offering several
camps during the non - summer months, and group instructional programs.
Heated Driving Range Tee Stations
Heating the lower tee line (29 tee stations) would provide a more desirable environment for range users
during cold periods, primarily in the evenings. The range currently generates gross revenue of about
$12,400 per tee station per year. It is estimated that heating the lower tee line would generate an additional
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$40,000 to $50,000 per year in gross revenue, with minimal associated expenses, thus increasing the gross
revenue per tee station from $12,400 to about $13,000 per year (5% increase).
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Direct Economics
The following section presents projections for the two basic scenarios - -(1) continuation of The Lakes golf
facility under its current configuration (golf course and range); and (2) development of a TopGolf complex
along with a similar standalone golf course.
Golf Course Economics
The golf complex is analyzed under both basic scenarios. The existing golf course scenario assumes the
golf course and driving range continue to operate under their current structure, with the facility owned by the
City and maintained, managed, and operated by a professional golf course management company on a fee -
for- service basis. The TopGolf scenario assumes the golf course is reconfigured as a standalone facility,
operated without a golf practice range. The golf course also is maintained, managed and operated by a
professional golf course management company.
The comparative analysis is based on the following general assumptions:
► The analysis period is 25 years, with no reversionary value assigned at the end of the analysis period.
► Capital improvements are implemented in a timely manner.
► The golf course would be lighted for night play under both scenarios.
► The lower level of the driving range is equipped with heaters under the existing golf course scenario.
► Junior golf camps, and other programs are extended from the Summer months to year -round
availability under both scenarios.
► Irrigation water is available from the West Basin Water District.
► The course continues to provide resident greens fees discounts.
► Revenues and expenses increase at a 2 percent average annual rate, unless otherwise noted. All
values shown in the documentation below are expressed in constant 2015 dollars.
Golf Course Revenues
Golf Course Play- -Both Scenarios:
Current 43,200
Projected* 50,000
* Assumes night lighting
Greens Fees (average revenue per paid round) - -Both Scenarios:
Current $15.95 per round
Projected $15.20 per round (reflects lower rate for night play)
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Practice Range Revenue -- Existing Course Scenario (with heated tee line):
Current $721,100 ($12,430 per tee)
Projected $754,000 ($13,000 per tee)
Pro Shop Retail Sales:
Current $3.80 per round
Projected -- Existing Course Scenario: $3,50 per round
Projected -- TopGolf Scenario: $1.50 per round
Food & Beverage Sales (excluding alcoholic beverages)
Current $6.65 per round
Projected -- Existing Course Scenario: $6.00 per round (reflects night lighting)
Projected -- TopGolf Scenario: $3.50 per round
Alcoholic Beverage - -Net Lease (10 %)
Current $0.17 per round
Projected -- Existing Course Scenario: $0.17 per round
Projected -- TopGolf Scenario: $0.10 per round
Lessons (assumes expanded year -round junior golfer programming)
Current $176,700 per year (includes range lessons)
Projected -- Existing Course Scenario: $225,000 per year (includes range lessons)
Projected -- TopGolf Scenario: $80,000 per year (30% reduction from current level)
Miscellaneous
Current
$0.10 per round
Projected -- Existing Course Scenario: $0.10 per round
Projected -- TopGolf Scenario: $0.10 per round
Cost of Sales (both scenarios)
Pro Shop Merchandise
Current
Projected (both scenarios)
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Current
Projected- Existing Course Scenario
Projected - TopGolf Scenario
Operating Expenses
Direct Economics
47% of F & B gross revenue (excluding alcohol)
47% of F & B gross revenue (excluding alcohol)
40% of F & B gross revenue (excluding alcohol)
Annual stable year operating expenses for each scenario are presented in Table VII -1, by major component.
The expenses are expressed in constant 2015 dollars. Projected expenses for the existing golf course
scenario approximate current levels, while projected expenses for the TopGolf scenario are based on the
standalone golf course, without the range operations.
Stable Year Net Operating Income
Stable year net operating income for the existing golf course /clubhouse and golf practice range, and
reconfigured golf course as a standalone facility is projected in Table VII -2. The values in the table are
expressed in constant 2015 dollars. As noted above, the revenue estimates (and operating expenses) reflect
a series of improvements including night lighting of the golf course, heating of the lower tee line of the
practice range, and expanded year -round junior golf programming.
The net income shown is on the course level, before deductions for several other overhead and "below the
line" items including City administrative charges, City insurance allocations, interest on General Fund debt,
and depreciation.
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Table V111-1: The Lakes
Course Maintenance
Projected Operating Expenses By Department-
Actual--2014 Projected- Exist Course
-($000)
Projected- Reconf i g ured
Payroll & Benefits
$220.5
$220.0
$220.0
Services & Supplies
112,6
115.0
115.0
Irrigation Water /Electricity (80 %)
121.0
150.0
140.0
Equipment Replacement Charge
$,Z
1Q 4
10.0
Subtotal
$462.8
$495.0
$485.0
Golf Operations
Payroll & Benefits (Pro Shop)
$44.1
$45,0
$55.0
Range Expenses /Utilities
147.6
$140.0
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Services & Supplies (Golf)
i4,$
12.Q
14..Q
Subtotal
$202.5
$197.0
$65.0
Lessons
$81.2
$120,0
$60.0
Food & Beverage
Payroll & Benefits
$158.5
$160.0
$75.0
Services & Supplies
4
44 4
Subtotal
$199.2
$200.0
$87.5
Clubhouse Undistributed
$74.2
$75.0
$38.0
General & Administrative
Payroll & Benefits
$143.1
$140.0
$140.0
Marketing & Promotion
17.5
20.0
15.0
Credit Card
35.8
36.0
20.0
Services & Supplies
76.7
75.0
60.0
Management Fee
96.0
96.0
84.0
SCE Right -of -Way Lease
41.$
42.0
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Subtotal
$410.9
$409.0
$352.0
Total
$1,430.8
$1,496.0
$1,087.5
Plus: City Administration
$130.2
$130.2
$130.2
Insurance & Bonds
119.6
4Q
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Adjusted Total
$1,680.6
$1,656,2
$1,237.7
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Table VII-2: The
Gross Revenue
Greens Fees
Range Revenue
Lakes Projected Net Operating Income
Projected
Standalone Actual Existing Coursel/ Reconfigured
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$689.2 $76010 $760.0
721.1 754.0 --
164.3 175.0 75.0
Pro Shop Sales
Food & Beverage
287.1
300.0
175.0
Alcoholic Beverage -Lease Payment
Lessons /Camps
7.2
8.5
5.0
176.7
225.0
80.0
Other /Miscellaneous
1,4
5.4
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Total
Less: Cost of Sales
$2,047.1
$2,227.5
$1,100,0
Pro Shop Sales
$126.5
$113.8
$48.8
Food & Beverage
134.7
141.0
Ma
Total
$261.2
$254.8
$118.8
Gross Profit
$1,785.9
$1,972.7
$981.2
Operating Expenses
Course Maintenance
$462.8
$495.0
$485.0
Golf Operations /Range
202.5
197.0
65.0
Lessons
81.2
120.0
60.0
Food & Beverage
199.2
200.0
87.5
Clubhouse Undistributed
74.2
75.0
38.0
General & Administrative
414.9
409.0 352.0
$1,496.0 $1,087.5
$476.7 i ($106.3)
Total
$1,430.8
$355.1
Net Operating Income -- Course Level
11 Projections reflect implementation of revenue enhancement measures.
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The TopGolf scenario is comprised of a new TopGolf facility and modified 9 -hole executive length golf course.
The economics of just the TopGolf component are shown below. The analysis is based on the following
general assumptions:
► The analysis period is for 25 years, plus one year construction period (assumes term extension option
exercised).
► The TopGolf rent is triple -net, with all expenses relating to the TopGolf facility (including the driving
range) the responsibility of the lessee.
► The golf course would continue to be owned by the City and operated on a fee - for - service
management contract basis.
► The existing clubhouse would be razed and replaced by a small starter operation /snack bar of
approximately 2,500 square feet.
► A number of the TopGolf driving range stations would be available at selected times at no cost for
junior golf programs.
► Teaching professionals would contract for range use directly with TopGolf.
The initial CenterCal/TopGolf proposal called for annual ground lease payments of $425,000, with a 10
percent escalation every five years.
Based on the revised proposal submitted by CenterCal/TopGolf, the following ground lease payments are
projected:
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Year AnnualRent Year AnnualRent
Construction $180,000 13 $625,100
1 525,000 14 625,100
2 535,500 15 625,100
3
4
546,200
16
687,600
687,600
557,100
17
5
568,300
18
687,600
6
568,300
19
687,600
7
568,300
20
687,600
8
568,300
21
756,400
9
568,300
22
756,400
10
568,300
23
756,400
11
12
625,100
625,100
24
756,400
25
756,400
Standalone Golf Practice Range
Net operating income projections for a standalone practice range at The Lakes are presented in Table VII -4.
As a standalone facility, the practice range would require its own administrative and operating overhead,
while under a combined golf course /driving range operation, these duties would be shared. For example, as
golf course and practice range standalone operations, each would require operations personnel and
management, whereas under a single operation, this redundancy would be eliminated.
Net operating income of a standalone practice range, expressed in constant 2015 dollars, is projected at
$394,000 per year. The net income is presented before before any City overhead, debt service, or
depreciation, and capital improvement reserves. In effect, the projections relate to a privately owned/
operated practice range.
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Revenue
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Annual rrr
Range Fees
Instruction (net)
Golf Repair Shop /Other (net)
Total Revenue
Operating Expenses
Salaries and Benefits
Golf Ball /Mat Replacement
Promotion & Advertising
Utilities & Water
Maintenance & Repair
Insurance
Property Taxes
$754
60
25
$839
$150
40
12
45
15
20
45
Services & Supplies
Management Fee
SCE Right -of -Way Lease
Total Expenses
Net Operating Income/
Before capital improvement replacement
20
90
$445
$394
reserve.
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Fisca mpact
Both the existing golf course and the TopGolf project would generate fiscal revenue to jurisdictions providing
services, including the City of El Segundo.
Revenue Sources
The principal fiscal components include the following:
Sales and Use Tax: The City receives 1 percent (out of 9.00 %) of taxable retail sales, including
merchandise and food and beverage purchases.
Utility Users Tax: The City imposes a 3 percent utility users tax on non - residential water, power and natural
gas consumption, and 2 percent on telephone charges.
Possessory Interest Property Tax: Lessees are subject to possessory interest property tax. The
possessory interest in land and improvements of leasehold property is assessed the 1 percent ad valorem
property tax, of which the City is allocated 6,4 percent.
Business License Fees: Entities doing business in the City of El Segundo are required to secure an annual
business license fee. There is a base rat of $99.66 for the first 10 employees and 5,000 square feet of
indoor covered space. In addition, employers are assessed $123.44 per employee (full time and part time)
over 10, plus $0.23 per square foot of indoor covered space. Note that, under the initial proposal, a credit
against the business license fee is applied, with the credit equal to 40% of the local 1 % sales and use tax
collected by the City. Under the revised proposal, the sales tax credit is waived.
Existing Golf Course Scenario
City Fiscal Revenue
Sales and Use Tax
Pro Shop Sales ($175,000 @1 percent) $1,750
Food & Beverage Sales ($300,000 @1 percent) 3,000
Alcohol Sales ($85,000 @1 percent) 850
Total Sales and Use Tax $5,600
Utility Users Tax- -None
Property /Possessory Interest Tax - -None
Business License Fees -- $1,580, fully offset by sale and use tax credit, yielding net revenue of zero.
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City Service Costs
Fsca mpact
The existing golf course receives police, fire and other City services. However, with the systems in -place
there is no marginal cost associated with the existing golf course operation.
TopGolf Scenario
City Fiscal Revenue
Sales and Use Tax
TopGolf Food & Beverage Sales ($10,562,000 @1 percent) $105,620
TopGolf Merchandise Sales ($197,000 @1 percent) 1,970
Golf Course Pro Shop Sales ($75,000 @1 percent 750
Golf Course Snack Bar Sales ($225,000 @1 percent) 2.250
Total Sales and Use Tax $110,590
Utility Users Tax
TopGolf ($682,000 utility costs @3 %; $24,000 telephone costs @ 2 %) $20,940
Golf Course - -None
Property /Possessory Interest Tax
Assessed Valuation
TopGolf Improvements
$25,000,000
Possessory Interest Land (8% cap)
6,560,000
Golf Course - -None
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Total
$31,560,000
Possessory Interest Tax @1 %- -City Share 6.4%
$20,200
Business License Fees
TopGolf
First 10 employees /5,000 sq. ft.
$99
Next 400 employees @ $123
49,200
Next 30,000 square feet @ $.23
6.900
Subtotal
$56,199
Sales Tax Credit (40% credit)'
-
Net Business License Fees
$56,199
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Golf Course - -None (fees offset by sales tax credit)
Fiscal Impact
11 TopGolf revised proposal waives the sales tax credit. Initial proposal includes sales tax credit, reducing the
net business license fees to $11,915.
City Service Costs
The TopGolf facility and reconfigured standalone golf course also will receive police, fire and other City
services. A report prepared by the City Police Department indicates that no additional resources will be
required. Similarly, the fire network which is in -place is capable of providing needed services. As such, there
are no marginal costs likely to be incurred as a result of the TopGolf project.
Comparative Fiscal Impact
The stable year net fiscal impact of the two scenarios are compared as follows:
Fiscal Revenue
Sales Tax
Utility Users Tax
Possessory Interest
Business License Fe
Total
Less: Fiscal Servic
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$110,590
$110,590
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20,940
20,940
Tax
es
e Costs
- --
20,200
20,200
56,199
$207,929
$207,929
- --
11,915
$5,600
$163,645
$163,6451
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Comparative Economics
Based on the analysis presented in the previous sections of the report, the overall comparative economics of
the two scenarios is projected.
Average Annual Impact
The analysis illustrates the differential between the annual average net operating contribution and the
associated costs for each scenario. Annual benefits consist of the direct golf course level economics,
CenterCal/TopGolf lease revenue, and fiscal revenue produced. Annual costs include Citywide
administrative /overhead expenses, the capital cost requirements, and fiscal service costs. The annual capital
costs is based on amortization of the discounted present value (at 4 percent) of the capital component over a
25 -year term at a 6 percent cost of capital.
The full comparative economics of the two scenarios, expressed on an annual basis in constant 2015
dollars, is presented in Table IX -1.
Present Value Comparison
While the average annual net benefit to the City provides one measure of the comparative economics of the
two scenarios, the most accurate measurement is the net present value of the 25 -year stream of revenues
and costs accruing to the City. Such an analysis takes into account the timing of the revenues and costs
associated with each scenario.
The 25 -year annual cash flow for each scenario is presented in Appendix A. Again, the golf course revenues,
expenses and capital costs are subject to a 2.0 percent average annual rate of increase. Within a 2 percent
inflation environment, an 8.0 percent present value discount rate is considered reasonable and appropriate in
measuring the present value of the cash flow stream.
The net present value of each scenario is compared in Table IX -2. Under the existing golf course scenario,
deducting the present value of the costs from the present value of the benefits yields a net present value of
$2.64 million, which compares with the TopGolf scenario at $2.92 million under the initial TopGolf proposal,
and $4.94 million under the revised proposal.
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Table IX-1: Stable Year Average
(thousands dollars)
Existing
Course
Annual Benefits
TopGolf
Initial
Proposal
Concept
Revised
...
Golf Complex Direct Net Contribution
$476.7
($106.3)
($106.3)
TopGolf Lease Revenue
- --
425.0
525.0
Fiscal Revenue
163.6
247.9
Total Benefits
$482.3
$482.3
$626.6
Annual Costs
Citywide Administrative /Overhead /Insurance
$160.0
$150.0
$150.0
Construction Impact
- --
21.1
21.1
Capital Cost - -Golf Course`
84.1
67.0
47.4
Capital Cost -- Clubhouse /Maintenance Facility'
17.1
-
Capital Cost -- Driving Range`
13.2
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Capital Cost -- Course Lighting'
38.7
38.7
15.6
Capital Cost -- Parking Lot"
6.4
- --
- --
Fiscal Service Costs
--
- --
--
Total Costs
$319.5
$276.8
$234.1
Net Annual Cost - Benefit
$162.8
$205.5
$392.5
Represents annual reserve amount necessary to fund capital improvement requirements.
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Table IX-2: Present Value of
Benefits
25-Year Net Benefits to City 000
Top Golf . -.
Proposal Existing initial _T Revised
Course .
Golf Complex Net Contribution
$6,041.7
($1,347.3)
($1,347.3)
TopGolf Lease Revenue
5,163.4
6,388.8
Fiscal Revenue
zu
2.074.0
2.634.9
Total Benefits
$6,112.7
$5,890.1
$7,676.4
Costs
Citywide Administrative /Overhead
$2,027.8
$1,901.1
$1,901.1
Capital Cost -- Construction Impact
250.0
250.0
Capital Cost - -Golf Course*
636.0
$400.1
$400.1
Capital Cost -- Clubhouse /Maintenance Facility
180.3
- -
-
Capital Cost -- Driving Range*
114.1
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Capital Cost -- Course Lighting*
458.3
416.7
185.2
Capital Cost -- Parking Lot*
56.5
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- --
Fiscal Service Costs
-
- -
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Total Costs
$3,473.0
$2,967.9
$2,736.4
Net Cost - Benefit
$2,639.7
$2,922.2
$4,940.0
* Present value of 25 -year stream,
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X. Valuation of Project Components
This section estimates the value of the project components as follows:
- Total integrated Golf Course and Practice Range
- Standalone Practice Range & Related Activity
- Standalone Golf Course /Clubhouse
Vauation
The market value of the components is estimated as a fee simple interest- -that is, the value the entity would
command on the open market rather than from the City perspective. As an enterprise fund, where the
objective is to breakeven, the entity has no economic value.
The value of these components is estimated based on the income approach to value. The cost or market
approaches are not considered in this valuation analysis. Direct capitalization of the stable year net operating
income is the basic methodology employed in the valuation analysis.
Net Operating Income
The value of the asset is estimated by capitalizing annual net operating income at an appropriate direct
capitalization rate. Net operating income is defined as earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and
amortization (EBITDA). Net operating income is equal to gross revenue less direct operating expenses,
management fees, and the Southern California Edison lease payment.
Based on estimates presented in Section VII (Direct Economics) of the report, Table X -1 presents stable year
net operating income for the existing golf course, standalone golf course and standalone driving range. Note
that the cost of the services currently provided by the City (administration and overhead) are incorporated in
the general and administrative expenses of the component being valued. That is, adjustments to general and
administrative expenses are applied to reflect the self- contained operation of the component.
In analyzing the economics of The Lakes golf course, the sum of the net operating income of each principal
component (golf course /clubhouse and practice range) is less than that of the combined operation as a
single entity. Specifically, as standalone facilities, each entity would require its own administrative and
operating overhead, while under a combined operation, these duties would be shared. For example, as
standalone operations, each would require operations personnel and management, whereas under a single
operation, this redundancy would be eliminated.
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Gross Revenue
Projected Net Operating Income ($000)1
Existing Course Standalone Course Standalone Range
Greens Fees
$760.0
$760.0
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Range Revenue
Pro Shop Sales
754.0
- --
$754.0
175.0
75.0
- --
Food & Beverage
300.0
175.0
- --
Alcoholic Beverage -Lease Payment
8.5
5.0
- --
Lessons /Camps
225.0
80.0
60.0
Other /Miscellaneous
Total
Ij -Less: Cost of Sales
$2,227.5
$1,100.0
$839.0
Pro Shop Sales
$113.8
$48.8
Food & Beverage
1414
Total
$254.8
$118.8
- --
Gross Profit
$1,972.7
$981.2
$839.0
Operating Expenses
Course Maintenance
$495.0
$485.0
--
Golf Operations /Range
197.0
65.0
-
Lessons
120.0
60.0
--
Food & Beverage
200.0
87.5
Clubhouse Undistributed
75.0
38.0
General & Administrative
459.02
392.02/
- --
Total
Net Operating Income
$1,546.0
$1,127.5
$445.0
$426.7
($146.3)
$394.0
11 Projections reflect implementation of revenue enhancement measures.
v Includes $50,000 to account for current City administrative services /overhead.
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Capitalization Rate
The income approach to value generally is regarded as the most reliable in valuing public and semiprivate
golf course properties. The value of golf courses which are operating efficiently and at stabilized play levels
typically is determined by capitalizing current annual net operating income at an appropriate rate. Applying a
direct capitalization rate yields the value of the property.
It is very difficult to establish market -based capitalization rates for golf properties for a variety of reasons.
One of the most significant factors is that very few golf courses are sold at a point of stabilized operation.
The actual capitalization rates observed on most golf course transactions, therefore, generally are very low,
typically in the 4 to 6 percent range. In many cases, the capitalization rate is lower, and many courses are
selling for significant amounts when operating at little more than a breakeven level. Capitalization rates for
California golf properties tend to be lower than observed in other markets nationally. This difference is
attributed to several factors including longer playing seasons (climate), population /market growth,
inexpensive maintenance labor, high barriers to entry, and higher construction costs.
While actual capitalization rates observed based on trailing 12 -month EBITDA are in the 4 to 6 percent range,
pro forma capitalization rates, based on buyer revenue /expense "expectations," buyers in the market are
seeking returns based on capitalization rates in the 8 -10 percent range, although the capitalization rate at the
time of the transaction often is well below this target return. The buyers believe, however, that through both
improvements in revenues and reductions in expenses, capitalization rates in the 8 -10 percent range will be
achieved within a short period of time. At stabilization, we believe a 8 percent direct capitalization rate is
reasonable for The Lakes at El Segundo.
Table X -2 presents the as -is valuation of The Lakes at El Segundo, as well as each of its two principal
components. As indicated, the direct capitalization rate is applied to "adjusted" net operating income. The
adjustment accounts for a capital improvement replacement reserve, reflecting the future anticipated needs
of the golf course (including night lighting).
As shown, the value of the existing golf complex is estimated at $3.71 million. There is no value assigned to
the golf course as a standalone facility, and the value of the standalone practice range is indicated at $4.55
million. That is, virtually all of the value of the combined complex is attributable to the golf practice range.
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Less: Allowance for Capital
Improvement Reserve
Adjusted Net Operating Income
Direct Capitalization Rate
Capitalized Value
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Other Issues
The following presents a discussion of other issues which may be considered, but have not been quantified,
in the comparative analysis.
Risk of Default
As with any ground lease, there is always the possibility of a default. According to City representatives, the
ground lease payment would not be subordinated, and thus the City would be in a first position regarding
encumbrances on the property. That is, the City would be entitled to their ground lease payment before debt
service, if any, on the facility.
A review of projections by TopGolf indicate a lease payment coverage ratio (annual net operating income to
ground lease payment) of nearly 10:1. This suggests that the risk of default on the ground lease payment is
relatively low.
Golf Course Design
Several conceptual golf course routing plans have been formulated relative to the reconfigured golf course.
These plans have been developed without the input of a qualified golf course architect. This analysis
assumes that the reconfigured golf course has at least equal length to the existing golf course, without any
safety concerns. It will be necessary for a golf course architect to prepare the routing plan for the
reconfigured golf course.
Economic Impact
As noted, annual spending at the TopGolf facility in El Segundo is projected at approximately $20 million.
This initial round of spending creates over 400 jobs (275 -300 full time equivalent), and over $8 million in
annual payroll. Subsequent rounds of re- spending the initial impact dollars will create additional spending,
payroll and employment (the multiplier effect). The Department of Commerce, Bureau of Economic Analysis
produces regional multipliers for major industry classifications. The overall gross multiplier for both
recreational activities and food and beverage establishments is in the range of 2.0 for Los Angeles County.
Applying this multiplier suggests the gross regional output associated with the TopGolf facility will be in the
range of $40 million annually, and account for nearly 600 jobs (FIFE) and over $15 million in annual payroll.
Again, this annual impact relates to the region, with the City of El Segundo capturing a portion of this impact.
Based on the City's residential population and economic base, El Segundo would likely capture a relatively
small portion of the overall impact, although even a small percentage potentially translates into a significant
level of local impact. In addition to the ongoing annual impact, there will be one -time construction impact
with the City of El Segundo again capturing a relatively small portion.
TopGolf has been well received in the market, with annual attendance estimated at approximately 500,000
patrons at other metropolitan locations similar to El Segundo. The TopGolf concept has received significant
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media coverage both inside and outside the golf industry. The profile of the facility also has been raised
through the many corporate outings and events hosted.
In addition to the impacts related to the "multiplier effect" of initial spending at the TopGolf facility, TopGolf
may play a part in stimulating interest in El Segundo as a business location. Clearly, there are numerous
factors which are evaluated in a major employer's site selection including area image, the residential location
of officers and employees, regional and local access, surrounding land uses, airport proximity, climate,
occupancy cost, local suppliers and services, and the like. It would appear that development of a TopGolf
would help in establishing the identity and image of the City of El Segundo, and represent a community
amenity which enhances the attractiveness of the City.
It is not possible to isolate the specific impact on business attraction stemming from locating a TopGolf
facility in El Segundo, and thus quantifying the impact would be extremely speculative, and clearly the impact
would vary by type of business.
Transient Occupancy Tax
The experience at some TopGolf locations -- primarily those where there are heavy concentrations of regional
and national headquarters companies - -is that some of the attendees at corporate events are from out -of-
town, and thus patronize local lodging establishments. Events account for about 20 -25 percent of TopGolf
total business activity, with corporate events representing about 25 -50 percent of events. With annual
attendance of about 500,000, corporate attendance at a TopGolf is in the range of 45,000 attendees. If 2 -3
percent of attendees are from out of the area, in the range of 1,000 -1,200 room nights would be generated,
producing about $15,000 annually in transient tax revenue, much of which would accrue to the City of El
Segundo.
Capital Improvement Replacement Reserve
As with all entertainment oriented facilities, there are periodic requirements for replacing and updating capital
components of the project. TopGolf's pro forma projections include a capital replacement reserve equal to
$400,000 per year. This annual amount represents about 2 percent of annual gross revenue, consistent with
industry standards for projects of this scale.
While TopGolf has provided an allowance for a capital improvement reserve, it may be in the City's best
interest to mandate funding the reserve annually at a rate of 2 percent of gross revenue. The proceeds
would be placed in a fund, and withdrawn for TopGolf project components at the mutual agreement of both
TopGolf and the City of El Segundo. This would ensure that capital improvements are completed on a timely
basis.
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Based on TopGolf pro forma projections, fiscal revenue accruing to the City is projected at about $165,000
per year. As this fiscal revenue is directly correlated with TopGolf's performance, it may be appropriate to
establish a guaranteed total fiscal revenue amount, with TopGolf funding any shortfall between the budgeted
and actual fiscal revenue generated.
Upside Participation
The agreement between CenterCal/TopGolf and the City of El Segundo calls for CenterCal to pay $525,000
in Year 1 fixed ground rent, with escalations scheduled over the full lease term. Clearly, the TopGolf concept
is unique, and there is limited long term performance history with the facility. Because of the degree of
uncertainty in TopGolf performance at The Lakes location, it may be appropriate to structure the ground
lease agreement with some City upside participation. One such structure would be to establish an annual
gross revenue threshold, with the City sharing in annual gross revenue which exceeds the threshold, For
example, the City might receive 3 to 5 percent of gross revenue which exceeds the budgeted amount.
TopGolf Reversionary Value
The TopGolf lease, assuming all of the six 5 -year options are exercised, extends for a total of 50 years. At
the conclusion of the 50 -year term, the improvements on the property revert to the City. At that point, the
rent for the facility would be based on land and improvements rather than land value alone. Although the
present value of this potential asset is 50 years in the future, the value is nonetheless substantial.
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Year
1
Table A-1:
Course
476,700
Existing .
5,600
of
- 160,000
- 545,000
.
- 222,700
2
486,234
5,712
- 163,200
-
328,746
3
495,959
5,826
- 166,464
335,321
4
505,878
5,943
- 169,793
342,027
5
515,995
6,062
- 173,189
- 386,000
- 37,132
6
526,315
6,183
- 176,653
-
355,845
7
536,842
6,307
- 180,186
362,962
8
547,578
6,433
- 183,790
370,221
9
558,530
6,561
- 187,466
377,626
10
569,701
6,693
- 191,215
- 385,000
178
11
581,095
6,826
- 195,039
392,882
12
592,717
6,963
- 198,940
-
400,740
13
604,571
7,102
- 202,919
408,754
14
616,662
7,244
- 206,977
-
416,929
15
628,996
7,389
- 211,117
- 1,251,000
- 825,732
16
641,575
7,537
- 215,339
433,773
17
654,407
7,688
- 219,646
442,449
18
667,495
7,841
- 224,039
451,298
19
680,845
7,998
- 228,519
460,324
20
694,462
8,158
- 233,090
- 490,000
- 20,470
21
708,351
8,321
- 237,752
-
478,921
22
722,518
8,488
- 242,507
488,499
23
736,969
8,657
- 247,357
498,269
24
751,708
8,831
- 252,304
-
508,235
25
766.742
9.007
- 257,350
518.399
Total
$15,268,844
$179,370
- $5,124,848
- $3,057,000
$7,266,366
NPVQ8%
$6,041,713
$70,975
- $2,027,846
- $1,445,160
$2,639,682
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Table A-2: TopGolf Scenario
TopGolf Fiscal
Benefits
$425,000 163,645
Initial Proposal--Summary
Course NOI
- 106,300
OH
- 150,000
Construction Cap Ex
- 270,000 - 635,000
Net CashFlow
- 572,654
2
$425,000
166,918
- 108,426
- 153,000
-
330,494
3
$425,000
170,256
- 110,595
- 156,060
328;605
4
$425,000
173,661
- 112,806
- 159,181
326,678
5
$425,000
177,135
- 115,063
- 162,365
324,712
6
467,500
180,677
- 117,364
- 165,612
365,207
7
467,500
184,291
- 119,711
- 168,924
-
363,162
8
467,500
187,977
- 122,105
- 172,303
-
361,077
9
467,500
191,736
- 124,547
- 175,749
-
358,949
10
467,500
195,571
- 127,038
- 179,264
356,779
11
514,250
199,482
- 129,579
- 182,849
401,315
12
514,250
203,472
- 132,171
- 186,506
399,057
13
514,250
207,541
- 134,814
- 190,236
396,754
14
514,250
211,692
- 137,510
- 194,041
-
394,405
15
514,250
215,926
- 140,261
- 197,922
- 559,000
- 166,991
16
565,675
220,245
- 143,066
- 201,880
-
440,990
17
565,675
565,675
565,675
565,675
622,250
622,250
622,250
622,250
224,650
- 145,927
- 205,918
-
438,497
435,954
18
229,143
- 148,846
- 210,036
19
233,725
- 151,823
- 214,237
433,360
20
21
238,400
- 154,859
- 218,522
- 245,000
185,714
484,591
243,168
- 157,956
- 222,892
22
248,031
- 161,115
- 227,350
-
481,838
23
252,992
- 164,338
- 231,897
479,030
24
258,052
- 167,624
- 236,535
-
476,166
25
622,250
263.213
- 170,977
_241.266
-
473,245
Total
$12,973,375
$5,241,598
- $3,404,821
- $4,804,545
- $270,000
- $1,439,000
$8,296,608
NPV Q 8%
$5,163,360
$2,074,043
- $1,347,250
- $1,901,105
- $250,000
- $816,747
$2,922,398
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Year TopGolf
1 $525,000
TopGolf
Fiscal
Benefits
207,900
. Revised Propo
Course NOI
- 106,300
Citywide OH
- 150,000
Construction
- 270,000
Cap Ex
- 385,000
Net CashFlow
- 282,654
2
535,500
212,058
- 108,426
- 153,000
-
461,394
3
546,200
216,299
- 110,595
- 156,060
-
470,613
4
557,100
220,625
- 112,806
- 159,181
-
480,002
5
568,300
225,038
- 115,063
- 162,365
-
489,661
6
568,300
229,538
- 117,364
- 165,612
-
488,089
7
568,300
234,129
- 119,711
- 168,924
-
486,486
8
568,300
238,812
- 122,105
- 172,303
-
484,850
9
568,300
243,588
- 124,547
- 175,749
-
483,182
10
568,300
248,460
- 127,038
- 179,264
-
481,481
11
625,100
253,429
- 129,579
- 182,849
-
536,545
12
625,100
258,498
- 132,171
- 186,506
-
534,775
13
625,100
263,667
- 134,814
- 190,236
532,969
14
625,100
268,941
- 137,510
- 194,041
-
531,127
15
625,100
274,320
- 140,261
- 197,922
- 559,000
- 29,752
16
687,600
279,806
- 143,066
- 201,880
589,832
17
687,600
285,402
- 145,927
- 205,918
-
587,877
18
687,600
291,110
- 148,846
- 210,036
585,883
19
687,600
296,932
- 151,823
- 214,237
-
583,850
20
687,600
302,871
- 154,859
- 218,522
- 245,000
336,775
21
756,400
308,928
- 157,956
- 222,892
648,459
22
756,400
315,107
- 161,115
- 227,350
646,301
23
756,400
321,409
- 164,338
- 231,897
644,100
24
756,400
327,837
- 167,624
- 236,535
641,854
25
756.400
334,394
-170,977
241,266
-
639,564
Total
$15,919,100
$6,659,099
- $3,404,821
- $4,804,545
- $270,000
- $1,189,000
$12,909,833
NPV Q 8%
$6,388,823
$2,634,932
- $1,347,250
- $1,901,105
- $250,000
- $585,266
$4,940,232
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April 28, 2015
Greg Carpenter
City Manager
City of El Segundo
Re: Top Golf El Segundo - Update Letter
Mr. Carpenter:
W. TOPOOLF
Top Golf has experienced substantial growth over the past three years and we are
excited to share the growth of our concept and brand with the City of El Segundo. We
have opened over 9 locations since 2012, hired over 3,000 employees, increased our
revenue over two hundred and sixty five million dollars and have secured strategic
partnerships with the Golf Channel, Golf Digest and MGM Resorts International. In
addition to our growth, we have increased the overall quality of our facilities, made our
operations more efficient to maximize revenue and have learned many lessons
throughout the process. This letter is to officially serve as an amended offer on behalf
of Topgolf International and ES Centercal, LLC, coming out of the recent EDAC
meeting. The EDAC meeting included a presentation from Gene Krekorian of Pro
Forma Advisors, which was a comprehensive economic overview and comparison
between the most recent Topgolf/ Centercal Proposal versus the City maintaining the
Lakes at El Segundo facility going forward. Detailed below are the proposed terms to
modify the ground lease agreement approved by the City of El Segundo City Council
on November 5, 2013:
1. Annual ground lease rent to the City of El Segundo will increase by $100,000 to
$525,000. Also the ground rent will escalate 2% per year up until year 5, thereafter
the rent will escalate at 10% every five years thereafter
WE
2. Topgolf to provide a $400,000 cash donation towards lighting on the golf course.
The desire for lighting on the course has been mentioned by multiple members of
Council, and throughout the discussions during this process. This is the first time
that Topgolf has invested directly into an investment that was outside of our
demised premises. However, we feel the synergy with our facility will provide a
substantial increase in the rounds played and provide new revenue to the City. The
City of Woodale experienced an 11 -20% increase over a five year period without
lights on their golf course and we anticipate a stronger impact in Southern CA with
lights.
3. Topgolf will offer a three percent (3 %) participation on gross receipts of
beverages sales beginning in Year 3 of the operating period. This provides an
additional revenue source for the City on an ongoing basis, while allowing
Topgolf time to ramp up its brand and business in El Segundo.
4. Topgolf will make the offer to hire up to two golf professionals full time during
the construction period to support the junior programs currently at the Lakes at
El Segundo. A lot of positive momentum has been created over the years and we
fully support the junior programs and want to ensure the professionals involved
continue to grow the academy. This would allow the professionals to "remain
whole" during the downtime, as well as allow them to maintain and grow the
program. Appropriate employment and wage documentation will be required as
part of this process. This offer is in addition to Topgolf s existing commitments
under the Shared Principals Agreement in regards to the existing PGA Pros who
serve as independent contractors.
5. Topgolf USA El Segundo LLC, a wholly owned subsidiary of Topgolf
International, would be the subtenant on the sublease to ES Centercal, and
replace the existing REIT financing partner, 30 West Pershing LLC. Topgolf
would look to "self- fund" this development and would not require an outside
financial partner. This will alleviate the multi-party issues associated to sub
ground lease agreements.
6. Topgolf will waive the sales tax credit on the business license tax that is available
per city code. This will provide an additional revenue source to the City on an
ongoing basis (see Proforma Advisors analysis for potential revenue impacts)
7. Topgolf to provide direct marketing support for the golf course. The fact that The
Lakes has less rounds played on an annual basis than our neighboring course in
Wood Dale, IL, which only has a 7 month season, demonstrates that there is
meaningful upside. This would be powerful as explained below, given the
number of actual people reached. This would include:
a. Digital
i. Promotions/ offers to our database of Topgolf customers. If El
Segundo is in line with our other facilities, this means that by the end
of the first 12 months of operation, we will have a database of over
Me
100,000 unique individuals. The great news about this is that all of
these individuals would have been to the location, and would have
seen the golf course.
ii. Promotions/ offers via our social media pages, most notably
Facebook and Twitter. Similar to above, we would expect our El
Segundo location to have over 15,000 facebook followers by the end
of the first 12 months.
b. On Site
i. Lobby promotions (promote the course /full size rendering/ greens
fees sign ups). This is a high traffic, high visibility area.
ii. In Bay promotions (in menu and check promotional slips and having
our bay hosts actively alert guests to them)
c. Media
i. Topgolf typically receives 15 -20 media write -ups, including local
news coverage, when we open a new location. These news coverages
would be positioned to show footage of the Lakes Golf Course as
well, and trumpet the reasons why it's a great golf course for families,
aspiring golfers, young golfers, etc.
d. Charity Golf Events
i. Topgolf and The Lakes Golf Course would be the ultimate Charity
Golf Event! It provides the best of both worlds: the chance to get out
on a golf course, but on an expedited time schedule, with full service
food, beverage, and entertainment, and you don't have to be a golfer.
The number of group /charity events that utilize The Lakes Golf
Course would be dramatically increased.
ii. This also would help target the off peak hours during the week,
when there is abundant capacity on the course.
We look to the City Council to provide final direction on our proposal as we are now on
our third year of discussions for Top Golf partnering with the City of El Segundo. We
truly appreciate the significant work that the local community stakeholders have put in,
the hard work from the city staff and the time and patience from the city council in
working through the trials and tribulations since early 2012. If these terms are acceptable
to the City and Council and a revised ground lease agreement is brought back to council
for approval, we will execute the approved ground lease within 30 days of city council
approval.
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Sincerely,
TOPGOLF INTERNATIONAL Inc.
a�
By:
Randy Starr
Chief Development Officer/ Chief Operating Officer
CENTERCAL PROPERTIES, L.L.C.
By: "r
Rupesh Bhakta
Vice President of Acquisitions & Development
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EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATE: November 5, 2013
AGENDA STATEMENT AGENDA HEADING: New Business
AGENDA DESCRIPTION:
Consideration and possible action to authorize the Mayor to execute a letter in response to a
"cease and desist" letters received on October 1, 2013 and October 17, 2013 from Debra Geist
alleging various violations of the Ralph M. Brown Act relating to City's negotiations to lease out
a portion of "the Lakes" golf course. (Fiscal Impact: None)
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION:
1. Receive and file the letters dated October 1, 2013 and October 15, 2013 alleging
various violations of the Ralph M. Brown Act;
2. Authorize the Mayor to execute the draft response letter;
3. Take such additional, related, action that may be desirable.
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS:
1. Letter dated October 15, 2013 (received October 17, 2013);
2. Draft response letter.
FISCAL IMPACT: N/A
Amount Budgeted: N/A
Additional Appropriation: N/A
Account Number(s): N/A
ORIGINATED BY: Mark D. Hensley, City Attorney
Karl H. Berger, Assistant Cit,a�
BACKGROUND AND DISCUSSION:
On October 1, 2013 and October 17, 2013, the City Clerk's office received letters alleging that
the City Council violated various provisions of the Ralph M. Brown Act when it considered the
future of "the Lakes" municipal golf course (see attached Exhibit A — the letters are identical
except for with respect to the dates set forth on the letters). These are referred to as the "October
2013 Letters."
As the City Council is aware — and is quite public — the City was approached by two private
companies in 2012 regarding a proposal for the Lakes municipal golf course. In general, the
proposal is for Centercal, LLC to make various improvements to the golf course and the driving
range; for Top Golf to operate the golf course; and for the City to receive a significant increase in
rent over a period of potentially fifty years. The details of this deal is set forth in the due
diligence and lease agreement that is being considered by the City Council as a separate agenda-
item for November 5, 2013.
Since first being approached by these companies, the City Council undertook a number of
actions to not only negotiate potential deal points to implement a proposal (as set forth in the 17
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draft lease agreement), but also to solicit public input and dialogue regarding the desirability of
undertaking such an arrangement. Such activities include, without limitation:
• Public meetings by the City Council and Golf Course Subcommittee in August 2012
regarding the Lakes including a Powerpoint presentation regarding the proposal and
direction from the City Council to seek public input.
Meetings in September 2012 between City staff and various community organizations
including the El Segundo Chamber of Commerce and Kiwanis Club.
+ Multiple meetings before the City's Recreation and Parks Commission in September and
December 2012.
* A presentation to the El Segundo Planning Commission on October 11, 2012.
• Posting the Powerpoint® presentation, draft schematics, and other matters on the City's
website (clse } LPtl (lo.orgljtcw;;ltli.,;I)P;t,. nc%vs.asp*?NcNvsll)-== 114s�t'C I arged i)- I_).
• Posting all disclosable public communications regarding the Lakes matter on the City's
website (N ww.elsegtat3do.orl-�l del-iis /cityclerkldocLlinents.M).
Moreover, these proposals were widely publicized in the media and on various social networks
(e.g., Facebook). And, as a result, there was significant public participation in the process
including regular public comment during City Council meetings.
The October 2013 Letters do not acknowledge the City Council's effort to solicit public input
regarding the Lakes or the widespread public interest in the subject. Rather, the October 2013
Letters allege that the City Council violated the Brown Act when it discussed the matter in
closed session on several occasions in 2012 and 2013.
As you are aware, the California Legislature enacted the Ralph M. Brown Act (Government
Code' §§ 54950 - 54963) in 1953. The Legislature adopted the Brown Act to ensure that
deliberations and actions of local public agencies are performed at meetings open to the public
and free from any veil of secrecy.2 To further this overall goal, the Brown Act requires that the
City's meetings be properly noticed and generally open to the public.
There are certain exceptions to the general requirement that all meetings be held in public. These
are referred to as "closed session" matters. One of these is the ability for the City Council to
meet
"with its negotiator prior to the purchase, sale, exchange, or lease of real
property by or for the local agency to grant authority to its negotiator
regarding the price and terms of payment for the purchase, sale,
exchange, or lease. "3
' Further references to an unspecified code are to the Government Code.
z § 54950.
3 § 54956.8 (emphasis added).
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The October 2013 Letters makes various complaints regarding the City Council exercising its
ability to discuss price and terms of leasing the Lakes during closed session. In summary, these
allegations are: (1) failure to appoint real property negotiators in open session as required by the
Brown Act; (2) incorrect agenda descriptions as to closed session items; and (3) discussing items
in closed session beyond the scope of what the Brown Act allows.
The October 2013 Letters is the first step needed to file a lawsuit against the City for alleged
violations of the Brown Act. In sum, the law' requires a persons seeking to enforce the Brown
Act to first send a "cease and desist" letter to a public agency within nine months of the alleged
violations before filing a lawsuit. Upon receiving a "cease and desist" letter, the public agency
has thirty days within which to consider the matter and, if it chooses, respond with "with an
unconditional commitment to cease, desist from, and not repeat the past action that is alleged to
violate" the Brown Act.' Such a response must be approved by the legislative body in open
session and be substantially in a form required by law.7 If the legislative body opts to undertake
such a response, it removes the ability of a person to file a lawsuit.8
As noted more completely in the draft letter attached to this staff report, several of the alleged
violations occurred more than nine months ago and are therefore time - barred from litigation.
Moreover, all of the closed session agenda descriptions correctly identified the City's real
property negotiators and described what was being discussed. Most importantly, however, the
City Council has not yet committed to taking any action — the draft lease agreement properly
contemplated during closed session is a separate agenda item for this meeting. And, as set forth
in that draft agreement, there are multiple matters that must be resolved — in open session —
before the City (or any other parry) is obligated to undertake any real property transaction.
However, in order to avoid potentially unnecessary and costly litigation, it is recommended that
the City Council authorize the Mayor to execute the draft letter attached to this staff report
(Exhibit B). As may be read, the draft letter constitutes the City Council's "unconditional
commitment" not to undertake the actions identified by the October 2013 Letters. Under the
Brown Act it is specifically recognized that sending this type of response is not an admission of
guilt and it cannot be used against the City in any future legal proceedings. Given that this
matter, as described above, has been a very public process and since the draft agreement is on the
agenda for public consideration by the Council, it seems very prudent to simply agree, without
admitting fault or that such occurred, to not undertake any further alleged action that violates the
Brown Act. This will ensure that the City avoids the need to defend against a lawsuit alleging
that the City Council violated the Brown Act.
4 § 54960.2.
s The City Council may also provide such a response after thirty days, and even during litigation, which would cause
a lawsuit to be dismissed. However, the court could under such circumstances award attorneys fees and costs (§
54960.2(b)).
6 § 54960.2(c).
7 Id.
S Id.
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Exhibit A
October 1, 2013 and October 15, 2013 Letters
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DECEIVED /(!)- /- /3
Ci y CLERK'S - IFFICECity Wriagar's OR*)�
October 1, 2013
OCT 12013
Via Personal Delivery
Hon. Bill Fisher, Mayor RECEIVED
Mr. Carl Jacobson, Mayor Pro Tern
Ms. Suzanne Fuentes
Mr. Dave Atkinson
Ms. Marie Fellhauer
City Council
City of El Segundo
350 Main Street,
El Segundo, CA 90245
Re: Demand to Cease and Desist from Practices Violating the Ralph M. Brown Act
Mr. Fisher and Members of the El Segundo City Council:
This notice is to caution you that the El Segundo City Council (the "ESCC ") has violated the Ralph M. Brown
Act (California Government Code Sec. 54050 et.seq.), which mandates open and publicized meetings of
local government at which the public may be present and comment on relevant matters. ESCC is abusing
the "safe harbor" provisions of Government Code Section 54956.8, which allow a limited exception to the
general mandate of open meetings only "to grant authority to its negotiator regarding the price and terms of
payment for... (a real property lease)." The specific violations are as follows:
1. Conducting Closed Sessions On The Proposed Lease of The Lakes Prior to a Public Hearing
On three separate occasions, June 19, 2012, June 25, 2012 and June 17, 2012, the ESCC conducted
closed sessions for the stated purpose of discussions with Greg Carpenter, City Manager, concerning The
Lakes, a municipal golf course owned by the City of El Segundo. Although the stated purpose of such
meetings, as noted on the relevant Agendas, was "discussion with Real Property Negotlator", ESCC had not
yet conducted a public session as required by Government Code Section 54956.8 as follows:
However, prior to the closed session, the legislative body of the local agency shall hold an open
and public session in which it identifies the real property—which the negotiations may concern and
the person or persons with whom its negotiator may negotiate.
Additionally, the relevant Agendas fail to Identify the persons or entities Mr. Carpenter would negotiate with.
These meetings patently fall outside the "safe harbor" and are illegal.
2. Conducting Closed Sessions with Top Golf on Related Issues
On two separate occasions, February 5, 2013, February 19, 2013, the ESCC conducted closed sessions
with Mr. Carpenter relating to Top Golf and Centercal Properties as "negotiating parties." However, the
proposed lease is with Centercal only. The City of El Segundo will have no contractual privily with Top Golf,
who will sublet from Centercal to operate a golf entertainment business at The Lakes. ESCC was not
negotiating a real property lease with Top Golf but rather consulting with Top Golf regarding lease issues.
The Brown Act mandates that ESCC conduct any such consultations in public meeting because the "safe
harbor" provision pertains only to the proposed lessee on price and terms of payment. Consultations with
other parties on "relat ed issues " or "background issues" are outside the scope of the exception. See,
Shapiro y._Ci!y Council of San Diega, 96 Cal. App. 4' 904 (2002).
3. Conducting Serial Closed Sessions on Matters Outside Payment and Terms of Payment
On eight separate occasions, February 5, 2013, February 19, 2013, May 7, 2013, August 6, 2013, August
20, 2013, September 3, 2013, September 17, 2013, and October 1, 2013, the ESCC conducted closed
sessions with Mr. Carpenter relating to the lease with Centercal Properties as the negotiating party. The
number of closed sessions alone is excessive and proves that the ESCC has trespassed beyond the "safe
harbor" of price and terms of payment. This situation is analogous to Shapiro v. City_Councii of San Dleoo,
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96 Cal. App. 4h 904 (2002), where the Court of Appeal held that the San Diego Council had violated the
Brown Act in including discussion of a variety of "related issues" In a series of closed session held to consult
with its agent in real property negotiations concerning a large redevelopment project to create a new
baseball park. The Fourth District faulted the San Diego Council's expansive Interpretation of the "safe
harbor" as follows:
We believe the City Council's view that no detailed disclosures should be required before closed
sessions may be held to discuss a complex overall real estate based transaction is Inconsistent
with the express statutory requirements of section 64946.8
The Fourth District stressed that the "safe harbor" must be narrowly and not expansively construed as
follows:
If we were to accept the City's Interpretation of the Brown Act in this respect, we would be turning
the Brown Act on its head, by narrowly construing the open meeting requirements and broadly
construing the statutory exceptions to it. That would be Incorrect. We do not denigrate the
Important consideration of confidentiality in negotiations. However, we believe that In this case, the
City Council Is attempting to use the Brown Act as a shield against public disclosure of its
consideration of important public policy Issues, of the type that are Inevitably raised whenever such
a larger public redevelopment real estate based transaction is contemplated. The Important policy
consideration of the Brown Act, however, must be enforced, even where particular transactions do
not fit neatly within its statutory categories.
Id. at 924. Here, as in Shapiro, ESCC is using closed sessions to shield Important development
considerations from public view. The sheer number of closed sessions, In contrast to the single open
session on the proposed lease, proves that ESCC is shirking Its duty to conduct open sessions on matters of
public Interest that will substantially impact The Lakes future. Indeed, ESCC has disclosed relatively nothing
in open sessions regarding its relationship with Centercal, Centercal's relationship with Top Golf, proposed
physical changes to the golf course, proposed physical changes to the driving range, price Increases, public
programs, changes to the liquor license and more. Members of the public are demanding to be heard on
these issues but have been relegated to bystanders in a closed process zealously guarded by ESCC
against its public responsibilities under the Brown Act.
4. Substantively Misleading Agenda Description
On August 21, 2012, the ESCC conducted a single public session on the proposed lease of The Lakes
which generally describes the Agenda as a direction to staff as follows:
Consideration and possible action to direct staff to take steps necessary to seek input from various
City Committees regarding a potential agreement with Centercal Properties, LLC for enhancing the
driving range and dining facilities at The Lakes Golf Course which would be operated by Top Coif.
The agreement would be negotiated by the City Manager and Clty Attorney and presented for
review and potential approval by the City Council at a future date.
This description is inaccurate because it states that the ESCC was to direct staff regarding future action
when, in fact, the ESCC contemplated and took immediate action to direct Mr. Carpenter to enter into
negotiations with Centercal regarding a lease of The Lakes. llllhRe the Brown Act requirements for agenda
item descriptions are quite lenient, this Item just falls to describe the action taken by ESCC to immediately
enter into a proposed tease. R's just wrong. The significance of the misdescrlption is magnified by the fact
that this was the only open discussion on the proposed lease and therefore, it was imperative that the ESCC
accurately convey notice to the public of what ESCC intended to do. Without such clear notice, those
members of the public who might well have attended the meeting to address a proposed decision
immediately to proceed with lease negotiations were misled into believing that there would be adequate
opportunities to do so later, at meetings of either the "City Committees," the City Council or both. The ESCC
failed its duties under the Brown Act and should be enjoined from proceeding further absent a material cure.
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The El Segundo City Council has thirty days from receipt of this letter to provide me with an unconditional
commitment to cease, des#st from, and not repeat the practices noted above, compliant with Government
Code Section 54960.2, subdivision (c). Its failure to do so will entitle me to file an aetlon for dederetwy
judgment and injUnclive relief and for attorney's fees and costs.
Respectfully.
0-,e
Debra V. Qetst
(310) 489 7751
cttegeist @verlaon.net
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October 15, 2013
Via U.S. Mail
Tracy Sherrill Weaver
City Clerk
City of El Segundo
350 Main Street,
El Segundo, CA 90245
Hon. Bill Fisher, Mayor
Mr. Cart Jacobson, Mayor Pro Tem
Ms. Suzanne Fuentes
Mr. Dave Atkinson
Ms. Marie Fellhauer
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Re: Demand to Cease and Desist from Practices Violating the Ralph M. Brown Act
Mr. Fisher and Members of the El Segundo City Council:
This notice Is to caution you that the El Segundo City Council (the "ESCC ") has violated the Ralph M. Brown
Act (California Government Code Sec. 54050 et.seq.), which mandates open and publicized meetings of
local government at which the public may be present and comment on relevant matters. ESCC Is abusing
the "safe harbor" provisions of Government Code Section 54956.8, which allow a limited exception to the
genera( mandate of open meetings only "to grant authority to its negotiator regarding the price and terms of
payment for... (a real property lease)." The specific violations are as follows:
1. Conducting Closed Sessions On The Proposed Lease of The Lakes Prior to a Public Hearing
On three separate occasions, June 19, 2012, June 25, 2012 and July 17, 2012, the ESCC conducted dosed
sessions for the stated purpose of discussions with Greg Carpenter, City Manager, concerning The Lakes, a
municlpal golf course owned by the City of El Segundo. Although the stated purpose of such meetings, as
noted on the relevant Agendas, was "discussion with Real Property (negotiator", ESCC had not yet
conducted a public session as required by Government Code Section 54955.8 as follows:
However, prior to the closed session, the legislative body of the local agency shall hold an open
and public session In which It identifies the rest property ... which the negotiations may concern and
the person or persons with whom its negotiator may negotiate.
Addltionally, the relevant Agendas fail to identify the persons or entitles Mr. Carpenter would negotiate with.
These meetings patently fall outside the "safe harbor" and are Illegal.
2. Conducting Closed Sessions with Top Golf on Related Issues
On two separate occasions, February 5, 2013, February 19, 2013, the ESCC conducted closed sessions
with Mr. Carpenter relating to Top Golf and Centercal Properties as "negotiating parties." However, the
proposed lease is with Centercal only. The City of El Segundo will have no contractual privity with Top Golf,
who will sublet from Centercal to operate a golf entertainment business at The Lakes. ESCC was not
negotiating a real property lease with Top Golf but rather consultinfl with Top Golf regarding lease issues.
The Brown Act mandates that ESCC conduct any such consultations in public meeting because the "safe
harbor" provision pertains only to the proposed lessee on price and terms of payment. Consultations with
other parties on "related issues" or "background Issues' are outside the scope of the exception. See,
Shapiro v. City Council of Sart Diego, 96 Cal. App. 4°N 904 (2002).
3. Conducting Serial Closed Sessions on Matters Outside Payment and Terms of Payment
On eight separate occasions, February 5, 2013, February 19, 2013, May 7, 2013, August 6, 2013, August
20, 2013, September 3, 2013, September 17, 2013, and October 1, 2013, the ESCC conducted closed
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sessions with Mr. Carpenter relating to the lease with Centercal Properties as the negotiating party. The
number of closed sessions alone is excessive and proves that the ESCC has trespassed beyond the "safe
harbor" of pride and terms of payment. This situation is analogous to Shapiro v. City_ C_vuncil of_San Dieu,
96 CAI, App. 4 "` 904 (2002), where the Court of Appeal held that the San Diego Council had violated the
Brown Act in including discussion of a variety of 'related Issues" in a series of closed session held to consult
with its agent in real property negotiations concerning a large redevelopment project to create a new
baseball park. The Fourth District Nutted the San Diego Council's expansive interpretation of the "safe
harbor' as follows:
We believe the City Council's view that no detailed disclosures should be required before closed
sessions may be held to discuss a complex overall real estate based transaction Is inconsistent
with the express statutory requirements of section 54946.8
The Fourth District stressed that the "safe harbor" must be narrowly and not expansively construed as
follows:
if we were to accept the City's interpretation of the Brown Act in this respect, we would be turning
the Brown Act on its head, by narrowly construing the open meeting requirements and broadly
construing the statutory exceptions to it. That would be incorrect. We do not denigrate the
important consideration of confidentiality In negotiations. However, we believe that in this case, the
City Councll is attempling to use the Brown Act as a shield against public disclosure of its
consideration of Important public policy Issues, of the type that are Inevitably raised whenever such
a large public redevelopment real estate based transaction Is contemplated. The Important policy
consideration of the Brown Act„ however, must be enforced, even where particular transactions do
not fit neatly within its statutory categories.
Id. at 924. Here, as In Shapiro, ESCC is using closed sessions to shield important development
considerations from public view. _ The sheer number of closed sessions, In contrast to the single open
session on the proposed lease, proves that ESCC is shirking its duty to conduct open sessions on matters of
public interest that will substantially Impact The Lakes future. Indeed, ESCC has disclosed relatively nothing
In open sessions regarding Its relationship with Centercal, Centercal's relationship with Top Golf, proposed
physical changes to the golf course, proposed physical changes to the driving range, price increases, public
programs, changes to the liquor license and more. Members of the public are demanding to be heard on
these Issues but have been relegated to bystanders In a closed process zealously guarded by ESCC
against Its public responsibilities under the Brown Act,
4. Substantively Misleading Agenda Description
On August 21, 2012, the ESCC conducted a single public session on the proposed lease of The Lakes
which generally describes the Agenda as a direction to staff as follows:
Consideration and possible action to direct staff to take steps necessary to seek input from various
City Committees regarding a potential agreement with Centercal Properties, LLC for enhancing the
driving range and dining facilities at The Lakes Golf Course which would be operated by Top Golf.
The agreement would be negotirated by the City Manager and City Attorney and presented for
review and potential approval by the City Council at a future date.
This description Is inaccurate because it states that this ESCC was to direct staff regarding future action
when, in fact, the ESCC contemplated and took immediate action to direct Mr. Carpenter to enter into
negotiations with Centercal regarding a lease of The Lakes. While the Brown Act requirements for agenda
Item descriptions are quite lenient, this item just fails to describe the action taken by ESCC to immediately
enter Into a proposed lease. Irs just wrong. The significance of the misdescription is magnified by the fact
that this was the only open discussion on the proposed lease and therefore, it was Imperative that the ESCC
accurately convey notice to the public of what ESCC Intended to do. Without such clear notice, those
members of the public who might well have attended the meeting to address a proposed decision
immediately to proceed with lease negotiations were misled into believing that there would be adequate
opportunities to do so later, at meetings of either the "City Committees," the City Council or both. The ESCC
failed Its duties under the Brown Act and should be enjoined from proceeding further absent a material cure.
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The El Segundo City Council has thirty days from recelpt of this letter to provide me with an unconditional
commitmant to cease, desist ffom, and not repeat the practices noted above, compliant with Government
Code Section 549602, subdivision (c). Re failure to do so will entitle me to MI an action for declaratory
judgment and Injunctive relief and for attorney's fees and costs:
Res Ily,
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Debra V. Geist
(310) 489 7751
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Exhibit B
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October 30, 2013
Elected Officials:
Bill Fisher,
Mayor
Debra V. Geist
Carl Jacobson,
Mayor Pro Tam
121 16th St
Suzanne Fuentes,
Council mber
Manhattan Beach CA 90266
Dave Atkinson,
Council Member
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Matte Fellhauor,
Council r
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Re: Letter dated October 15, 2013
City Clerk
Dear Ms. Geist:
Appointed Officials:
GregCarpenfsr,
Thank you for your letter dated October 15, 2013 (received by the City on
". Hensley,
Mark t Hensley,
October 17, 2013). As you are aware, that letter (the "October 15th Letter ")
Cristo Binder,
alleges that the City Council violated the Ralph M. Brown Act and
Cl(vTreasurer
constitutes a "cease and desist" letter in accordance with Government Code
§ 54960.2.
Department Directors:
Deborah Cullen,
Specifically, the October 1 5th letter accuses the City Council of violating the
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Brown Act on the following dates: June 19, 2012; June 25, 2012; July 17,
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2012; August 21, 2012; February 5, 2013; February 19, 2013; May 7, 2013;
Fire Chief
Debra Brighton,
August 6, 2013; August 20, 2013; September 3, 2013;
Sam Lee,
September 17, 2013; and October 1, 2013. In sum, the October 15th letter
Buildings and
alleges that the City Council's actions relating to the municipal golf course
Mitch Tavars,
Police Chief
known as "the Lakes" violated the Brown Act as follows: (1) failure to
Stephanie Kafsou leas,
Public Works
appoint real property negotiators in open session; (2) incorrect agenda
Robert Cummings,
Recreation& Parks
descriptions as to closed session items; and (3) discussing items in closed
session beyond the scope of statutory authority. In short, the City Council
disagrees with the October 15th letter for several different reasons.
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First, as to alleged violations occurring in 2012, these matters are time -
barred pursuant to Government Code § 54960.2(a)(2). That section requires
actions to be undertaken within nine months of the alleged violation.
Second, (as stated in the October 15th letter at p.2) the City Council (at the
latest) did appoint real property negotiators in open session on August 21,
2012 pursuant to Agenda Item No. F9:
"Direct the City Manager and City Attorney to negotiate terms
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of a [sic] agreement with Centercal Properties, LLC for a new
TopGolf facility to be located at The Lakes in place of the existing
driving range."
Moreover, the City Manager was identified on every agenda as the property negotiator
for these negotiations. The City Manager has general authority pursuant to El Segundo
Municipal Code § 1 -5A -7 to "exercise general supervision over all public buildings,
public parks and all other public property which is under the control and jurisdiction of
the city council." The City Council believes this would include (at a minimum) initial
negotiations regarding potentially leasing the Lakes. As previously noted, however,
these matters are time barred in any event.
Third, as explained below, it is plain that the City Council's considerations regarding the
Lakes were (and are) quite public. Even a cursory glance at the City's webpage, staff`
reports, and other public outreach documents demonstrate that the City Council sought
(and continues to seek) public input regarding what should happen with the municipal
golf course. Allegations, therefore, that the City Council was misleading or has
somehow attempted to avoid transparency as to the Lakes matter cannot be reconciled
with the City's efforts at encouraging public discourse regarding'this important matter.
As you know, the City Council is considering whether to lease a portion of the Lakes
municipal golf course to a private company or companies. As part of this process, the
City is engaged in an extensive public outreach program seeking public participation.
Among other things, the City undertook the following actions:
• August 21, 2012: the City Council heard a presentation regarding the Lakes
during open session and then directed the City Manager, or designee, to seek
public input regarding a potential agreement with Centercal and Top Golf.
• August 29, 2012: the City Council's Golf Course Subcommittee met in public to
discuss the matter.
• September 13, 2012: City staff made a presentation to the El Segundo Chamber
of Commerce.
September 18, 2012: City staff met at the El Segundo Public Library with golf
industry stakeholders.
• September 19, 2012: City staff made a presentation to the City's Recreation and
Parks Commission during its regular meeting.
• September 25, 2012: City staff made a presentation to the Kiwanis Club.
• October 3, 2012: City staff provided a progress update to the City Council's Golf
Course Subcommittee.
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* October 4, 2012: City staff made a presentation at the Rotary Club meeting
* October 11, 2012: a presentation regarding the matter was made to the City's
Planning Commission during its regular meeting.
• October 11, 2012: City staff made a presentation to the City's Economic
Development Advisory Council.
* November 18, 2012: the El Segundo Chamber of Commerce voted to
endorse /support the Top Golf matter.
• December 5, 2012: the City Council's Golf Course Subcommittee reviewed the
matter.
December 19, 2012: the Recreation and Parks Commission reviewed the
findings and analysis.
Between October and November 2012, City staff met with most business
oriented hotels within the City of El Segundo.
• The City posted the Powerpoint® presentation, draft' schematics, and other
matters on the City's website
(elsegundo.or_glnews /d isplaynews,as ^ p ? News ID= 1149 &TaMgtIQ =1).
* The City has posted and (continues to post) all disclosable public
communications regarding the Lakes matter on the City's website
(www.eIseaundo.org/del2ts/cityclerk/documents.asp).
Such proactive actions are in addition to the multiple opportunities taken by interested
citizens to provide public comment to the City Council during its regular meetings. This
matter is also being extensively scrutinized by media coverage (see e.g.,
www.easyreademews.com/74699/residents-assail-topgolf/;
www.dailybreeze.com /20 1 2 1 1 05 /local - golfers- balk -at- proposed- changes -to - the - lakes-
In -el -se undo - course) and various social media outlets.
Based upon the foregoing, the City Council respectfully disagrees with the allegations
set forth in the October 15th Letter as to purported violations of the Brown Act.
Moreover, as you can see from the Due Diiigence and Lease Agreement ( "Agreement ")
that the Council will consider approving at its November 5, 2013 regular meeting, the
alleged Brown Act violations set forth in the October 15th Letter are without merit. There
are twelve specific conditions precedent that must be accomplished before a leasehold
interest could be created. Accordingly, the City is not committed to entering into the
draft Agreement since there are numerous issues that must be resolved in public
meetings before the Planning Commission and City Council before any leasehold could
be established. Such matters include review and potential approval of a conceptual plan
for the golf course and the driving range improvements; review and potential approval of
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a recommended action under the California Environmental Quality Act; review and
potential approval of the land use entitlements that would be needed to allow for the
uses contemplated by the draft Agreement; and many other items that identified in the
draft Agreement.
However, in an abundance of caution, to avoid unnecessary litigation, and without
admitting any violation of the Ralph M. Brown Act, the El Segundo City Council
unconditionally commits that it will cease, desist from, and not repeat the actions
challenged in the October 15th Letter and briefly described above.
Note that the El Segundo City Council may rescind this commitment only by a majority
vote of its membership taken in open session at a regular meeting and noticed on its
posted agenda as "Rescission of Brown Act Commitment." You will be provided with
written notice, sent by any means or media you provide in response to this message, to
whatever address or addresses you specify, of any intention to consider rescinding this
commitment at least 30 days before any such regular meeting. In the event that this
commitment is rescinded, you will have the right to commence legal action pursuant to
Government Code § 54960(a). That notice will be delivered to you by the same means
as this commitment, or may be mailed to an address that you have designated in
writing.
Very truly yours,
Bill Fisher,
Mayor
350 Main Street, El Segundo, California 90245 -3813
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EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATE: May 5, 2015
AGENDA ITEM STATEMENT AGENDA HEADING: Reports of Committees,
Commissions & Boards
AGENDA DESCRIPTION:
Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding the status of The Lakes Vision Committee and
the results of their recent community outreach and engagement.
(Fiscal Impact: None)
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION:
Discuss and provide direction regarding the next steps for The Lakes Vision Committee;
and,
2. Alternatively, discuss and take other action related to this item.
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS: Community Survey Results
FISCAL IMPACT: None
Amount Budgeted: N/A
Additional Appropriation: N/A
Account Number(s): N/A
PREPARED BY: Meredith Petit, Director of Recreation & Parks Ap�
REVIEWED BY: Greg Carpenter, City Manager
APPROVED BY: Greg Carpenter, City Manager,
BACKGROUND & DISCUSSION:
At the City Council meeting on December 16, 2014, El Segundo Resident John D. Gutt placed an item
on the agenda to suggest that City Council support the idea to pursue the development of a Request For
Proposals that could be used to solicit other opportunities for the future operations of The Lakes at El
Segundo Golf Course and Driving Range. A motion was made and the item was approved as indicated
in the meeting minutes, "...to direct the Golf Course Sub - Committee to begin that `public deliberation'
and work with staff on developing the structure, elements and terms of an RFP capable of delivering to
the city the best overall offer for superior recreational use of The Lakes at El Segundo that is consistent
with Council and community expectations regarding both financial performance and the services
provided to our community."
On February 4, 2015, the Golf Course Sub - Committee voted to form a committee comprised of
community volunteers to work with the Recreation and Parks Director to engage the community and
determine key criteria to include in an RFP that could be used to provide comparable solutions to the
future operations at The Lakes. The Lakes "Vision Committee" is comprised of eight people, including
the Recreation & Parks Director (Meredith Petit), a current City Council Member (Mike Dugan), a
former Mayor /Golf Course Subcommittee Member (Bill Bue), El Segundo Golf Club President (John
Gutt), PGA Professional /Junior Golf Program Leader (Josh Alpert), an El Segundo Resident /Frequent
User of The Lakes (Charlie Krolak), and two representatives from Southern California Golf Association
(Craig Kessler and Lew Murez).
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Over the course of four meetings, the committee identified their first priority to be community outreach
and engagement. A survey was developed and was distributed beginning April 1, 2015, via various
online email databases, the City website, El Segundo TV channels, and The Lakes website, as well as
hard copies available at The Lakes, City Hall, the Library, and Recreation & Parks facilities. A
Community Meeting was also held on Monday, April 27, 2015, to validate the survey responses, collect
additional data, and provide information to the public.
If directed to proceed, The Lakes Vision Committee has identified its next step as analyzing the data to
help define criteria that would assist the Council and staff in developing a competitive RFP for future
operations at The Lakes.
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Q1 How often do you use each of the
following amenities at The Lakes?
Driving Range
Putting Green
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Restaurant
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Chipping /Bunker
Practice Area
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Lessons /Clinics
2/53
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Event
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Camps /Youth
Programs
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20% 30%
40% 50%
60% 70% 80%
90%
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1- 3x/Month
1- 2x/Week M 3 -4x/Week
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Driving Range
13.55%
23.01%
27.80%
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9.81%
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Putting Green
16.84%
19.57%
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Golf Course
17.20%
31.33%
25.44%
18.73%
3.53%
3.77%
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22.99%
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24.25%
32.77%
21.97%
14.89%
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25.90%
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24.79%
11.29%
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21.96%
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17.55%
3.28%
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Other (please specify)
I have only attended recognition events there in the past.
We probably go a little more than 1 -2x /year
We don't use it yet because my kids aren't old enough but when they are we hope to take classes there
I used to play there alot but have since given up golf
Golf Course is best and a tribute to El Segundo
Very fun course and good practice facility - especially the putting green which I love -it is kept in great shape!
These are based on me, personally, but my son uses the course daily.
Private lessons 1x per week
Ladies restroom clean but the decor needs to be updated
Prefer to play on regulation sized courses, but my girlfriend is showing an interest in golf so that could change.
great kid programs (good swings happen)
the range is very poorly maintained in regards to mats, balls, level lies on upper level. Mats are worn out and
hard
Have booked the cafe for El Segundo Ladies Golf Club spring luncheon in June 2015.
Lessons, the current footprint of the range, putting green, course and bunker and location are very desireable.
my kids play here once a week I cannot believe that you would consider a company that like top golf who has
lied to this city on numerous occcasions on how much of their revenue is from alcohol as opposed to golf
Used to use youth programs when my child was younger
Love all aspects of the lakes . Changing the lakes would be a crime.
Love all aspects of the lakes . Changing the lakes would be a crime.
We love the youth program. Scott is an amazing teacher.
Use the course maybe 6 -8 times per year
Took lessons for 4 years as a child
The event/banquet venue should be a significant part of the revenue for The Lakes
I've been holding a private annual tourrnament there for 10 years. We've always been treated in a friendly , yet
professional way, and my group who plays there weekly, has grown from 7 to 24 women. We love the
atmosphere, the beautiful grounds. the food, teh friendly pro shop, etc. Most live in Manhattan Beach and El
Segundo or Torrance. I come all the way from Rancho Palos Verdes.
Parking lot and restroom
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Camps/Youth
Programs
Lessons /Clinics
Putting Green
Golf Course
Driving Range
Restaurant
Event
Venue /Banque...
Pro Shop
Chipping /Bunker
Practice Area
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Putting Green
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Golf Course
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Restaurant
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Event Venue /Banquet Room
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Pro Shop
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Chipping /Bunker Practice Area
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27.44%
24.19%
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Chipping area is too small.
Entire staff do a great job
Friendly staff, helpful - Nice 3 par course
Restrooms poor
Bridge games are great!
Wasn't aware of its existence
Great local golfing spot with excellent instructors. Please do NOT change a thing!
Dan Zimring is excellent!
Bathrooms: poor
Never had a chance to use [event venue /banquet room] but looks like a great place when parties are being given
Except for geese "poop"
Ladies restroom
My son takes lessons with Josh Alpert. Absolutely wonderful.
Landscapng and choice of plants is beautifu. Makes it a pleasant place to be.
Great Staff
We love the lessons and camp with Josh and Scott! It's a great community location
The Pro Shop and restaurant are not as important as the current quality of the Pros /lessons and the golfing
facilities.
But these aren't bad ratings - doesn't need to be a 5 -star place! Keep it affordable!
Restaurant could improve on some new items to the menu. It has not changed in yesrs
Restaurant could improve on some new items to the menu. It has not changed in yesrs
bathroom is really shoddy for the rest of the facility
Highly value the driving range for practice
The restaurant is good food with a great staff -- very courteous, friendly, and customer focused.
Restrooms need an upgrade, and need to work!
We feel very strongly that putting should have regular sized holes and that our daughters should experience a
real golf course.
The women's bathroom needs some work. The banquet room could be better decorated.
i been going to this course for years... it is hard to find any place like this around los angeles.
The Lakes restaurant should be one of the most popular casual / family oriented dining places in the entire South
Bay.
Chipping /Bunker area too small! Can only handle 1 or 2 at a time. It's almost always busy when I'd like to use it!
I have been to events with the Manhattan Beach Soropomist Womens group once a month and these events are
wonderful
Parking is good. Golf course price is good for a nine -hole course when compared to a municipal eighteen -hole
course
Groundskeepers are excellent and polite.
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1 took my niece to The Lakes thinking that it would be similar to other restaurants I have frequented on golf
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courses, e.g. nice restaurant overlooking a beautiful golf course and lakes. Although the grounds were very nice,
it was spoiled by the tacky plastic tables and chairs and sub -par coffee -shop atmosphere.
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Bigger chipping area desperately needed. I would use it more but it is too small and always busy.
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Higher quality food, full alcohol selection, nicer amenities
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Update the Pro Shop and Restaurant.
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Need a larger practice area for chipping /bunker.
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Better management of the entire facility
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Love the lakes great local place to play!
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Bunker practice area needs to be expanded.
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CLEANLINESS MENU VEGETARIAN ITEMS INCLUDING GRILLED CHEESE
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Chipping and bunker need to be bigger
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Upgrade banquet/event facility to attract more customers - advertise the changes
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Need many upgrades
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You need better chipping and bunker practice area - not enough room.
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Add some "real" grass behind ball dispensers & charge premium price to use.
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Repair ball wahers
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You are fortunate to have such a facility - People are great too.
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1 do not want an entertainment facility.
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Better management!
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1 do not want the entertainment focused facility. (The kids need this.)
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Restaurant never seems to be open and the food is mediocre, at best. Very few healthy options. Restaurant
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should be improved to be more visually appealing, tastier food, and more of a meeting place before and after golf.
Also should have better snacks and small bites. The event venue /banquet space is in poor condition and isn't of
the quality that I would consider holding events there. It's also a very ugly view looking at the tanks or whatever is
neighboring the driving range.
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1 think the facilities at The Lakes is maintained very well.
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The chipping area is very small and is situated such that you chip towards the parking lot. Generally only one
person can use it at a time.
I did not rank any poor
bunker is small and not maintained, chipping area is so small its unsafe
The practice bunkeri is unlike any bunker in the real world. Chipping green is too small. There is room for I golfer
to practice and chipping range is about 15 yards max.
The pro shop and restaurant are extremely dated and disorganized. They need updated.
sand trap needs to be rebuilt, larger chipping area, purtting green is great, one of the best, new mats and new
balls could charge higher costs if real balls were used
Upgrade the quality of the restaurant to attract more golfers, driving range needs to be enlarged to lure more
business.
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New sand, larger area, larger green
None
Paint would clean it up and look good
Old and in need of upgrades
The chipping and bunker practice area look as though they are never maintained and I never bother using them.
I end up using the practice area at Alondra golf course.
The Chipping Bunker area is not very large. If you took out the row of parking along the South side and opened
that area up (with a net to protect cars) you would increase use and space.
Lack of space
The place needs to be spruced up a bit to make it a nicer environment to eat. Would like to see it remain a casual
family friendly place.
The restaurant and bar could be upgraded to take advantage of the view and outdoor patio. The golf course
should still remain a serious golf course. Many young kids come here from the beach cities to learn to play golf.
El Segundo should encourage sports for the betterment of all residents of El Segundo and the other beach cities.
The chirping green just needs a wider expansion. Better chipping green
Larger practice area
better mats; better balls; more targets and a way of communicating that target's exact distance from your mat
(rather than just three signs in the middle of the range that might not be that distance from you depending on
where you're hitting from); stations to clean your clubs; the top section has elements that fray and hang out down
into the some areas of the bottom; dividers between the stations that act as protection from other golfers too;
friendly people in the pro shop; cleaner /updated rest rooms; larger areas to chip and work on sand game with
better /thicker /deeper sand); larger landing zones from the bunker
The restaurant is open for lunch but is closed in the evenings.
Did not mark any this way
Restaurant not open in evenings or bar not open in evenings when one may want to have a drink with friends.
Restaurant has opportunity to have way more traffic as the location is ideal and the setting is great for sitting
outside and enjoying the water feature on the course, Bathroom stalls are often out of order and I notice it takes a
long time for that to get addressed.
Chipping /Bunker Practice Area - Better care of the practice green and bunker would help a lot. I would redesign
the area and take some of the practice putting green area and enlarge the chipping green and practice area.
Restaurant and Banquet Facilities - I would extend hours and create events to attract people to come and use
the place after practice or even as a destination restaurant.
Chipping green too small
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Love this place. Very unique to anything in LA.
Chipping needs updating
Chipping /bunker area is too small. Only 1 person can use it.
Chipping area needs a fence - could be larger
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Improve chipping area grass & make it flat plus larger green and bigger space
Limited items in the Pro Shop
I don't go often enough to comment on driving range. The restaurant is friendly and affordable and is used in
many ways by the community.
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Keep the facility as is. It is a great facility that serves as a golf course plus
I recently ate lunch outside at The Lakes on a really warm sunny day. Only 1 umbrella was up and asked to have
1 at my table. They said all the other 4 were broken. Really! The answer is TOP GOLF.... guaranteed
revenue,jobs,business and much more.
Driving range needs work, lights for at night. Top Golf would improve the entire facility. The restaurant and
banquet rooms need to improve their appeal and invest money to bring it up a notch. Not very good overall.
Everything at The Lakes is in poor shape except the Golf course. Even the course has horrible sand traps. The
restaurant is small and looks like it's from the 70's. The menu has few choices on it, but the food is good. Putting
green has terrible spacing between holes. Bunker area is a joke. The sand is more like dirt.
Chipping area is very cramped and small, pro shop suffers from poor service, OK selection. Restaurant is run
with minimal service and zero ambiance. Banquet facilities is one rec room
They need to be updated and refreshed. The property is not at the standard appropriate for the area. I am not just
looking for convenience of location, I want a high quality of venue.
I thought The Lakes was going to be a Top Golf facility now, but I guess not. The driving range doesn't have
enough bays and the turf for hitting balls is extremely hard. I've cracked a few clubs using that range. My son
also can't get into golf because The Lakes is so bland. Top Golf would have been great...
Chipping /bunker just needs more room
Range - The turf is extremely hard, there's no where to relax if you aren't hitting right away, and trying to reach
each flag is unsatisfying. Shop - Too small and cramped. Bunker - Sand more feels like hard dirt.
Chipping area too small. Not enough area to practice all shots
The putting green is a joke, not really even useable, bumpy, ill prepared,not mowed correctly, just horrible
I rated all things good and excellent. We LOVE the Lakes. It is so user - friendly, cozy, and the youth programs
through Good Swings Happen are amazing!
Serivice is poor
Pro shop has limited and over priced merchandise
Larger chipping area
Better balls at the range. I spend a couple hundred a month at another range for this reason alone. Chipping area
is way too small.
larger putting green with slope, event room too small for anything other than a club meeting, food has never been
very good
Expand offerings/ size Increase attractiveness
Not enough space, no sand in the bunker, dangerously small area to hit shots
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Bunker needs more sand. Chipping area not very large, can usually only acommodae one person at a time
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Greater selection
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Chipping area would at least need to be patched up to get a pass, and expanded and made available to public to
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Need more sand int the practice bunker and larger practice area.
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Unless Money is poured in, nothing other than that will do
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One pro instructor at facility is annoying he has no regards to others on driving range when giving instruction to
4/8/2015 12:55 PM
his clients. Putting green regularly crowded with children and instructors.
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The chipping bunker area is terrible just go look at it.
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A larger area which I know may not be possible.
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Driving range is poody maintained and all of the choice locations are always occupied by pros. The restaurant
4/8/2015 12:10 PM
selection and quality of food is very poor and not compelling. The pro shop is crowded and poorly merchandised
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Restaurant needs to be upgraded. The service is very slow. Bunker area is way below average.
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Larger practice area.
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Chipping / bunker area worn down from small space & overuse. Mostly a waste of time.
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The putting green is too crowded.
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The driving range is basically a concrete bunker. The mats are old and don't provide for the right feel when hitting
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a golf ball. The Pro Shop and Restaurant and in poor condition due to the inadequate maintenance of the facility.
The restrooms are especially poor and not clean. On the 9th hole you can't tee off with your driver due to the
driving range. This limits golfers to use all the clubs in their bag.
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The facility is not quite up to par, comparing it to the great putting green and range
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it "s a beginners golf course the course is to short to keep my interest.
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Driving Range: Can use remodel, better targets. Chipping area, non - existent. Bunkers, no room for either to truly
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practice. Pro -Shop, small and not welcoming.
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Only thing it sells of interest is range balls. No clothes our other golf related items. They had clothes inn the past.
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The mats are hard. A practice mat should have some give so it doesn't send a injury producing shock up through
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the club to the golfer. They need periodic replacement and this is not done. The upper level is not flat I assume to
help with drainage. The chipping area is too small and poorly maintained. If they are going to have a range it
should be maintained to at least a minimal level. Balls often need replacement
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Putting practice green and the course greens always seems very slow. The chipping area is too small.
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be increased in size and the bunker would been to be increased in size with more sand.
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Food quality and selection are less than average
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Bunker and chipping green are too small an area. Chipping on downhill lie. Bunker has no sand . Worthless!
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week end I see lost revenue there - there needs to be a knowledgeable food and beverage person in charge and
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Driving range mats are old and balls Short game area awful, need more real -state , maybe near first tee instead.
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Chipping green is like a rug now.
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The chipping /bunker Area should be larger, change the sand in the bunker to softer sand, and put a real green so
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when you chip, you can really see how it rolls to the flag. In all, it is too congested. 1
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The driving range needs to be covered, heated and cooled , mats replaced. The banquet room and kitchen also
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need much help and items replaced. The Lakes is old and needs a complete face lift. Who has the $$, not the
city? Top Golf has the $$ and would be a great GOLF, as you say, entertainment facility. It will generate
guaranteed revenue for the city, jobs and much more.
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CHIPPING AREA IS A LITTLE SMALL AND NOT KEPT UP VERY WELL.
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The range balls and yardage markers make it mean impossible to guage distance. Chipping area is too small
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and bunker is rock hard. Pro shop small with little selection compared to near by shops. Resturant average food
with nice but very very slow service.
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My son plays on a local golf team and spends a great deal of time using The Lakes. He comments that the
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chipping area is small and inadequate ..... and this is where his game needs the most practice. The putting green
is very good, but it is often very very busy. It could be larger which it
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Larger pro shop so it may offer a small selection of golf clothing and accessories. Resturant staff are friendly,
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Chipping green too small and the back third is sloped so that ball will not stop next to hole closet to parking lot.
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Putting green has very few holes that break very much.
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The restaurant is OK for a very casual facility. The patio would make a LOVELY event venue but the interior
4/7/2015 1:03 PM
space and bathroom are just not "nice event/wedding" quality.
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None.
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None - we LOVE the Lakes just as it is!
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The course should be in better shape and longer
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The chipping area is very small and not adequate for a larger number of golfers. The area needs to be expanded.
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PRO SHOP is crowded, poorly merchandised and appears sloppy, " mom &Pop" shop, needs better shelving ,
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merchandising, display. Chipping and bunkeer area needs to replaced with something of less than the " after
thought" that it appears asd , currently.
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Having a larger area more people could use
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Bathrooms have heavy water damaged, roof leaks. Very 1970's
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Offer more than chips and salsa, the occasional soup, and packaged food. The food does not have to be
4/7/2015 10:51 AM
gourmet. Wholesome sandwiches (made to order or pre - wrapped); grilled offerings at lunch (11 -2), dinner (4 -7) -
chicken, burgers, hot dogs, grilled veggies; and fresh mixed green salads with veggie add ins. Could also offer
snacks of yogurt, hummus and carrot sticks, apples and pretzels with peanut butter, hard boiled eggs,
watermelon and melon wedges. Weekend breakfast could include outsourced breakfast burritos from Amigos
Tacos.
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bunker is to small and to close to putting green.
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We love the lakes but the facilities (eg restaurant) would benefit from an upgrade.
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If you don't understand why these are rated as poor, then get out and visit different golf facilities.
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Updated, more size, more technology.
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The golf course is a joke. It's a 2 minute drive from my house, so I play with hacker friends once in a while. There
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isnt enough land to make a full course, but there is enough to make a really good par 3 course, rather than
pointless 290 yard par 4's. The driving range is one of the worst i've ever seen. The low compression golf balls
are almost worthless for practice. It screws up your distance perception when the ball goes 40+ yards less than a
real golf ball. I played D1 college golf at a top program, and I legitimately get tired and sore from hitting a bucket of
those terrible fake golf balls because they are so rock hard and heavy. Obviously I would love to have a grass
driving range and real golf balls. But given that 99% of customers would destroy the grass, i think you should offer
a grass range to people willing to pay for membership, or pay substantially more per bucket. The grass should be
firm and closely mown fairway style grass, not the kind of grass that gives you a flyer on every shot.
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More space for chipping, bunker practice.
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The current chipping green is very small and would be much more of a benefit if it was expanded and provided
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more options for different types of shots.
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Limmited distance balls don't feel right. They feel light, get better ones. Make the putting green larger by
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incompasing the chipping area. Then allow chipping (not pitching) on one side at a time, and rotate weekly on the
side used. Remove practice bunker.
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just not a good facility. I would drive 30 miles to play a real course
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Put better sand in the bunker & make it larger. Put some undulations in the practice putting green. Close the
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Chipping area is a little too close to parking lot. It would be nice to have a bit more space there.
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too small.
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Restaurant actually has to be open to use it during evening practice sessions. Watch a ball game and eat
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horsdouvers ?? Folks in there are friendly and the food is good. Waste of valuable real- estate from 4 -10pm every
day though. Pro shop staff relatively unhelpful, unknowledgable, unmotivated and "doing the customer a favor"
half the time.
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Chipping area simply needs a little more TLC and upkeep. It is a great amenity, but doesn't appear that it is
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maintained regularly.
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Play is slow due to the lack of a marshal to enforce speed of play. there is no place to relax while practicing on the
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range. no food service on the range. Resturant service is slow especially for a golf course. chipping /bunker and
putting green are to small/crowded to be usefull.
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Rarely used and needs good management to reinvigorate, that DOES NOT mean Top Golf. Twenty something's
4/7/2015 6:27 AM
partying would only drive people away and they do not really want to play golf. They want a silly game to
"enhance their drinking ".
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Bunker needs sand. The area is too small for a good chipping area. A wonderful short shot area established by
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turning the 9th green into a short game area where you could hit 50 yard shots, and build a new green by the
lake. This would eliminate the occasional golf ball into the out door dining area. You could charge customers to
use the short game area. The 9th hole would need to become a par 3 from the current par 4..
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Restaurant rarely open when I am here. Shop folks don't seem to know much about golf.
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Upgrades needed to finishes, menu, goods, and layout
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Expand the size, then sallow out the bunker and flatten the chipping area.
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More offerings I the pro shop.
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Needs more grass area around green to chip from / bunker is not maintained.
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Maintain the practice bunker with fresh sand - double the size of the chipping green and maintain good quality
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surface - then people would not need to chip on the main putting green. Post a sign in the short game practice
area giving the rules for use so it can be kept in good condition, There should also be signs near the main putting
green with rules for use to help all patrons have a good experience and make the green easier to maintain. The
course maintenance crew does an outstanding job currently - it could be even better if we could all follow some
simple etiquette guidelines.
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The chipping area is not an adequate place to practice, and the pro shop is over priced and the staff is not friendly
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Not enough space at the driving range. Frequently seems to be taken up by golf teachers and kids
4/4/2015 7:51 AM
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The restaurant venue is in. Dire need of upgrading and revamping. The place looks horrible.
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In need of makeover. Dated and smells old
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The mats are terrible. It would be nice to have mats with more padding and more realistic. Chipping area needs
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to be maintained, bunker is in need of more sand. Need a net in front of the bushes at chipping area. Range balls
are dead
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Sometimes very young kids on the range are too noisy and need better supervision.
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Chipping /bunker area would need to be bigger to create more room for practice, The pro shop is over priced and
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has very limited selection of merchandise.
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Need better chipping area. Need some technology for range. Better distance markers.
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Needs to be updates. Very 1970's
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The Pro Shop is not large enough to carry a variety of equipment and can be cramped near the cash register.
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Chipping and bunker area is very small and can handle no more than 2 golfers.
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The bunker sand is not of uniform depth. Hitting from the back reveals very thinly covered hardpan. The front of
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the bunker is deplorable: I remember seeing this section being "repaired" with sand bags and thinking 1) this is
ugly, 2) this won't hold up to wear and, 3) surely the maintenance staff must know this "repair" is both ugly and
won't hold up to wear so why are they doing it this way? At this point the "repair" has deteriorated due to wear
and remains ugly.
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The proshop needs a selection of golf clubs available for trial and purchase to be competitive
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The pro shop has nothing for women I think that the announcement when you call is awful. I would like to see
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some of the people at the pro shop help rather than stay behind the desk. If the pitching and sand bunkers were
kept up it would help a lot Also they should be separate. I am sure someone with imagination could find a corner
for chipping away from the sand trap
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As above, need more space for the chipping /Bunker area
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Would be a great place to have a good restaurant. Has short hours.
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The amenities are great. My daughter is 12 years old and practices here every day. She takes three lessons a
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week, and drives 105 balls a day. We do not want to see an increase in alcohol or change in the venue. If alcohol
availability is increased on this course for whatever reason, we will have to go somewhere else. Alcohol increase
will only attract people that want to drink, and not serious golfers that want to play. We have the cities of
Inglewood and Hawthorne in our backyards. A golf course that serves alcohol on the driving range will attract a
dangerous element, one that I do not want to expose myself to, or my daughter. Should El Segundo choose to
sell /lease this property to a private party that provides this type of venue, we will be forced to leave. We live 10
minutes away from the Lakes now, but we will relocate to another course and drive further if necessary. Think
about the youth.
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Need a larger and more isolated area.
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The Ladies Room is very much in need of some remodeling and also needs more attention to cleanliness.
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Reduce the degree of slope steepness to the chipping green and on the chipping green so that the balls roll out
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more naturally.
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Bunker needs attention, better sand, a little deeper. Always a danger of hitting someone chipping near by
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Put more and better sand in the sand trap and make the practice area larger. Maybe by shrinking the putting
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the bunker needs more sand, a portion of the bunker is solid dirt, maybe put a net on the right side of the bunker
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so you dont loose balls in the bushes.
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Banquet room needs major makeover. It's not a pleasant room. Driving range is old, out of date needs to come
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Very stale ambiance. Unattractive and uninviting.
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Chipping area needs to be larger and Bunker orientated away from others.
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Chipping and sand area way to small, unsafe to putt nearby
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It is a convenient facility, but certainly not a top notch golf course. Don't see how it could be reasonably improved.
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1 would expect them to be cleaner, fresher and have a "more lively" environment.
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A quality restaurant would be an excellent amenity to this facility. A better chipping area also would be beneficial
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More frequent replenishment of sand in sand trap
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The chipping area is limited and has you facing downhill toward the parking lot. It isn't very good.
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periodic flyers.
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The driving range could use a makeover to improve the greens. The pro shop is poorly stocked and doesn't seem
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to take advantage of the range. The course just needs a better pace of play and for the greens to be up to the
standard of the practice green.
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too small and can not accommodate enough individuals
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Rated chipping area as average but could be improved
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It's dirty and gross
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The banquet facility needs updating - furniture, decor, etc.
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1 would think the outside tables would at least be a better quality. I have to say that the food (salads) were quite
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good, so there were no complaints there. However, I needed to take my niece out for a dinner later in the week
because I didn't feel that I really did her any favors by taking her to a place with a coffee shop atmosphere.
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Size of chipping area is small and becomes crowded easily, bunker and rough of chipping area could be better
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maintained.
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They need some more space
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More daily specials at the restaurant. Additional putting greens with more slope and break.
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There needs to be a renovation of the restaurant and facilities. Quality food and drinks and a nice atmosphere.
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Really, the only way to improve is expansion, and given the geographic and fiscal limitations, that's not really an
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option.
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Update the Pro Shop and Restaurant.
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Become more current
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Top Golf would provide a better driving range and restaurant/bar.
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Same as above
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More comfy seating at the restaurant, make the outdoor seating area more comfy and inviting too.
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Restaurant needs a much needed face lift. It's outdated. Regarding driving range, sometimes mats are over
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worn.
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More advertising and website improvements would be a good idea. The web info to request banquet room is
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limited in my opinion. Not having to request info thru a contact person or email is tedious.
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Pads are worn Rubber T not always available. Pro Shop small and expensive
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Nice people, the facilities are kept in shape, great place
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ALLOW MORE SPACE OBETWEEN GOLFERS ON DRIVING RANGE
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More undulating putting green would be nice. It's big enough to 1/2 flat, 1/2 with slight inclines.
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Make chipping area larger. Upgrade banquet room
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Matts on driving range need to be kept up
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Although I'm not a regular golfer, I do like to use the range at the lakes as a tune up before visiting my father in
4/20/2015 2:45 PM
law. The range is currently nothing special, but does the trick for my tuneup. Based on what I've heard from
friends about Top Golf the range experience would be significantly improved if they were allowed to run the
facility, and it might make it more of a entertainment destination for me rather than just an occasional tuneup.
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Driving Range - Top Golf /Course Lights Redo Traps and Tee boxes
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Add Marshalls on weekends to eliminate "honors" putting - we're not on the PGA Tour
Golf course some holes need water, treatment/driving range needs matts changed more often.
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Sand in the bunker is usually not very good.
Should be btw. Excellent & good for all
Make a larger area for chipping and putting. Driving range up to date w/ technology.
Night Golf
Better management!
Need fence at chipping /parking
The Pro shop needs to be updated, particularly the restrooms which as out of date. The chipping area needs to
be reworked /updated as it tends to be in bad shape.
Driving range - better mats needed. View is terrible with the tanks next door. Pro shop - better selection needed.
the restaurant is fine but has limited menu
The grass is a little worn and cars are often parked just beyond the green which make me hesitant about really
practicing there while thinking about hitting a car.
The golf course is fine for a par 3 course and little could be done to improve.
The course and driving range /practice area are alright, but nothing special. A little more TLC would go a long way
to improving them.
new restaurant operator is needed with full hours, dinner and full bar, entertainment , lease whole thing to
operator, take city out of business
Fix them up, they look shabby and not customer pleasing.
I'd love to see some fresh fruit and /or healthier snacks in the restaurant.
N/A
Make decisions!
More competitive prices
More variety on restaurant menu
A bigger area for it
Bigger for more variety
put more sand in the bunker because it is like hitting a brick
Better menu and chef in restaurant Better grounds maintenance, especially the greens Putting holes are not put
in very well and frequently have a lip to them Pro shop is very small and limited
chipping, bunker area needs to be renovated and enlarged. Pro shop needs to be enlarged and more women's
clothing available
better quality all around
You do not have enough land to make the golf course more than average. The pro shop and restaurant are what
they are......... average. There Is no need to improve them.
The building areas all could use an upgrade. Had an event in the banquet room years ago and it was nice.
I think everything I specified is good doesn't need to be improved
Bunker and chipping is a bit hard to utilize
There is not much to the pro shop. They could have a wider selection. The restaurant is very good overall.
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Bigger green and more grass
Banquet room can do with a small upgrade with carpet and decor. Pro shop service is inconsistent and
professionalism of workers needs attention. Check in area can do with some cleaning and "de cluttering"
Better maintenance of the mats and golf balls would help. Getting rid of restricted flight balls would help too.
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Improve the sand in the pracice bunker
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More lighting - rearrange merchandise
All is fine
Clean divats on greens
Course is fine for a par 3
Fix the restaurant door slam
Better mats. Maybe like the 2 piece mats at Westchester. The hitting area is softer & cheaper to replace.
Patio by banquet opened
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Better matts, or no malts. & better grass
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The Golf Course bunkers all need to be replaced. Light on the course would extend playing time hours.
Question... Who is going to pay for this? City has no money!
Improve the course overall. The overall facility needs a facelift and refurbishment.
Pro shop needs more merchandise, overall upgrades of facility
Chipping /bunker practice area. Only room for maybe 2 people. The bunker faces the chipping area so you're
hitting out of the bunker towards anyone hitting from the chipping area and vice versa.
Love the golf course. One of the jewels of the South Bay.
Tearing the place down and putting up something new. I heard Top Golf was coming in, which would be great as
I've been to the one in Texas.
Driving range is nice, but cannot grade above average with 70 percent golf balls. Is there no creative solution to
fix this. Perhaps a higher net that is 3o yards in front of back net>
Sand -trap could use some help. Maybe a screen around that area to protect miss hits.
An overall update and refresh is required
Putting green is like every other putting green I've played at. Nothing can change it. Restaurant has decent food
choices, but the beer and booze selection is awful. There are few tables outside and no available shade except
for two tables with umbrellas. The restaurant looks really old too.
Small and not easy to use.
Restaurant - Could have useable umbrellas and better liquor selection. Lessons - Only having third party
instructors isn't a good thing. Lakes should employ some. Putting - Could be spaced better.
They are fine for a 9 hole course
pro shop, to small, no one to help you buy
See above comments that everything is rated good and excellent alreadyl!I
We have asked management for so called improvements and not being taken in to consideration
The Chipping / Bunker Area is a too small
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The chipping area should be changed. It is not similar to an actual golf course level chipping green. It would
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definitely be better if the chipping green made us, golfers, feel as if we're chipping on a course, This game is all
about feeling so make the chipping green as if it's like its on a hole,
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course is good for what it is but isn't "regulation ". Driving range mats are terrible, no ambience to driving range.
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Other than Josh Alpert the teaching pros aren't very good.
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The golf course layout is good but improvements could be made to the surrounding landscaping. Also, the ball
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low compression golf balls are used because of the shortness of the range so its hard to gauge how far one is
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Better food and more appealing dining facility. Regarding the driving range, grass on the range and upgraded
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Restaurant could have better more healthy food options
The Banquet Room is too small. For the driving range it needs new mats„ it would be really awesome if every
other Friday for two hours, the public can use the bottom for grass only, need new balls, even put some baskets
out on the range to practice chipping into.
The Golf Course isn't bad but could definitely use night lights. Also the sand traps need to be redone.
GOLF COURSE IS OK, BUT AGAIN IT IS NOT KEPT IN VERY GOOD SHAPE.
Course and chipping area could use repair.
Pro shop is small and not well laid out. Merchandise is difficult to view, very small selection for ladies. All that
could be improved with a big makeover to better use the existing space. Merchandise should be evaluated if you
want to encourage purchasing and cash flow from retail. Banquet room is just small.
Golf course could work on flat tee boxes, traps with sand not dirt mix, and repairing ball marks on greens. Putting
is crowded not sure how to fix that.
The range is a place where golfers go to practice if there was natural grass available for the driving range that
would be very good as mats hide many bad shots. Chipping area could be considerably larger allowing for more
that 1 person at a time to practice
Bigger
I am not unhappy with those items. Meets expectations.
The driving range matts are fairly worn out downstairs.
I think the restaurant and event venue are good, but a bit outdated. I think the restaurant could be a bit more
engaging with a new set up /look and feel (add bar seating).
Green is pretty flat and doesn't have many challenges. its pretty small area to chip,Chipping area is small and if
more than 1 person wants to use it it can be a bit hazardous, Restaurant when compared to most golf course
restaurants is simply average based on quality of food, and choices.
Better sand in the trap. Bigger chipping area. Banquet room needs paint.
Improve chipping area, better range balls, faster green
Keep course clean and well maintained.
I'm not really sure it's realistic to increase the scope of the pro shop. I will go to a sporting good store for what I
need. It's fine for balls and tees and misc items.
Decor of banquet room could be made more aesthetically pleasing.
More variety in food selection.
Bigger, more choices
do not want TOP GOLF
More fresh - ingredient menu items (fruits, veggies, grilled protein)
More dedicated area
Have a company like "Top Golf' come in and revitalize the driving, putting and chipping areas and program
offerings!
None - it's a perfect golf course!
Grass range, way better chipping area
re -do them
Need larger bunker and chipping area.
There are probably other things that could be done for the banquet room, but, we do not use it except for some
clinics that I attend.
Pro shop needs to be bigger with more merchandise.
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The short game area is pathetic. It adds zero value to the facility and should be removed. I would so much rather
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have a world class short game facility, where you could charge membership fees, or per hour rates or something,
than a pathetic joke of a golf hole or artificial lake etc. Nobody cares if they play 9 full holes on a par 3 course,
just blow up one of the holes and put in a world class short game facility.
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The restaurant currently isn't open in the later hours of the day and could easily receive an "excellent" rating if it
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adequate for a small 9 -hole course. Restaurant - Food is good, nothing special. Service is always good. Would
not expect it to be more than what it is as I find it average but adequate.
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number of balls. One side out of order more than it should be. Baskets often have to be collected by customers.
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For both pro shop and restaurant, a little more variety would be helpful, and both provide good but not great
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Expand its size BUT that would be the tail wagging the dog. Overall The lakes is well laid out and serves its
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The driving range could use new mats sooner than current rotation. Tees need to be in the mats. The bottom
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level could be heated to bring more than the hard core golfer to the facility during poor weather. The range balls
should be better flying balls. The restaurant has good food which needs to be promoted. There is a great patio
that isn't utilized often enough in the evenings. Maybe some live music? Maybe a wind screen would make it
more comfortable? Pro Shop needs a woman buying merchandise, displaying the merchandise. Club fitting, you
won't buy it if you can't try it. Pro shop generated Leagues & tournaments.
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Range should be cleaner. Mats always get run down before changed. Balls are terrible. Cold /windy in the
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The golf course design is a simple design but the lakes has been like this for decades. People come to expect a
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simple fun design. Everything else is average because of the limitation on space.
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More women's merchandise would help Pro Shop sales. Women shop and stylish golf apparel would sell. The
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restaurant is pretty could but has a lot of potential to be great! It needs more food selections and should open
earlier. More advertising would help business. Adds in the Beach Reporter, Easy Reader, Daily Breeze would
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Replace the green tarp on the upper part of the driving range. Very unsightly and annoying when it flaps in the
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The Lakes restaurant should be one of the most popular casual / family oriented dining places in the entire South
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Bay. A professional restaurant operator should be leasing the restaurant and operating based on a set of
objectives defined by the city of El Segundo. One suggestion is to have fun things for kids, maybe golf and
education oriented games in a separate room. Consider installing a retractable cover over the patio so it can be
used year round to expand seating. Consider adding a putting course surrounding the restaurant, not a putt putt
but real grass with terrain features, customers who do not play golf could also enjoy this, of course a reasonable
fee would be charged for these activities.
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Prices in restaurant should be a little lower.
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Get rid of the duck crap on the course. Eliminate the stench from the nearby processing facility. Replace the
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Restaurant- Improve the food choices and quality. chipping /bunker area needs more room and where more than
one person can comfortable use it.
Upgrading the golf course would require being able to lengthen the course a little (some holes are very short),
expand the pro shop and upgrade the conditioning of the practice green and bunker.
the restaurant food is average, not bad, not great. It would have to offer a little more gourmet to merit good or
better. Its not a deal breaker.
Everything is a bit rundown
Out of darw
More short game practice areas.
Better mats & better balls
bigger, cheaper
better up keep of grass, mats surrounding area.
Upgraded signage and improved turf on driving range.
Is good
The golf course is limited by the available area. Don't try to squeeze in more holes or try to squeeze in longer
holes. Do some thing smart and make it into a world -class par 3 course. A fine example of this type of course is
Bandon Preserve. Look it up. Build something like this and the world will come to play it. Oh, and the putting
green has wonderful grass and is well cared for given the traffic, but it sure could use a more noticeable break
here or there.
all driving range mats need to be replaced. dividers should also be placed between mats /hitting stations.
Increased size and maintenance
Pro shop is very small and carries very limited clothing and equipment.
Bigger Chipping area
I participated for years in a spring /summer league. I have stopped participating because the pro shot continued
allowing people to walk on ahead of us and not honoring our tee times. Very frustrating to rush from the office
only to tee off 20 minutes late.
More options in pro shop and restaurant.
not a big enough area
The chipping green is a little too angled in some places so putting a ball on one side with not much speed may
end up with it rolling all the way off the hill. Also sometimes balls get lost in the bushes
I think the restaurant can use a upgrade in decor. If the food is better, I would probably eat there more often.
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Restaurant is between excellent and good ... always enjoy eating outside.
attention to detail on the course,
The course is nice. Average in this case doesn't means anything is wrong with it. It would be nice to be able to
qualify for handicap scoring though.
The course is in OK shape for the type of venue it is. It is essentially a pitch and putt. It is in good shape.
small
The sand can get hard and compact in the practice bunker.
The facilities are 'average' for a course like this, but would probably be rated 'below average' for a championship
type course,
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Better quality sand is needed in the practice bunker - and more of it! It is more like wet cement at times, with
hardpack just under the surface. Pro shop does not carry much in the way of women - specific items.
The area devoted to chipping and bunker shots sometimes interferes with that devoted to putting.
I only drive by. Never gone there.
Make the course all par 3's so you could lengthen a few short hole and speed play. Use real golf balls on the
range.
The restaurant closes to early for me to use it
conditions only
Grass driving range
More variability in the putting green... e.g. slopes. The chipping area is quite crowded and could use more space!
Food = eh.
Pro Shop and chipping practice area are both small. The Pro Shop does not look appealing for purchases. The
staff are very nice and courteous.
I have never been there.
No variety of food and price reflects few specials.
Golf course- more par 4s.
The overall feel of the club house /pro shop is average. Introducing more hi end products, and even an additional
par 4 on the course.
Better balls would be great, and the upper deck needs to be leveled
another location for sand trap, people chipping and bunker can't use at same time, or a big net around the bunker
Pro Shop has limited offerings of new irons.
Bigger greens. Grass hitting areas for the driving range
Bunker and chipping area need to be enlarged and redone. The sand build -up on the wall of the bunker has
eliminated the sand in the trap.
Driving range is functional but boring. Pro shop is small could benefit from a virtual driving station.
Nothing. They are acceptable
The Pro Shop might have specials and advertise in the Herald.
Improve grass. Chef out mats and balls more often. Better lights
Synthetic grass mats should replace existing rubber mats at both lower & upper level.
The restaurant and banquet room are not unique or take advantage of the location, so there is no reason to go
except golf. Make the restaurant a destination to attract lunch and evening business, not just a bar.
Eliminating
see (5)
Year out down and start over.
Let Top Golf invest millions and make it a destination.
The Pro Shop seems overflowing with merchandise and I never see anyone purchasing anything. It makes the
area crowded. I would clear it out to include minimal merchandise and update the check -in counter. The
chipping /bunker area needs more space.
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Q5' What other amenities, enhancements or
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Lakes?
Answered: 300 Skippod, 561
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1 Love the open space. I look forward to going to the lakes. It actually feels like we are getting out of the over
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crowded city please don't take it away
2 None
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3 It may be nice to have a quality restaurant on a second level that could overlook the golf course or maybe even a
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private room where people could hold private parties with a little better atmosphere.
4 Make it an 18 hole as well as a 9 hole.
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5 One day per week when hitting off grass on range is permitted.
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6 Nothing at this time. I don't play golf
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8 1 would love to see more kids camps that are affordable.
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9 1 was hoping that there was a general comments field, but since there isn't, I will use this one. I have never been
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to the Lakes. I'm not a golfer. My perception is that golfing is expensive, so I would never consider it as a sport
for me. That said, I have a good friend who is a teacher there. And just recently, my children have expressed an
interest in learning golf. I would like to see a one week camp during the summer through parks and rec that the
kids can participate in. Or perhaps a 2 month session with pricing on par with some of the other kid classes. Kind
of an intro into golfing. Something affordable that will give kids the opportunity to experience the sport to see if
they even like it.
10 A nicer bar/ restaurant
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11 Update the Pro Shop and Restaurant.
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12 Become more current
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13 I'd like to see what Top Golf would do to improve the driving range experience, and restaurant bar experience. I'd
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be more likely to hang out there more often and for longer.
14 Top Golf!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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15 I've heard the summer camp is good, just haven't tried it yet for any of my kids
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16 Has it all.
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17 Could upgrade pro shop to bring in more revenue. Restaurant upgraded. Golf course bunkers need to be
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maintained better.
18 Better chipping green
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19 love the local feel and would like to keep it that way, the jr golf programs are invaluable to the community
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20 The bar tender for the banquet room needs to be friendly! In my experience the bar tender there is terrible!
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24 1 would like some events or special occasions at the Lakes. Parties, BBQs, Driving Contests, etc.
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28 1 don't play anymore but if I sell did I would like to see a Childrens day only if you don't do that already
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29 Not much. Love the lakes as a community place
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31 i haven't ever gone because the restaurant has very poor word of mouth. We need to have a great restaurant that
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32 MORE PARKING. Nicer Driving Range- Top Golf!!!! I want to be able to go with my family and watch my boys
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34 Same as above but mostly Top Golf
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36 Fix leak in Ladies room, get rid of smelly deodorizers & soap
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42 None - Exceptional value
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43 Better furniture on patio for lunch & umbrellas.
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44 Better furniture on patio for lunch & umbrellas.
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45 Better furniture on patio for lunch & umbrellas.
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46 Fence between (illegible) bunker and & chipping
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47 A nicer restaurant/bar with a revamped menu. A better selection of craft beer and wine would be great.
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48 Slight updates to all aspects of The Lakes are needed to keep the facility up to date.
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50 for it's space it is laid out well
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driving range in L.A. is mat -only. Allowing people to hit off grass would separate The Lakes from the rest.
52 1 think it is great right now!
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57 Sign -ups for driving range when it is busy, ie. a list of the next person to get a slot.
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58 More offerings in Pro Shop for ladies. We are shoppers!
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Bright lights for driving area at night
Get rid of the 2 par 4's. Requires too many additional clubs, slows play. Should be all par 3.
fix some of the tee boxes on some holes it is hard to find a good spot to tee up your ball
1) A much improved chipping area. 2) A well structured junior golf program similar to Heartwell in Long Beach
where kids complete a series of structured lessons then progress to playing in weekly tournaments.
Better grounds maintenance on golf course
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Full bar service
ladies groups?
General upgrades across the board
You need a much higher fence on the end of the driving range so that I can hit something other than those rock
hard, high compression balls on the range.
The facility seems great for meetings and events. If the rooms are upgraded a bit the venue would probably be
more popular. A nicer outside eating area would be good.
Chipping green, and making the driving range balls more compressed to have more ball flight
Please keep the Lakes at El Segundo the way it is for the future. It's the only family friendly golf course in the
area that is safe and welcomes golfers of all ages and abilities.
Could use help with chipping area but other wise I love to use this course and it's very convenient to people in el
segundo and in neighbor cities
None. We like it as is.
Better chipping practice area. More junior teams.
I would like to see them improve the chipping green.
Better range balls. Maybe grass hitting area at the range
Improved hours for the restaurant. I think I would love to have a meal outside in the evenings or have a drink
after 5 pm with friends and family. The area is perfect while I wait for kids to take lessons, but is never open at
that time. Also, it would be great if my kids could eat a healthy meal there after a later afternoon or evening
lesson. We would consume if it was an option!
I would like to see more events that incorporate the entire facility. For example, an evening "tournament" or
competition challenge followed by an event dinner for various age groups or skill levels.
Better T Box maintenance
Keep as is
Just keep course and driving range in best shape possible. Don't bring in Top Golf. Its fun but it is a bar scene
more than a golfing event
Keep golf course green and natural. Don't add bar and parking structure. Keep community gathering and venue
location for neighborhood patrons.
Re -do patio - add plexiglass west side wind break cover half w /awning for more shade tables 1/2 & 1/2
Improve the restaurant Minor improvement to chipping area to provide room for more golfers
Fine as it is
Maybe longer hours in the restaurant. Fix up the restrooms
Better chip area net / of fence. Too afraid hit a car
Better driving range
Upgrade the bathrooms
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Bathroom facility can be improved
Not a priority for our company or our residents here in El Segundo.
None. Keep as is.
TOP GOLF is the "Vision" for the Lakes!
Top Golf!
Updated bathrooms and overall building
Two stories for the restaurant to take advantage of views of the golf course and surrounding areas. The
restaurant food and room needs upgrading to attract non - golfers. Find out what the El Dorado Golf Course
restaurant is doing. The food is very good and people from the community come there to eat.
Love the golf course. One of the jewels of the South Bay.
Better distance marking for the driving range.
Everything. I only go for the course as everything else is of poor quality.
Higher service levels, better restaurant, make it more of a destination.
Offer drinks and food on the range and putting green
Entertainment would be fun for my family, which Top Golf would have done.
Bunkers on the course need redoing. Night golf would be great. Driving range could be more enjoyable.
Clubhouse needs to be enhanced. The entire Lakes is outdated.
The Lakes has it all.
I wouldn't mind having the indoor part of the restaurant have some nicer tables and decor, but otherwise I would
keep it low -key and mellow, like it is. Casual is part of its charm and attractiveness!
Better staffing to much family and personal issues in place of business
Ball are too distance limited
I'd more often pay to practice on a good sized and well kept chipping area than play 9 holes.
better parking, inventory in pro shop ... for #8 as a tax payer we've already paid for the Lakes so pricing should
cover the on -going costs versus make a profit. If you improve the facility then price to recover the investment and
when the investment is paid for use the profits to reinvest in the facility not skim the money off for something else.
Restaurant and shop layout makes less visible to customers.
Restroom on tee 4.
The limited flight range balls are bad, they don't spin like real golf balls making it hard to judge shot quality &
improvement. Improve the netting at the back of the range and put in standard practice balls, with adequate
netting in the back it should be pretty difficult for anyone to carry it out of the range area.
new mats on the driving range
More targets on the range to support actual distance control training
Pro shop and resturaunt are maintained, but fairways are spotty.
Bigger chipping and sand practice facilities. Signage with distances to flags on the range.
Fewer people who have no edicate on golfing
Change to Top Golf, and upgrade the Course
Any chance lights could be put in on the golf course so we could play at night?
Truer flight golf balls
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Better food and beverage selection especially local craft beers which are readily available. The facilities need to
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be refreshed and brought up to a standard which would encourage non-golfers to make use of the hospitality
facilities. The standard shouldn't be among golf courses, but instead hospitality and recreation in general - local
restaurants, hotels, etc.
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I'd like to see more space provided to the putting green and chipping area. This area is cramped. The layout of
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Family activities
Real grass driving range area (OK, I'm dreaming).
Better balls
A big chipping area
Better range balls
A LIGHTED GOLF COURSE!!!!
TOP GOLF
Driving range: any way to hit off the turf? Restaurant: food choices could be enhanced if you want to move
beyond Grill -type food, but the grill food is pretty good for what it is. Not sure how big the kitchen is to
accommodate any expansion.
Service, service, service. Given the city's financial situation, do what is responsible !
Real Grass on the driving range
more youth classes and lessons offered to ESMS and ESHS students
As my son uses the golf course consistently, our family and guests often use it also. I would hate to see The
Lakes turn into anything like that of'Top Golf as it does not speak to the local use of the golf course. I would like
to see more encouragement of junior players so to keep it alive and going with local residents.
Need a "real" restroom out on the green- not a port-a- pottie, and a water stand with cups.
not sure
Upgraded with great kids camps, lessons and restaurant
Utilize rangers on the course to speed play. Offer free golf in lieu of salary.
I love the Lakes!!@ my kids grew up there. It's one of the last family friendly places in the South Bay where I feel
safe letting my kids be kids and play a sport!
25, 50 and 75 yard lines or targets
I like it the way it is. Not much else is needed to satisfy a true golfer.
Upgrade the bathroom! If women don't like the bathroom at the facility, they assume the kitchen is equally
antiquated, etc.
Night golf
Better tee boxes
Do not want TOP GOLF
Have Top Golf enhance in entirety The Lakes as a top flight venue to go to for golf!
None! Please don't change a thing!!
Better chipping are
My family loves The Lakes. The kids have worked with many of the pros and love the safety and comfort of a
'local' place. The only complaint is that the range balls are in poor condition..... need new balls all around.
None. I love it the way that it is.
Renovate bathrooms
indoor video practice range
The Lakes is awesome. We have been using the facilities, taking lessons there and attending camps there for 5
years and cannot imagine not having this wonderful place for us to use.
Better bathrooms Better food New facility
I'd like to see The Lakes expanded, lengthened, to either include a back 9 or convert the existing short 9 to a full
length 9.
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Current restaurant seems very under - utilized. If there was a restaurant - perhaps run by one of the successful
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restauranteurs in the area (Zislis or /Simms) - in the club house with a larger banquet room, serving lunch and
dinner - Maybe not even every night to start - I think many people would come and hang around with their
families at dinner time or lunch / dinner on the weekends and summer. I am at the Lakes 2 -3 times per week
around dinner time. It would be great to go out or order take out from there. Very convenient and gives a family
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Access to state of the art video bays and screens. Not for the instructors but for people to rent hourly. I would
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rather work on my game alone than listen to the "babysitter / teaching professionals." Furthermore, this facility
has become a day -care center. SUV driving mothers in yoga pants chatting with one another while their
obnoxious children run around screaming and crying, while the "babysitter" masquerades as a golf instructor. The
location of this facility is ideal for Manhattan Beach residents, who have no other local golf options. Even
members of Victoria or LACC type clubs would still come practice here if the facilities were more reasonable. A
golfer who cares about the extra couple dollars of cost per bucket, or who considers that golf course their home
track, is probably not a source of revenue the Lakes should be worried about losing. Charge us more and give us
a real golf facility. You will bring wealthy Manhattan Beach residents into the pro shop to buy equipment etc. I'd
be there everyday if there was a grass range and short game facility. An arcade style driving range is a horrible
idea. There won't ever be return customers. Those places are expensive and you still wind up hitting fake balls
off mats. Hitting fake balls off mats is worthless practice that no self- respecting golfer wants to waste time on.
The lakes is better off blowing up the course and upgrading the practice facilities. Get rid of the hooligans in cut -
offjeans and tattoos, make room for the wealthier money- spending customers by providing a more legitimate golf
facility, not some stupid arcade /golf concept that never works anywhere ever. Wow, in reading question 8, 1 can
only assume the Lakes is losing money or at best breaking even. That is downright pathetic given its phenom
location. This should be a cash cow. I was just at Oak Creek (Irvine) GRASS driving range last weekend, they
charge $20+ for a bucket of range balls and $10 for beers, and the range was so packed you had to wait for a
stall.
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It is what it is - a small 9 -hole short course with a driving range that offers lessons. It fulfills a need for the public
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demand for golf in the area. I use the driving range on a regular basis and find it to be more than adequate for my
needs. Also, whether night or day, I always feels safe and comfortable at the facility.
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25% golf balls. If this was put into effect obviously we would need to install more protective netting around the
range. Also the restaurant could be better if it didn't just cater for golfers but also catered to outside customers,
families or couples who are just looking for a good meal. Since it is such a great setting for a meal a top
restaurant would be a great source of revenue.
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The Lakes is now located on a very upscale corridor - that is only going to increase. If the City can lease the
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facility, the facility can be substantially upgraded, and make more money than the city currently is (with some
appreciation built in) the facility should be upgraded to take advantage of the wealth in the area as well as
different recreational uses for the site beyond golf. I don't know for sure but I doubt that the current city resident
use can sustain the capital improvements needed to keep the facility viable long -term. Long -term, a big upgrade
(that the City doesn't have to directly pay for) would provide a higher value to the residents and City through real
estate appreciation. It would also create a safe, fun recreational area that hopefully is more attractive for a wide
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Update the menu. Cover the patio with shading material to avoid having to sit in direct sun during the day.
Advertise more. Offer more "packages ". Try to find another -300 yards to lengthen the course and make it a
"rated" course.
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greater South Bay and the southwestern portions of Los Angeles County. One way to do this is to have golf
tournaments for all ages on a continuing basis. Currently the only consistent tournaments are the well organized
junior tournaments by Josh Alpert. Who is the current Lakes course champion? Senior men's champion, Senior
ladies champion, Putting tournaments with various age categories in the evenings could be very popular - maybe
have snacks after in the cafe as part of an entry fee. For adults the entry fee (less costs and snacks) could go into
a cash pot going to the top two finishers. Consider a golf specific fitness facility. Consider a golf training facility
with the latest technology like trackman and video. Consider an incentive based operating agreement - send
RFPs to the leading golf course management companies (maybe send to leading management companies for
public recreation facilities like Sports Facilities Advisory / Sports Facility Management with main offices in
Clearwater, FL) Some are saying it will be difficult to improve the Lakes facilities and financial performance
because "golf is in a down market." I say this is only the case if there is little or no creativity applied to making
improvements. Regarding question 6 below: an incentive based operator should have significant pricing flexibility
- the pricing structure needs to be based on the market and the quality of the services being provided - if the
facility is superior to all others and the market wants to pay for this then the pricing structure may be higher than
other local municipal golf facilities. The market will say if the structure is acceptable. The operator needs to be
able to maximize their profits so the have incentive to make the facility the best it can be and provide services that
satisfy and excite all patrons.
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Would love for it to make money for the City. Top Golfwould be an excellent choice for this
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an updated, entertainment facility would be great! I welcome Top Golf!
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Better range mats or have them changed more frequently.
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A porta potty around the 7th tee box. Clean up the weeds etc. on the north side of #8 green so golfers are not
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spending so much time looking for lost balls that roll off.
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Upgrade the quality of the golf balls at the range. The balls used are distance - regulated and do not fly the normal
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distance nor the normal ball flight. I also think the chipping green and bunker need upgrading. Currently, with the
operating contract being up in the air, many small items of maintenance are being let go.
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Less kids programs that take over majority of the putting green way too often. Enforce the no chipping on the mail
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group golf lessons and clinics.
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Don't build a Top Golf. Places like that are for drunks and yahoos and the south bay has plenty of those already.
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Top Golf a Must ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
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1 like the driving range. It is easy to get up to the top which is where I practice.
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just keeping the course in good shape and the driving range. No "enhancements" needed
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The restaurant and banquet room.
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A grass hitting area for range balls would be great and you could charge more for hitting balls in this area.
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It's a nice facility. But it's used by only a few. More could be done with it. I feel the residents and particularly
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family's in el Segundo don't use it like they should. The driving range could appear to families if it had a make
over which would appear to entire families. The high school should have a gold team and The Lakes (The City of
El Segundo) should support this.
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None. I like it as it is.
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there are some things that could be spruced up.. but the grounds, flowers, are beautiful... love seeing the Hawks
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and the geese ... it is fabulous early morning..just make sure it stays family friendly ....
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It is a great facility and serves all who use it very well.
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business /client engagements there.
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Better balls would bring a lot more business to the facilities. I realize it might be a challenge with the other side of
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the net.
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None. Why you would want to change something which has been such a treasure, for so many years, is beyond
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I'd like the planning commission to stay out of it! Despite the chipping area's limited space, the place is great as it
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The golf course is a bit better than average, considering the limited funding it receives, and the fact that it is
essentially a par -3 course. The pro shop is a bit stale, and tends to stock overpriced and often out-of -date
equipment. Honestly, it is tough to compete with Golfsmith and other golf retailers, as well as sporting goods
stores, such as Dicks and Sports Authority. For me, the restaurant is the big thing - it is a diamond in the rough.
It's not necessarily run poorly right now, but could be run a LOT better. Our family (wife, 2 kids) often eats at the
restaurant because it is such a great location, with the view of the pond and course. My wife and I often comment
on how much MORE money could be made if the restaurant were polished up and targeted more weddings, large
parties and corporate events. That's a strong revenue for profit and anyone with any kind of business sense
should be able to see the potential. Thanks for reading my comments.:)
app-based purchasing of driving balls
Nothing. It is fine the way it is.
I'd like a place to hang out and practice before and after gold and work
NOT the new concept emphasizing liquor and electronic games.
1 like it just the way it is. I hope stays that way. The last thing Gundo needs is a 'Top Golf' type facility.
Top Golf.
More events like concerts for non - golfers. The food is good but the menus and decor is old.
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Subsidized by the City (Priority on the service) 11.10%
Break -even for the City (Cost/Expense Neutral) 52.74%
Profitable for the City (Producing excess revenue for other City needs) 22.20%
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& Parks Department?
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Q10 Overall, how satisfied are you with The
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1 It is an affordable get away for our family
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3 1 can only comment on the restaurant, as I am not a golfer.
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4 I'm not a golfer.
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6 Too expensive
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7 The management, pros, staff, cafeteria, and groundskeepers are excellent! Very much appreciated.
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8 i do not golf - and encouraging physical activity is a good thing. likely this course is used by many who work
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(though they may not live here) in el segundo and should continue
9 1 think bringing Top Golf would be a great improvement.
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10 Golf course only
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11 Would be a shame to turn the Lakes into a profit center.... We like the neighborhood feel!
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13 1 love the Lakes and would be lost without it
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14 This place is important and a wonderful place to practice.
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I have a couple great memories at the Lakes and I hope to expand on them.
Please don't turn it into a "Dave & Busters" with a big lawn.
Only been to the driving range once. It was fine
My husband likes that we have this in town. It makes ES that more special.
I'm not happy with the thought of ES making such a big investment then willing to hand it over to another party for
a pittance.
Bring top golf
Do not let the golf course become "Top Golf'.
Never been. Not a golfer.
I am happy with the current arrangement. I think Top Golf would not be attractive
This is not an entertainment venue
I have two young girls they love coming here hitting balls & putting. If this facility is replaced by TopGolf I feel El
Segundo will lose a great family & community facility where families can fo to play golf /learn the game of golf
Excellent course V. friendly staff:-) V. pleasant surroundings
Excellent course V. friendly staff:-) V. pleasant surroundings
Excellent course V. friendly staff:-) V. pleasant surroundings
with the golf course only
I enjoy The Lakes everytime I visit. It is great to have a family friendly range and 9 -hole course in the area. The
affordability is great for local golfers to improve their games.
Josh Alpert and the Kids programming, classes, and camps are great.
it is an important installation in the area and is much nicer than - say - westchester. KEEP IT!!
I love this facility and practice at it at least weekly.
The Lakes provides a unique asset for El Segundo that would be difficult to replicate today.
staff is always professional and friendly. leave it as is. Top Golf will ruin this venue.
nothing has been doen over the last 2 -3 years to improve even marginally the facility, new mats, balls , paint etc
Really hoping that Top Golf goes through so our family can enjoy the entertainment offering that they will bring.
The Lakes is a wonderful little course enjoyed by many people in the South Bay (as well as travelers). It should
stay the way it is ...
It is not supposed to make money. As an El Segundo resident I enjoy using it and feel it adds a lot to the
community. For those that think it should generate revenue, should the library also be sub leased to Barnes and
Noble?
Very nice, short 9 -hole; well -kempt
PRICE IS IMPORTANT CONSIDERING ITS A 9 -HOLE SHORT COURSE.
Scott and his staff are great
good local golf course
wish it could be better — it's a great concept
It is a safe, afforable, convenient location for our youth and community at large.
As a Hermosa Beach resident, I do NOT want to lose this driving range! Because of land prices, there are already
too few options in this category. Your facility is good.......,. not great, but good and that's better than most in the
area.
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It is a great place for families to practice and play. It is convenient and offers good lessons, camps and other
4/11/2015 5:50 PM
events.
There are very few golf courses in the area. Our area suffers from an incredible lack of golf courses and to lose
4/11/2015 1:32 PM
another one would be a disaster.
Could need new improvements
4/11/2015 10:34 AM
This facility is special and family oriented.
4/11/2015 9:56 AM
the golf course is challenging and beautiful
4/10/2015 5:47 PM
I live in Manhattan Beach, I use it for it's convenient location, not because it's a great place to go.
4/10/2015 5:14 PM
I understand that the Lakes may be taken over by another group to drive income for the city. My concern is that
4/10/2015 3:48 PM
this practice of revenue generation for the city on Parks and Rec facilities sets a bad precednece. Will this
happen to Brett Field? Campus El Segundo? As the fees increase at the Lakes, I will be using other facilities.
The teaching programs at the legs are absolutely superb Josh Alpert in particular has been an excellent teacher
4/10/2015 2:41 PM
for many members of our family.
Great little course. Good driving range and great putting green
4/10/2015 12:43 PM
I love the Lakes at el Segundo and value it as a Parks and Rec facility. My kids spend time there and I love that
4/9/2015 11:22 PM
they have this opportunity. We often play a round of golf in the evenings with our kids who are 7 and 10. It would
be even better if the amenities such as the restaurant and bar was upgraded a bit and offered more to the public
in terms of opportunity to eat there as a family. We would support this often. We love the small, quiet feel there.
Also, the management of the facility seems to lack luster in terms of fixing things in a timely manner (bathrooms),
and keeping the amenities current.
I don't believe that we have the best management team operating The Lakes and it is getting run -down.
4/9/2015 9:40 PM
Should not become Top Golf. Not necessary here.
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Love it here. Leave it alone
4/9/2015 4:41 PM
One of the best, most comfortable places in the South Bay
4/9/2015 4:39 PM
I do not want to see "Top Golf at this facility. This is a family course and needs to stay that way.
4/9/2015 4:32 PM
Management & operations should be outsourced.
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TOP GOLF is the perfect "Vision" for The Lakes!
4/9/2015 3:52 PM
Great to have a place to play and learn golf so close to my home
4/9/2015 3:19 PM
I am not an El Segundo resident but residents should get a discount. I am a member of the El Segund Ladies Golf
4/9/2015 3:05 PM
Club and week in and week out on Thursday the course is always well maintained, the greens some of the best
in S.California, and the pro shop staff and grounds keepers friendly.
Where are the choices for alternatives to who should own /manage The Lakes?
4/9/2015 12:43 PM
This survey is very bias. The Lakes is fine for older citizens, but the younger generation like my son will never try
4/9/2015 9:24 AM
this sport or spend money here.
It's extremely outdated.
4/9/2015 8:20 AM
So loves it
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The Lakes is a unique entity that provides a social and physical outlet.
4/9/2015 6:23 AM
I am satisfied with the Lakes being the Lakes. I will be dissatisfied if El Segundo prioritizes money- making for this
4/8/2015 10:36 PM
facility and turns it into a golf "show ".
It's a great place for my son (13) and all of his friends to golf. In the summer they golf there almost every day!
4/8/2015 6:17 PM
It seems to be run like any other city program - not really profit or quality focus as opposed to just getting buy
4/8/2015 6:00 PM
Do not let the entertainment company in please.
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Casual, friendly, easy, reasonably priced, well run. Leave it as it is.
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I think it should be adapted to meet the needs of our changing South Bay communities (El Segundo and
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surrounding) and should at least be break -even for the city if not a revenue generator. It seems to be in a time
warp while the region is evolving.
The Lakes is a great golf facility for all ages and that will be lost if it is turned into an entertainment - focused
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facility
Don't golf there too often anymore
4/8/2015 12:55 PM
It serves its purpose but there is much untapped potential and it leaves a lot to be desired
4/8/2015 12:10 PM
The Lakes overall is pleasant environment to practice golf, and it would be shame to move to Top Golf. I have
4/8/2015 12:06 PM
been to Top Golf in Tampa and I cannot see that format being successful in El Segundo.
It's an asset to the City. It should be owned and maintained by the City.
4/8/2015 11:18 AM
It is wonderful. Please don't change it to Top Golf.
4/8/2015 11:16 AM
Between Satisfied and Very Satisfied. Is a pretty good practice facility for a high density city area.
4/8/2015 11:04 AM
Nice to have open /recreational space with the growing development around it.
4/8/2015 10:34 AM
haven't played ther much lately, but the greens are very well maintained. Best executive size courses round. 1
4/8/2015 10:30 AM
would play more if I lived closer.
Since it's the only decent range in the area and I'm an avid golfer, it's great to have it so close.
4/8/2015 10:23 AM
If I lived closer I would definitely play and use it much more often, Player clubs and other "membership" perks
4/8/2015 10:19 AM
should always be a part of a club like the Lakes, it will attract more local golfers from West LA to the South Bay to
play and use the facilities more often..
Friendly, neighborhood gathering place for nearby residents. Good food, reasonable family destination. Beautiful
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green space.
I'm a beginning golfer that enjoys learning at this course. I would like it to stay a "real" golf course.
4/8/2015 6:38 AM
it has a very convient location
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We love it. A wonderful community asset.
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Love the family and local atmosphere
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It would be nice to have a drink and something to eat at a reasonable price.
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The kids camps have been wonderful throughout the years and my kids have a wonderful time. The instructors
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are very friendly and helpful. The wait staff in the restaurant are also excellent.
A wonderful family friendly atmosphere that I can leave my children at without worrying. They have been going
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there since they were toddlers.
rarely play there, the kids call it'the waits' Bring in Top Golf
4/7/2015 10:01 PM
PLEASE don't convert the current facility. Please remember, the City's biggest employers bring a significant
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number of non - residents to all of your establishments daily. Consider what is valuable to non - residents, too.
Traditional golf has endured hundred of years and teaches honorable core values that build up society; arcade
entertainment venues are comparatively short lived and don't foster the same values.
The City needs to invest in this asset before it falls completely apart.
4/7/2015 7:06 PM
Please keep The Lakes as a regular golf course. No Top Golf.
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The Lakes is an Oasis in the Southbay it could be operated to provide a profit for the city but not under the current
4/7/2015 5:06 PM
operators and manager who do not appear to have any desire to improve the property just take their paycheck
from the city and thats it
It's a very nice and close facility for me to practice at every week
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The Lakes is a great family amenity that is great for kids and provides the family values that makes El segundo a
very desirable place to live. Do not replace it with a facility that relies on heavy alcohol sales and partying while
pretending to be about golf.
I am not always satisfied with El Segundo's Parks and Rec department.
I learned to golf on this course
It is a great little course, really good for beginners and other limited capability golfers (super seniors). The greens
staff seem very capable and the course conditions are remarkably good for this little short course, better than
Penmar.
It is a great local golf course and facility for the families and kids in the Manhattan and El Segundo areas. I have
seen various ages of people there over the years that we have been using The Lakes and would like to see a bit
of a cosmetic make over to the main building but the course itself and other greens are great. Going to a Top Golf
program would not be a good thing for the local spirit.
I think this a fantastic facility, but as an executive course, should be priced lower.
DO NOT WANT TOP GOLF
Satisfied with The Lakes, but not really satisfied with the City Recreation & Parks' leadership, which could be
delegated in a more profit- motivated way.
We are there practicing or playing almost 7 days a week so we are extremely happy with the Lakes as it is!!
Could be a lot better
It is a jewel of a course..... especially for the locals!
Please do not turn it into another drinking /bowling alley type place.
The course and facilities are average, I worry that having a city organization running things will degrade quality
like LA city courses which seem happy to routinely raise prices without improving the course.
My children participate in lessons and camps at this facility. It is a perfect addition to our community. It would be
a shame to lose any part of it.
The Lakes is one of the only facilities in Southern California that focuses on developing junior golfers and growing
the game. It is a fantastic facility and serves a critical need in the community.
Great place to take my 12 year old son to play golf!! Love The Lakes!!!
If the place was nice, I would spend more money at the facility
love the convenience, price and support for junior golf. but facility is outdated, i would pay more for improved
facilities
Extremely unsatisfied. This place could be so much better.
I basically learned how to play golf at the lakes. It is where I picked up my first golf club and found my passion for
the game. Now, being a competitive junior golfer, I utlize the facilities at the lakes basically every weekday. It has
been a great place for me to connect and socialize wiith not just my friends from the high school team, but also
families from all over the South Bay. I have created life long friendships with all of the teaching pros as well. The
lakes is cur rentals a satisfactory practice facility but could easily up its status if it improved a few things such as
better balls and a bigger and more extensive shirt game facility.
I don't need to see any need to change the facility other than to maintain it as is (with the exception of the
bunker /sand area that needs improvement). It's a great little facility and the City of El Segundo should be proud of
what it has to offer to the public.
Make it cheap for beach city kids to use, have adults make the place break even on exspences.
it's a nice facility and a convenient place for locals to play golf.
Greens are always in really good shape!!!
I would hate to see a place I enjoy taking my kids turn into a sports bar. They are getting into the sport, and we'd
be very opposed to any changes that don't keep real golf as the focus there.
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I used to work in professional golf course management. With a stronger partner, the city, its residents and other
golf course guests could benefit from an even better facility and services. I have seen the TopGolf presentations
and have scrutinized their financial projections - having worked in the business for nearly twenty years, I do not
find them credible. Let's keep working to improve the great facility we have - more inspired management could be
a huge step forward.
The Lakes is a wonderful community asset. Let's make it better! Don't give it away to TopGolf!!!
This is a facility that is the envy of all the surrounding area. Please don't mess it up!
We feel very strongly that this golf course is a very important enhancement to the community. Any changes to the
course as it is can very easily take away from the wholesomeness of the community in general. Also it is
important to introduce children to an authentic golf experience so the are lovers of the game forever and not to
give into some strange golf fad that will not allow them to learn about golf as it is actually played. That is very
damaging to the future of the game.
I love playing at the Lakes. It's a challenging course and I use the restaurant part of the time but would use it
more if there was more food that appealed to me.
Please don't bring in that "mickey mouse" golf concept as previously proposed by the City
Facilities renovation.
Satisfied, but it can be so much more with clearly defined objectives and an incentive based operating agreement
with a leading management company that has a demonstrated track record of creatively operating their facilites at
peak performance.
There aren't any places nearby were you can play a challenging short game of golf.
I come here because the range balls are cheap, you can always find an open stall, and is relatively peaceful.
Love it, its a great family oriented facility.
Overall, the existing facility is very good. The golf balls should be changed and the putting /chipping area
upgraded, but no major changes are required. A shift to the Top Golf "sports bar" concept would be a disaster.
The city would lose a wonderful, family- oriented facility in the pursuit of the almighty dollar. I don't believe any
other Parks and Rec facility is expected to be a profit center for the city.
Should not be city owned
No reason to change a good thing.
It is very important to me and other retirees who live nearby to have nearby access to an affordable golf facility
where we can play and practice nearly every day.
The Lakes is a local gem for all ages the way it is.
I think that if there's going to be a discount, it should be a Southbay discount vs just el Segundo
Would be great if could extend some of the holes
This is a GREAT facility that meets my needs very well. More importantly it meets the needs of junior golfers very
well.
Top golf Pis
If Top Golf takes The Lakes over, I will never use the facility again.
As long as you don't make it into some elaborate thing with beer and wine and etc it is fine
The Lakes is the best golf practice /training facility in the S. Bay. It serves a real need and should continue to be
operated in that capacity.
Great environment for kids and family for golf. Junior golf programs are great.
Regarding #8) 1 would like to see the city make money off the course but not at the expense of the golfers, See
comment #4.
1 spend $800 per month on indtruction and over $200 dollars a month on balls. I will take my business elsewhere
if this course becomes a private business venture. We are completely against privatizing this course for many
reasons and will voice our concerns publically at the city council meeting if required.
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1 am very impressed that the Lakes is a haven for the area's wildlife. It is a beautiful place to be. The
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The Lakes provides the most convenient and nicest facility for the beach cities.
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It is a resonably priced golf course, convenient to many people. I don't think the area needs another
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"entertainment" venue, oriented around drinking etc ,
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The Lakes is a great place to play a par three nine holes. It is a nice local facility. Keep it the way it is.
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1 golf all over So Cal and the Lakes is a gem. Because of the Lakes I have shopped & dined in ES.Aiscovered ES
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The Lake is a park, by definition. Parks are not necessarily designed to be profitable. However, I do think there
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Q11 What is your age?
Answered: 850 Skipped; 15
Under 18
18 to 29 1
30 to 44
Responses
45 to 59
60 to 74
75 or older
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3.65%
31
Under 18
3.65%
31
18 to 29
30 to 44
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179
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320
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30.00%
255
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Redondo Beach
Torrance
Hermosa Beach 0
Los Angeles
Q12 In what city do you live?
>.nswered:767 Skipped: 98
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El Segundo
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301
Manhattan Beach
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226
Redondo Beach
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86
Torrance
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56
Hermosa Beach
6.39%
49
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# Other (please specify)
Date
1 Lived in Manhattan beach for 35 yrs
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2 Westchester
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3 Playa del Rey
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4 Westchester
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5 Santa Monica
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6 Where did you get my email address?
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Playa Del Rey
Fullerton
Westchester
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playa del rey
turning it lover to top golf would permanently destroy the practice golf facility, balls would be prohibitively
expensive
Playa Del Rey
RPV
Culver City
Keep as is. Great place
Del Aire
Glendale
Hawthorne
Palos Verdes
Rancho Palos Verdes
San Pedro - I use the Lakes while my son is at hockey practice at TSC in El Segundo
Rolling Hills Estates
Palos Verdes
Rancho Palos Verdes
Palos Verdes
Rancho Palos Verdes
Pasadena
palos verdes
Palos Verdes Estates
San Pedro, but only work 1/4 mile from the course
Palos Verdes Estates
Pv
RPV
Rolling Hills Estates
Palos Verdes, I work in El Segundo
PVE
Lomita
playa del rey
Culver City
Carson
Rancho Palos Verdes
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Gardena
Lomita
Palos Verdes Estates
I will fight any developers for a takeover of the lakes. I want Dave Atkinson to head straight to jail if he has been
manipulating a yay for top golf.
I will fight any developers for a takeover of the lakes. I want Dave Atkinson to head straight to jail if he has been
manipulating a yay for top golf.
Palos Verdes
Palos Verdes
Rancho Palos Verdes
Palos Verdes Estates
Marina del Rey
Palos Verdes
Rancho Palos Verdes
Our entire family uses THe Lakes
Culver City
Long Beach
Rancho Palos Verdes
palos verdes
Palos Verdes
MARINA DEL REY
Lakewood
Rancho Palos Verdes
Culver city
westchester
Gardena
Norwalk
Seal Beach
The Lakes is a special place. I practice there, my kids take lessons and do programs there. It is a safe and family
friendly place and I appreciate that. Could be better than it is. No TopGolf PleaseM
Del aire
The Lakes is a great family and community golf course. With some TLC from those who run the place it could be
the best in the state. I have a problem with the handicap stall in the men's bathroom being closed for 2 months at
a public facility. It is an example of the kinds of broken windows that hold the place back.
Hawthorne
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The financial success of a City rests in large part on the amenities, the beauty, of its non - business amenities. The
Lakes no doubt provide economic benefit far in excess of what the course itself may or may not provide
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Cardin
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CITY OF EL SEGUNDO
PAYMENTS BY WIRE TRANSFER
4/6/15 THROUGH 4/19/15
Date
Payee
Amount
Description
4/6/2015
Pitney Bowes
1,000.00
Postage for Library
4/7/2015
Cal Pers
464,437.87
EFT Health Payment
4/10/2015
Health Comp
2,516.09
Weekly claims
4/10/2015
West Basin
1,486,321.78
H2O payment
4/10/2015
Manufacturers & Traders
39,580.26
457 payment Vantagepoint
4/10/2015
Manufacturers & Traders
477.31
ROTH IRA payment Vantagepoint
4/10/2015
Manufacturers & Traders
5,356.55
401 payment Vantagepoint
4/10/2015
US Bank - Trust Acct
6,794.26
PARS payment
4/10/2015
South Bay Credit Union
11,980.38
Payroll credit union deduction pmt
4/10/2015
Nationwide NRS EFT
39,502.00
EFT 457 payment
4/10/2015
Nationwide NRS EFT
1,730.59
EFT 401a payment
4/10/2015
State of CA EFT
1,229.14
EFT Child support payment
4/13/2015
IRS
235,086.73
Federal 941 Deposit
4/13/2015
Employment Development
3,347.61
State SDI payment
4/13/2015
Employment Development
48,024.48
State PIT Withholding
4/15/2015
Cal Pers
103,087.05
EFT Retirement Misc
4/15/2015
Cal Pers
278,951.51
EFT Retirement Safety
4/15/2015
Cal Pers
1,488.80
EFT Retirement Safety- Police
4/15/2015
Cal Pers
11,162.43
EFT Retirement Misc
4/16/2015
Lane Donovan Golf Ptr
19,796.33
Payroll Transfer
4/17/2015
Health Comp
2,914.88
Weekly claims
4/4/15 - 4/10/15
Workers Comp Activity
25,891.99
SCRMA checks issued
4/11/15 - 4/17/15
Workers Comp Activity
43,853.81
SCRMA checks issued
2,834,531.85
DATE OF RATIFICATION: 4/20/15
TOTAL PAYMENTS BY WIRE:
2,834,531.85
Certified as to the accuracy of the wire transfers by:
Information on actual expenditures is available in the City Treasurer's Office of the City of El Segundo.
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SPECIAL MEETING OF THE EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL
TUESDAY, APRIL 14, 2015 7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER — Mayor Fuentes at 7:00 PM
ROLL CALL
Mayor Fuentes -
Present
Mayor Pro Tern Jacobson -
Present
Council Member Atkinson -
Present
Council Member Fellhauer -
Present
Council Member Dugan -
Present
PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS - (Related to City Business Only - 5 minute limit per person, 30
minute limit total). Individuals who have received value of $50 or more to communicate to the City
Council on behalf of another, and employees speaking on behalf of their employer, must so identify
themselves before addressing the City Council. Failure to do so is a misdemeanor and punishable
by a fine of $250.
SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS:
Mayor Fuentes announced that Council would be meeting in closed session pursuant to the items
listed on the Agenda.
CLOSED SESSION:
The City Council may move into a closed session pursuant to applicable law, including the Brown
Act (Government Code Section §54960, et seq.) for the purposes of conferring with the City's Real
Property Negotiator; and /or conferring with the City Attorney on potential and /or existing litigation;
and /or discussing matters covered under Government Code Section §54957 (Personnel); and /or
conferring with the City's Labor Negotiators; as follows:
CONFERENCE WITH CITY'S LABOR NEGOTIATOR (Gov't Code §54957.6):-8- matters
Employee Organizations: Police Management Association; Police Officers
Association; Police Support Services Employees Association; Fire Fighters
Association; Supervisory and Professional Employees Association; Employees
Association; Executive Management (unrepresented employees);
Management/Confidential (unrepresented employees)
Agency Designated Representative: City Manager and Steve Filarsky
ADJOURNMENT at 8:45 PM
Tracy Weaver, City Clerk
MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
APRIL 14, 2015
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SPECIAL MEETING OF THE EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL
TUESDAY, APRIL 21, 2015 —4:30 PM
4:30 P.M. SESSION
CALL TO ORDER — Mayor Fuentes at 4:30 PM
ROLL CALL
Mayor Fuentes -
Present
Mayor Pro Tem Jacobson -
Present
Council Member Atkinson -
Present
Council Member Fellhauer -
Present
Council Member Dugan -
Present
PUBLIC COMMUNICATION — (Related to City Business Only — 5 minute limit per
person, 30 minute limit total) Individuals who have received value of $50 or more to
communicate to the City Council on behalf of another, and employees speaking on
behalf of their employer, must so identify themselves prior to addressing the City
Council. Failure to do so shall be a misdemeanor and punishable by a fine of $250.
SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS:
Mayor Fuentes announced that Council would be meeting in closed session pursuant to
the items listed on the Agenda.
CLOSED SESSION:
The City Council may move into a closed session pursuant to applicable law, including
the Brown Act (Government Code Section §54960, et seq.) for the purposes of
conferring with the City's Real Property Negotiator; and /or conferring with the City
Attorney on potential and /or existing litigation; and /or discussing matters covered under
Government Code Section §54957 (Personnel); and /or conferring with the City's Labor
Negotiators; as follows:
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — EXISTING LITIGATION (Gov't Code
§54956.9(d) (3): -3- matters
1. City of El Segundo vs. City of Los Angeles, et.al. LASC Case No. BS094279
2. Hooper vs. City of El Segundo, LASC Case No. BC 540995
3. Leigh vs. City of El Segundo, WCAB Case Nos. ADJ8854385, ADJ8853319 and
ADJ8854384.
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
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Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to Government Code §54956.9(d) (2) and (3):
-2- matter.
Initiation of litigation pursuant to Government Code §54956.9(d)(4): -2- matter.
DISCUSSION OF PERSONNEL MATTERS (Gov't Code §54957): -0- matter
APPOINTMENT OF PUBLIC EMPLOYEE (Gov't. Code § 54957): -0- matter
PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT (Gov't Code § 54957) -0- matter
CONFERENCE WITH CITY'S LABOR NEGOTIATOR (Gov't Code §54957.6):-8-
matters
Employee Organizations: Police Management Association; Police Officers
Association; Police Support Services Employees Association; Fire Fighters
Association; Supervisory and Professional Employees Association; City
Employees Association; Executive Management Group (Unrepresented Group);
Management/Confidential Group (Unrepresented Group)
Agency Designated Representative: Steve Filarsky and City Manager
CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR (Gov't Code §54956.8): -0-
matters
ADJOURNMENT AT 6:55 PM
Tracy Weaver, City Clerk
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REGULAR MEETING OF THE EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL
TUESDAY, APRIL 21, 2015 — 5:00 PM
5:00 P.M. SESSION
CALL TO ORDER — Mayor Fuentes at 5:02 PM
ROLL CALL
Mayor Fuentes -
Present
Mayor Pro Tern Jacobson -
Present
Council Member Atkinson -
Present
Council Member Fellhauer -
Present
Council Member Dugan -
Present
PUBLIC COMMUNICATION — (Related to City Business Only — 5 minute limit per
person, 30 minute limit total) Individuals who have received value of $50 or more to
communicate to the City Council on behalf of another, and employees speaking on
behalf of their employer, must so identify themselves prior to addressing the City
Council. Failure to do so shall be a misdemeanor and punishable by a fine of $250.
SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS:
Mayor Pro Tern Jacobson announced that Council would be meeting in closed session
pursuant to the items listed on the Agenda.
CLOSED SESSION:
The City Council may move into a closed session pursuant to applicable law, including
the Brown Act (Government Code Section §54960, et seq.) for the purposes of
conferring with the City's Real Property Negotiator; and /or conferring with the City
Attorney on potential and /or existing litigation; and /or discussing matters covered under
Government Code Section §54957 (Personnel); and /or conferring with the City's Labor
Negotiators; as follows:
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — EXISTING LITIGATION (Gov't Code
§54956.9(d) (3): -3- matters
1. City of El Segundo vs. City of Los Angeles, et.al. LASC Case No. BS094279
2. Hooper vs. City of El Segundo, LASC Case No. BC 540995
3. Leigh vs. City of El Segundo, WCAB Case Nos. ADJ8854385, ADJ8853319 and
ADJ8854384.
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
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Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to Government Code §54956.9(d) (2) and (3):
-2- matter.
Initiation of litigation pursuant to Government Code §54956.9(d)(4): -1- matter.
DISCUSSION OF PERSONNEL MATTERS (Gov't Code §54957): -0- matter
APPOINTMENT OF PUBLIC EMPLOYEE (Gov't. Code § 54957): -0- matter
PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT (Gov't Code § 54957) -0- matter
CONFERENCE WITH CITY'S LABOR NEGOTIATOR (Gov't Code §54957.6):-8-
matters
Employee Organizations: Police Management Association; Police Officers
Association; Police Support Services Employees Association; Fire Fighters
Association; Supervisory and Professional Employees Association; City
Employees Association; Executive Management Group (Unrepresented Group);
Man agement/Confidential Group (Unrepresented Group)
Agency Designated Representative: Steve Filarsky and City Manager
CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR (Gov't Code §54956.8): -0-
matters
Council recessed to Council Chambers at 5:30 PM
El Segundo Daisy Troop #2885 presented flower pots to Council Members.
Back to closed session at 5:40 PM
Council recessed at 6:45 PM
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REGULAR MEETING OF THE EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL
TUESDAY, APRIL 21, 2015 - 7:00 P.M.
7:00 P.M. SESSION
CALL TO ORDER — Mayor Fuentes at 7:00 PM
INVOCATION — John Svendsen, Pastor, First Baptist Church
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE — Council Member Atkinson
PRESENTATIONS - None
ROLL CALL
Mayor Fuentes -
Present
Mayor Pro Tern Jacobson -
Present
Council Member Atkinson -
Present
Council Member Fellhauer -
Present
Council Member Dugan -
Present
PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS — (Related to City Business Only — 5 minute limit per
person, 30 minute limit total) Individuals who have received value of $50 or more to
communicate to the City Council on behalf of another, and employees speaking on
behalf of their employer, must so identify themselves prior to addressing the City
Council. Failure to do so shall be a misdemeanor and punishable by a fine of $250.
While all comments are welcome, the Brown Act does not allow Council to take action
on any item not on the agenda. The Council will respond to comments after Public
Communications is closed.
Mrs. Wilson, resident, invited residents to the 62nd District Republican committee meet
and greet in the Friends of the Library room at the El Segundo Public Library at 6:00 pm
on Wednesday, April 22.
Gail Church, resident and Tree Musketeers CEO, spoke concerning the draught and
our City's trees.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS — (Related to Public Communications)
Council answered questions from Public Communications
A. PROCEDURAL MOTIONS
Consideration of a motion to read all ordinances and resolutions on the Agenda by title
only.
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MOTION by Mayor Pro Tern Jacobson, SECONDED by Council Member Fellhauer to
read all ordinances and resolutions on the Agenda by title only. MOTION PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE. 5/0
B. SPECIAL ORDERS OF BUSINESS (PUBLIC HEARING)
1. Consideration and possible action to open a public hearing and receive public
testimony concerning adopting a resolution amending the Zone A preferential
parking area and include the permit fee in accordance with the El Segundo
Municipal Code ( "ESMC "). Zone A will be amended to add both curb lines in
the 1400 and 1500 blocks of East Maple Avenue, the 700 block of California
Street, and the 700 block of Washington Street. If adopted, Zone A will include
the west curb line of Washington Street between Oak Avenue to Walnut Avenue,
both curb lines of Walnut Avenue between Washington Street and Center Street,
both curb lines of Sycamore Avenue between Washington Street and California
Street (excluding the south curb line directly adjacent to the public park), both
curb lines of California Street between Acacia Avenue and Oak Avenue
(excluding the east curb line directly adjacent to the public park), and both curb
lines of Maple Avenue between California Street and Washington Street.
(Fiscal Impact: None)
Mayor Fuentes stated this was the time and place for a Public Hearing related to
adopting a resolution amending the Zone A preferential parking area and include the
permit fee in accordance with the El Segundo Municipal Code ( "ESMC ").
City Clerk Weaver stated that proper notice had been given in a timely manner and that
written communication had not been received in the City Clerk's office.
Mayor Fuentes opened the Public Hearing.
Greg Carpenter, City Manager, introduced the item.
Brian Evanski, El Segundo Police Captain, gave a presentation.
Mayor Fuentes opened the Public Hearing for Public input.
MOTION by Mayor Pro Tern Jacobson, SECONDED by Council Member Fellhauer to
close the Public Hearing. MOTION PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE. 5/0
Council Discussion
Karl Berger, Assistant City Attorney, read by title only:
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RESOLUTION NO. 4912
A RESOLUTION AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 4890 REGARDING PREFERENTIAL
PARKING AREAS WITHIN THE CITY WHERE PARKING PERMITS MAY BE USED IN
ACCORDANCE WITH EL SEGUNDO MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 8 -5A.
MOTION by Mayor Pro Tern Jacobson, SECONDED by Council Member Atkinson to
adopt Resolution No. 4912 amending Resolution No. 4890. MOTION PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE. 5/0
C. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
2. Consideration and possible action to receive and file this report regarding the
severe drought facing California and Governor Brown's recent Executive Order
and provide direction to staff on implementing additional actions to conserve
water.
(Fiscal Impact: None)
Stephanie Katsouleas, Public Works Director, gave a presentation.
Council Discussion
Stephanie Katsouleas, Public Works Director, answered
Fernando Paludi, West Basin Representative, answered Council's questions and gave
input on the situation.
Council received the report on the severe drought facing California and Governor
Brown's recent Executive Order and directed staff to draft an ordinance that complies
with the Governor's Executive Orders regarding the California drought.
D. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS
E. CONSENT AGENDA
All items listed are to be adopted by one motion without discussion and passed
unanimously. If a call for discussion of an item is made, the item(s) will be considered
individually under the next heading of business.
3. Approve Warrant Numbers 3005457 through 3005623 on Register No. 13 in the
total amount of $814,852.35 and Wire Transfers from 3/16/2015 through
4/5/2015 in the total amount of $1,589,638.16. Authorized staff to release.
Ratified Payroll and employee Benefit checks; checks released early due to
contracts or agreement; emergency disbursements and /or adjustments; and
wire transfers.
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4. Approved Special City Council Meeting Minutes of March 31, 2015 and Regular
City Council Meeting Minutes of April 7, 2015.
5. PULLED BY MAYOR PRO TEM JACOBSON
6. Award a standard Public Works Contract No. 4840 to Rojas Construction, for
Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Project 601711 -14, "Installation
of American with Disabilities Act (ADA) Sidewalk Ramp Project." Project No. PW
14 -09.
(Fiscal Impact: $48,000 in CDBG grant reimbursement funds)
7. Consideration and possible action authorizing the City Manager to execute a
standard Public Works Contract No. 4841, in a form approved by the City
Attorney to Lucas Builders, Inc. for the Sewer Main Improvement project, award
a standard Public Works Professional Services Agreement No. 4842 to AKM
Consulting Engineers for construction inspection services, approve an
additional appropriation of $21,120.00 from the General Fund for the new storm
drain catch basin and storm drain inlet and approve an additional appropriation of
$512,608.00 from Sewer Enterprise Fund for sewer main improvements.
Project No. PW 13 -24.
(Fiscal Impact: $1,533,728.00)
8. Adopt Resolution No. 4913 approving Plans and Specifications for Water Main
Improvement at Virginia, Oak and Bayonne, Project No. PW 15 -08.
(Fiscal Impact: $950,000.00 budgeted)
9. Approve and adopt South Bay Workforce Investment Board's (SBWIB) proposed
Amendment No. 7, Amendment No. 1754G to the Joint Powers Agreement No.
83 -100 approving an update to the South Bay Workforce Investment Board
Joint Power Agreement to reflect SBWIB's compliance with new laws.
(Fiscal Impact: None)
10. Receive and file the report regarding emergency work to repair dwelling units at
the Park Vista Senior Housing Facility due to water intrusion without the need for
bidding in accordance with Public Contracts Code §§ 20168 and 22050 and El
Segundo Municipal Code ( "ESMC ") §§ 1 -7 -12 and 1 -7A -4.
(Fiscal Impact: $50,000.00)
11. Waive second reading and adopt Ordinance No. 1505 for a Specific Plan
Amendment for the Corporate Campus Specific Plan in the Corporate
Campus Specific Plan Project area at 615 -645 Douglas Street, 630 Parkview
Drive, and 2275 Mariposa Avenue. Applicant: LAL Property, LLC.
(Fiscal Impact: None)
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12. Waive second reading and adopt Ordinance No. 1506 amending ESMC Chapter
1 -7C to extend the City's election under the Uniform Public Construction Cost
Accounting Act to all forms of "public projects" as defined in Public Contract Code
§ 22002(c).
(Fiscal Impact: $0)
13. Authorize the City Manager to enter into an agreement No. 4843 in a form
approved by the City Attorney with Magellan Advisors for a City owned fiber
optic network feasibility study at cost not to exceed $35,000.
(Fiscal Impact: $35,000.00)
14. Authorize the City Manager to amend professional services agreement No. 4695
with JAS, by increasing the amount by $75,000, for a total amount not -to- exceed
$150,000, Amendment No. 4695A from funds previously allocated and approved
for use by CSG consulting for plan check and inspection consulting services for
the Building and Safety Division (General Fund) and authorize the City Manager
to amend professional services agreement No. 3790 with J. Lee Engineering,
by increasing the contract amount by $150,000, for a total amount of not -to-
exceed $350,000, Amendment No. 3790H to provide plan check and inspection
consulting services for the Building and Safety Division from funds previously
allocated and approved for use in the hiring of a Senior Plan Check Engineer
(General Fund).
(Fiscal Impact: None)
MOTION by Council Member Fellhauer, SECONDED by Council Member Dugan to
approve Consent Agenda items 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14. MOTION
PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE. 5/0
PULLED ITEM:
5. Consideration and possible action to adopt a Resolution approving Plans and
Specifications for the FY 14/15 and 15/16 Sidewalk, Curb and Gutter
Replacement Project and authorize staff to advertise the project receipt of
construction bids Project No. PW 14 -16.
(Fiscal Impact: $500,000.00)
MOTION by Mayor Pro Tem, SECONDED by Council Member Fellhauer to move the
adoption of a resolution approving Plans and Specifications for the FY 14/15 and 15/16
Sidewalk, Curb and Gutter Replacement Project to the May 5, 2015 Council meeting.
MOTION PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE. 5/0
F. NEW BUSINESS
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G. REPORTS — CITY MANAGER — Mentioned a majority of the infrastructure
projects that will take place this summer will occur mostly in the Northwest
quadrant of the city. These projects are based on Council direction and are
scheduled strategically by the Public Works Department.
H. REPORTS — CITY ATTORNEY - None
I. REPORTS — CITY CLERK - None
J. REPORTS — CITY TREASURER — Not present
K. REPORTS — CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
Council Member Fellhauer — None
Council Member Atkinson — None
Council Member Dugan — mentioned the parking issue currently facing the residents on
the Northeast part of town.
Mayor Pro Tern Jacobson —
15. Consideration and possible action to send a letter in support of SB 485 which
would authorize the Sanitation District of Los Angeles County to manage storm
water and dry weather urban runoff.
Council Discussion
MOTION by Mayor Pro Tern Jacobson, SECONDED by Council Member Atkinson to
send a letter in support of SB 485 which would authorize the Sanitation District of Los
Angeles County to manage storm water and dry weather urban runoff. MOTION
PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE. 5/0
Mayor Fuentes —
PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS — (Related to City Business Only — 5 minute limit per
person, 30 minute limit total) Individuals who have receive value of $50 or more to
communicate to the City Council on behalf of another, and employees speaking on
behalf of their employer, must so identify themselves prior to addressing the City
Council. Failure to do so shall be a misdemeanor and punishable by a fine of $250.
While all comments are welcome, the Brown Act does not allow Council to take action
on any item not on the agenda. The Council will respond to comments after Public
Communications is closed.
Jack Axelrod, resident, mentioned the meeting was remarkable and spoke of other
items of concern to Mr. Axelrod.
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Gail Church, resident and Tree Musketeers CEO, gave a few suggestions for the
current drought conditions.
Emilee Layne, resident and El Segundo School Board Member, spoke on behalf of the
district concerning the drought.
MEMORIALS — William T Mason
ADJOURNMENT at 8:09 PM
Tracy Weaver, City Clerk
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EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATE: May 5, 2015
AGENDA STATEMENT AGENDA HEADING: Consent Agenda
AGENDA DESCRIPTION:
Consideration and possible action to accept as complete the Elevated Tank Restoration
and Reservoir Maintenance Project for El Segundo's elevated tank and two potable water
reservoirs, Project No. PW 13 -07. (Fiscal Impact: $859,868.25)
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION:
1. Accept the work for Elevated Tank Restoration and Reservoir Maintenance Project of
El Segundo's elevated tank and two potable water reservoirs, Project No. PW 13 -07
as complete.
2. Authorize the City Clerk to file Notice of Completion in the County Recorder's
office.
3. Alternatively, discuss and take other possible actions related to this item.
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS:
Notice of Completion
FISCAL IMPACT: Included in Adopted Budget
Amount Budgeted: $938,440
Additional Appropriation: N/A
Account Number(s): 501- 400 - 7102 -8227 (Water Enterprise Fund)
ORIGINATED BY: Lifan Xu, Principal Civil Engineer L,
REVIEWED BY: Stephanie Katsouleas, Public Works Director
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APPROVED BY: Greg Carpenter, City Manager
BACKGROUND AND DISCUSSION:
In March, 2010, Superior Tank Solutions, Inc. conducted a washout and visual conditional
assessment on the 200,000 gallon Elevated Water Tank located in the Water Maintenance Yard
at 400 Lomita Street. The purpose of the assessment was to determine the condition of the
interior and exterior coating systems along with the extent of corrosion and severity of
degradation. The Conditional Assessment Report found the Elevated Tank to be in fair to poor
condition, the interior and exterior coating system near its end of useful service life, and
localized corrosion present on defected areas. The Report recommends re- painting and re-
coating the tank's exterior and interior, and repairing the tank's ladders, vents, risers, overflow
pipe and various mechanical components.
In 2012, Aquatic Inspections, Inc. conducted diving inspections for the six million gallon and
three million gallon reservoirs to assess their condition. The inspection report documented
typical corrosion on tie - wires, rebar and various pipes and recommended restoration of corroded
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elements, replacement of corroded valves and hardware and installation of sacrificial anodes to
prevention future corrosion.
On August 6, 2013, City Council adopted the plans and specifications for the Elevated Tank
Restoration and Reservoir Maintenance of El Segundo's elevated tank and two potable water
reservoirs (Project No. PW13 -07) and authorized staff to advertise the project for receipt of
construction bids. On October 1, 2013, the City Council awarded a standard public works
contract to the lowest responsible and only bidder, Utility Service Co., Inc. in the amount of
$810,800 and approved an additional $81,080 for construction- related contingencies. City
Council also awarded a professional services agreement for $41,560.00 to Corrpro Companies,
Inc. to provide construction inspection services for the elevated water tank restoration project
and minor inspection services for the two potable water reservoirs, with inspection contingencies
of $5,000. On June 3, 2014, the inspection services contract was amended by City Council to
$12,000 because more inspection hours were needed due to severity of the elevated tank
corrosion.
Construction first began on the elevated tank in January, 2014 and then afterward on the potable
water reservoirs. The entire project was successfully completed by Utility Service Co., on April
17, 2015. The lengthy construction time was due to the extent of the elevated tank restoration
and then subsequently to the logistics of managing the reservoir levels to provide adequate
service to water customers while repairing the reservoirs.
Staff recommends that City Council accept the work performed by Utility Service Co., Inc. as
complete and authorize the City Clerk to file a Notice of Completion with the County Recorder's
office.
Accounting Summary:
$810,800.00
Utility Service Co. Contract Amount
+$0.00
Change Order and Construction Contingency Utilized
$810,800.00
Utility Service Co., Construction Total
+$48,396.25
Corrpro Companies, Inc. Construction Inspection Funds Utilized
+$672.00
Advertising for Bids in Newspaper
$859,868.25
Total Fiscal Impact
$938,440.00 Amount Budgeted for the project
- $859,868.25 Total Fiscal Impact
$78,571.75 Unspent Budgeted Amount Returned to the Water Fund
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Recording Requested by
and When Recorded Mail To:
City Clerk, City Hall
350 Main Street
El Segundo, CA 90245
NOTICE OF COMPLETION OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECT
Project Name: Elevated Tank Restoration and repair and maintenance of El Segundo's the two potable water reservoirs
Project No.: PW 13 -07 Contract No. 4487
Notice is hereby given pursuant to State of California Civil Code Section 3093 et seq that:
1. The undersigned is an officer of the owner of the interest stated below in the property
hereinafter described.
2. The full name of the owner is: City of El Segundo
3. The full address of the owner is: City Hall, 350 Main Street, El Segundo, CA, 90245
4. The nature of the interest of the owner is: Public Facilities
5. A work of improvement on the property hereinafter described was field reviewed by the
City Engineer on Arpil 17, 2015. The work done was: Elevated Tank Restoration and
repair and maintenance of El Segundo's the two potable water reservoirs.
6. On May 5, 2015, City Council of the City of El Segundo accepted the work of this contract
as being complete and directed the recording of this Notice of Completion in the Office of
the County Recorder.
T The name of the Contractor for such work of improvement was: Utility Service Co., Inc.
8. The property on which said work of improvement was completed is in the City of El
Segundo, County of Los Angeles, State of California, and is described as follows:
Elevated Tank, 3 MG Reservoir and 6 MG Reservoir at 400 Lomita St.
9. The street address of said property is: 400 Lomita St., El Segundo, CA 90245
Dated:
Stephanie Katsouleas
Public Works Director
VERIFICATION
I, the undersigned, say: I am the Director of Public Works /City Engineer of the City El Segundo, the
declarant of the foregoing Notice of Completion; I have read said Notice of Completion and know the
contents thereof; the same is true of my own knowledge.
I declare under penalty of perjury the foregoing is true and correct.
Executed on , 2015 at El Segundo, California. 90245
Stephanie Katsouleas
Public Works Director
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AGENDA STATEMENT
AGENDA DESCRIPTION:
MEETING DATE: May 5, 2015
AGENDA HEADING: Consent Agenda
Consideration and possible action to amend ground -lease agreements with New Cingular
Wireless PCS, LLC (d.b.a. AT &T Wireless), Los Angeles SMSA (d.b.a. Verizon
Wireless) and Sprint PCS Assets, LLC for the purposes of expanding and relocating cell
tower equipment within the Water Yard located at 400 Lomita Street (Fiscal Impact:
additional lease revenues, to be determined).
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION:
1. Authorize the City Manager to execute an amendment with New Cingular Wireless
PCS, LLC (d.b.a. AT &T Wireless), in a form approved by the City Attorney, to
expand and relocate cell antennas and related equipment from the elevated tank to an
approved mono -tree location in the water yard.
2. Authorize the City Manager to execute an amendment with Los Angeles SMSA
Limited Partnership (d.b.a. Verizon Wireless), in a form approved by the City
Attorney, to expand and relocate cell antennas and related equipment from the
elevated tank to an approved mono -tree location in the water yard.
3. Authorize the City Manager to execute an amendment with Sprint PCS Assets, LLC,
in a form approved by the City Attorney, to expand and relocate cell antennas and
related equipment from the elevated tank to an approved mono -tree location in the
water yard.
4. Alternatively, discuss and take other possible actions related to this item.
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS:
None.
FISCAL IMPACT: To Be Determined (revenue increase)
Amount Budgeted: N/A
Additional Appropriation: N/A
Account Number(s): N/A
ORIGINATED BY: Lifan Xu, Principal Civil Engineer L
REVIEWED BY: Stephanie Katsouleas, Public Works Director
APPROVED BY: Greg Carpenter, City Manager,/-
BACKGROUND AND DISCUSSION:
Since the early to mid 2000s, three cellular companies, AT &T Wireless, Verizon Wireless and
Sprint Wireless, have leased area inside the City's water yard, located at 400 Lomita St., to house
their cellular equipment. The antennas and related cables were originally mounted on the
elevated tank to provide clear cellular signals given the tank's high elevation, while ground
equipment was located on concrete pads adjacent to the tank. When the City started its elevated
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tank restoration project last year, these carriers were required to relocate their facilities to
temporary mono - poles. While the restoration work was underway, staff began negotiating with
the three cellular companies to permanently relocate their facilities to mono -poles in lieu of
returning to the elevated tank. This was due in large part to the continuing requests from the
companies to increase the amount of equipment mounted on the elevated tank and staff's
concerns about the structural impacts to the tank. Those negotiations were successful and have
resulted in the cell companies' willingness to install two new, permanent mono -poles at the fence
line between the Water Yard's southern pavement edge and the abandoned reservoir. The mono-
poles will be shorter than the height of the elevated Tank (105ft), at approximately 70ft tall. The
ground equipment supporting the cell towers will remain in its current location on the west side
of the Paragon building. The lease agreements must be amended to accurately reflect the
location of and dimensions of the cell tower equipment located at the Water Yard before the City
can issue permits for installation. AT &T has developed its plans and is ready for permit
approval, and Sprint and Verizon are expected to be ready shortly.
Staff therefore recommends that City Council authorize the City Manager to execute lease
agreement amendments with New Cingular Wireless PCS, LLC (d.b.a. AT &T Wireless), Los
Angeles SMSA Limited Partnership (d.b.a. Verizon Wireless) and Sprint PCS Assets, LLC, in
a form approved by the City Attorney, for the purposes of expanding and relocating cell tower
equipment onto two mono -poles within the water yard located at 4:00 Lomita Street.
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EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA STATEMENT
AGENDA DESCRIPTION:
MEETING DATE: May 5, 2015
AGENDA HEADING: Consent Agenda
Consideration and possible action to (1) accept donation of materials and labor from El
Segundo resident Daniel Chavez to improve and enhance areas at Camp Eucalyptus for his
Boy Scout Eagle Project; (2) adopt a Resolution to approve the plans for the project; (3)
authorize the City Manager to execute a contract with Daniel Chavez's parent or guardian
in a form approved by the City Attorney. (Fiscal Impact: Donation to the City of materials
and labor valued at $600).
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION:
1. Approve to accept donation of materials and labor from Daniel Chavez;
2. Adopt a Resolution that includes approval of the project's plan;
3. Authorize the City Manager to execute a contract in a form approved by the City
Attorney; and /or
4. Alternatively, discuss and take other action related to this item.
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS:
1. Proposal from Daniel Chavez
2. Resolution
FISCAL IMPACT: Donation to the City of materials and labor valued at $600.
Amount Budgeted: N/A
Additional Appropriation: N/A
Account Number(s): N/A
ORIGINATED BY: Vina Ramos, Senior Administrative Analyst
REVIEWED BY: Meredith Petit, Recreation and Parks Director
APPROVED BY: Greg Carpenter, City Manager
BACKGROUND AND DISCUSSION
On April 6, 2015 Daniel Chavez, a resident Boy Scout and Eagle Scout candidate submitted a
written proposal to the Department of Recreation and Parks to improve and enhance areas at
Camp Eucalyptus located at 641 California Street. The proposal includes removing the existing
ivy surrounding the east fence, planting red trumpet vines to replace the ivy, and installing an
irrigation system to water the newly planted red trumpet vines. Estimated value for materials and
labor is $600.
Daniel partnered with the Parks Superintendent, Mark Trujillo and the local chairperson of the
Girl Scouts, Ms. Naomi McElwain to meet the needs of the City and the Girl Scouts organization.
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Daniel will work with approximately fifteen volunteers for approximately three weekends to
complete the project. Daniel and his parent and/or guardian understands that contract and
insurance requirements must be submitted before the project.
Staff recommends accepting the donation of materials and labor to improve and enhance Camp
Eucalyptus.
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Daniel Chavez
Eagle Scout Service Project
Eagle Scout Service Project
Camp Eucalyptus
Introduction
Camp Eucalyptus, located in the heart of El Segundo, is primarily dedicated to the local Girl
Scout Organization. It currently serves over 8 troops and is open on week - nights and weekends
for special events and campouts. The fence around the camp is covered in invasive ivy and needs
removal.
My Eagle Scout Service Project involves the following:
1. Remove the existing ivy surrounding the fence on the east fence.
2. Plant red trumpet vines to replace the ivy and to provide curb appeal.
3. Installing an irrigation system to water the newly planted red trumpet vines.
1. Removal of existing ivy:
The existing ivy on the east fence is over 15 years old and presents an unkempt look of Camp
Eucalyptus and also harbors rats and other rodents which can destroy the environment of the
camp. I plan to remove and replace the ivy.
Step 1; Locate the root source of the ivy.
Step 2: Saw off the root securing the ivy to the fence and dig it up from the ground.
Step 3: Remove the ivy from the fence using trimmers.
Step 4: Dispose of the ivy at the bio waste center.
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Daniel Chavez
Eagle Scout Service Project
2. Red Trumpet Vines:
As stated previously the current ivy reduces the curb appeal of the camp and harbors rodents and
other pests. I will be planting red trumpet vines, the same plant that hangs from the baseball
fields at rec park, to increase curb appeal and maintain the wooded look of the camp while
getting rid of the rodents.
Step 1: After removal of current ivy, purchase around 15 red trumpet vines.
Step 2: Plant the vines at 10 foot intervals to give them space to grow.
Step 3. Support the vines so they can grow in an organized manner.
3. Irrigation System:
An irrigation system will be installed to keep maintenance of the newly planted vines to make
sure they grow to be healthy. This system will be made out of secure PVC piping and will stem
from the existing tap around the center of the camp. It will water each of the separate vines and
will ensure that they grow. The pipes used will be schedule 40 due to the hard and rocky ground
at the camp so it will last longer. A backflow preventer will be installed due to the irrigation
system not having its own independent source of water.
Step 1: Fit PVC piping to the specifications of the camp fence.
Step 2: Drill the holes for the drip irrigation system and insulate them so they don't present
unwanted leakage.
3. Fit system to the existing tap.
Timelines and Costing:
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Daniel Chavez
Eagle Scout Service Project
I plan to complete my project before the start of Summer in time for the Girl Scout Summer
campout. I plan to have the project completed over 3 weekends, depending on the stubbornness
of the existing ivy. I am prepared to allot more time if necessary. I need an estimate of at least 15
volunteers to help with labor and clean -up.
The total cost of the project is estimated to be around $600 dollars, which covers the cost of
supplies, materials, and food and drink for the volunteers.
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RESOLUTION NO.
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DESIGN AND PLANS TO ENHANCE
AREAS AT CAMP EUCALYPTUS LOCATED AT 641 CALIFORNIA
STREET PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE § 830.6 AND
AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT
WITH DANIEL CHAVEZ'S PARENT OR GUARDIAN.
The City Council of the City of El Segundo does resolve as follows:
SECTION 1: The City Council finds and declares as follows:
A. On April 6, 2015, the City received a proposal by Daniel Chavez
( "VOLUNTEER ") to enhance areas at Camp Eucalyptus (the "Project ");
B. The Project consists removing the existing ivy surrounding the east fence,
planting red trumpet vines to replace the ivy, and installing an irrigation
system to water the newly planted red trumpet vines.
C. VOLUNTEER proposes to donate all materials and labor for the Project.
The City would not incur any cost;
D. Based upon information supplied by the VOLUNTEER and Recreation and
Parks staff, the Council understands and believes that the total value of
the materials would be $600 and will utilize approximately 15 community
volunteers for the labor.
E. Ordinarily, the City would need to comply with the competitive bidding
requirements set forth in the California Public Contracts Code for this type
of project;
F. The purpose of such bidding requirements is to guard against favoritism,
improvidence, extravagance, fraud and corruption, to prevent waste of public
funds, and to obtain the best economic result for the public;
G. The facts and circumstances of this Project, however, demonstrate that
competitive bids would be unavailing or would not produce an advantage,
and the advertisement for competitive bid would thus be undesirable and
impractical for the following reasons:
There is, at most, only a nominal cost to the public for the reason
that VOLUNTEER will donate all materials and labor;
2. VOLUNTEER will not receive any public funds for completing the
Project;
3. VOLUNTEER's only motivation in constructing the Project is to
accomplish charitable works for the City;
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4. It is improbable that any other private contractor can construct the
Project for a lesser amount; and
5. To complete the Project, VOLUNTEER will still be required to
comply with the City's standard contract requirements.
H. In waiving the competitive bid requirements otherwise required by the
SPMC, the City Council takes note of the analysis and decisions set forth
in Graydon v. Pasadena Redevelopment Agency (1980) Cal.App.3d 631;
Hodgeman v. City of San Diego (1942) 53 Cal. App.2nd 610; Orange
County Water Dist. v. Bennett (1958) 156 Cal. App.2nd 745; and Los
Angeles G &E Corp. v. City of Los Angeles (1922) 188 Cal. 307;
The City Engineer designed the Project and prepared the Project's plans
and specifications. The plans are now complete and the Project may be
constructed;
J. The City Council wishes to obtain the immunities set forth in Government
Code § 830.6 with regard to the plans and construction of the Project; and
K. In accepting VOLUNTEER's donation of the Project, the City notes that
Labor Code § 1720.4 specifically exempts work performed by volunteers
from payment of prevailing wages. In addition, the Department of
Industrial Relations ( "DIR ") has determined that prevailing wages need not
be paid for the Project (see DIR Decision No. 98 -004 dated June 10, 1998
[donated pergola on city property]; and DIR Decision No. 99 -058 dated
January 7, 2000 [volunteer labor]). Accordingly, the Project is not a
"public work" under the Labor Code and twenty volunteers need not be
paid prevailing wages.
SECTION 2: Design Immunity,
A. The design and plans for the Project are determined to be consistent with
the City's standards and are approved.
B. The design approval set forth in this Resolution occurred before actual
work on the Project construction commenced.
C. The approval granted by this Resolution conforms with the City's General
Plan.
D. The approval and authorization granted by this Resolution is intended to
avail the City of the immunities set forth in Government Code § 830.6.
SECTION 3: Authorizations.
A. The City Engineer, or designee, is authorized to act on the City's behalf in
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approving any alterations or modifications of the design and plans
approved by this Resolution.
B. The City Manager is authorized to execute a contract with VOLUNTEER
for construction of the Project in a form approved by the City Attorney.
SECTION 4: The City Clerk is directed to certify the adoption of this Resolution,
SECTION 5: This Resolution will become effective immediately upon adoption.
PASSED AND ADOPTED this 5th day of May, 2014.
ATTEST:
Tracy Weaver, City Clerk
APPROVED AS TO FORM:
Mark D. Hensley, City Attorney
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Karl H. Berger, Assistant City Attorney
Suzanne Fuentes, Mayor
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EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATE: May 5, 2015
AGENDA ITEM STATEMENT AGENDA HEADING: Consent Agenda
AGENDA DESCRIPTION:
Consideration and possible action regarding revisions to the Recreation and Parks Department's
Athletic Field /Facility Use and Allocation Policy.
(Fiscal Impact: None)
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION:
(1) Approve the revisions to the Athletic Field/Facility Use and Allocation Policy;
(2) Alternatively, discuss and take other action related to this item.
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS:
(1) Revised Athletic Field /Facility Use and Allocation Policy
FISCAL IMPACT: None.
Amount Budgeted: N/A
Additional Appropriation: N/A
Account Number(s): N/A
ORIGINATED BY: Jesse Bobbett, Recreation Superintendent
REVIEWED BY: Meredith Petit, Director of Recreation and Parks/
APPROVED BY: Greg Carpenter, City Manager
BACKGROUND & DISCUSSION:
The Athletic Field /Facility Use and Allocation Policy was originally created in 2004 by the Recreation
and Parks Department with assistance from various El Segundo youth sports representatives. The
policy established guidelines for the allocation of field space for user groups utilizing City athletic
fields and facilities and also outlined governing rules for the Youth Sports Council and its charter
organizations.
Since its creation over 10 years ago, the policy has undergone four minor revisions and seen the
addition of six amendments to address issues that arose during that time. To evolve with the changes
over time with the various user groups and city resources, it is again necessary to review and revise
the policy to improve its enforceability, clarity, and consistency.
Additionally, in July 2014, the City Council approved a "Per Player Fee" to be instituted to Youth
Sports Organizations utilizing the city athletic facilities. The purpose of the fee is to provide partial
cost recovery for the expenses incurred by the City to maintain and prepare the fields and facilities for
exclusive use by these groups. The fee was established as $10 per El Segundo Resident and $30 per
Non -El Segundo Resident on the organizations' annual rosters.
In August 2014, a subcommittee was formed which included Department Staff and 5 members of the
Youth Sports Council to assist the Department with establishing an implementation plan for the "Per
Player Fee" for El Segundo Youth Sports Organizations and to review and modify the current policy
as deemed necessary. After ten meetings over the next four months, the subcommittee finalized their
changes to the policy and included new rules to regulate the implementation of the "Per Player Fee ".
Once finalized, the City Attorney and Recreation and Parks Commission reviewed the policy and
minor changes were made with their input.
Recreation and Parks Staff recommends that the City Council approve the revisions to the Athletic
Field /Facility Use and Allocation.
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Athletic Field /Facility Use and
Allocation Policy
Recreation & Parks Commission
- Approved:
December 8, 2004
- Amendments #1 & 2:
August 17, 2005
- Amendments #3 & 4:
February 15, 2006
- Amendment #5:
June 20, 2007
- Revised:
June 20, 2007
- Amendment #6:
April 16, 2008
- Revised:
December 17, 2008
- Revised:
February 18, 2009
- Revised:
March 18, 2009
- Revised:
January, 2015
City Council
Approved: December 21, 2004
Approved: April 21, 2015
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Introduction
The City of El Segundo Recreation & Parks Department, Recreation Division coordinates and issues permits for
the use of athletic fields and facilities to organizations and the general public for cultural, social and recreational
activities and programs. The City also coordinates the use of the Richmond St. Fields, which is owned by the
El Segundo Unified School District but is scheduled and maintained by the city. The purpose of this policy is
to outline the City procedure and allocation priority for the permitted use of athletic fields /facilities. Due
to the increased demand for the use of City fields it is imperative that all user groups abide by the policies
and procedures set forth in this policy.
Athletic fields and facilities are permitted and allocated in two 6 -month bi- annual periods February through
August and September through January. The Recreation Division will monitor proper use of allocations and
permits. Priority will be given to El Segundo Recreation and Parks programs, El Segundo High School, El
Segundo Youth group organizations and El Segundo residents.
Recreation anti Parks Staff will use this policy when allocating fields, however staff will crake the final decision
on field allocation based on this policy and fairness to all affected groups. Submission of an Application and
Agreement Request does not constitute approval. A group may dispute a decision made by staff by submitting
an appeal to the Director of Recreation anti 13�irks in writing with justification within ten (10) working days from
the decision.
Definition of Terms
Resident Status
Resident status is defined as groups or organizations with at least (75 %) or more El Segundo residents. Team
rosters and/or individual participant utility bills /photo ID may be required by City staff to verify residency
status.
Youth Status
Youth status is defined as persons 18 years of age or under.
Non Profit Status
To qualify as a Non - Profit user, the organization must meet all the criteria below.
The organization must be registered as a not - for - profit corporation with the State of California, or if not
registered with the State, must have a constitution, bylaws or mission statement which clearly states the
objectives of the organization are of a non - profit, non - commercial nature.
The organization must be comprised of volunteers, (75 %) of which must be El Segundo residents. The
organization must submit the following:
1. If incorporated, submit State Incorporation papers and bylaws; if not incorporated, submit constitution
and bylaws or mission statement.
2. Current financial statement.
3. Roster of Officers
4. List of persons authorized to make reservations for your organization; must be El Segundo residents.
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City of El Segundo and Richmond Street Fields and Facilities
Due to the limited number of fields and facilities available, the City of El Segundo Recreation & Parks
Department has established a priority use.
Priority Group Qualification: Group 1 -10
Priority use of fields /facilities will be allocated as follows:
Group 1: City sponsored or co- sponsored events. City of El Segundo, Recreation and Parks Department
youth or adult programs or leagues.
Group 2: El Segundo Unified School District related programs.
Group 3: Youth programs, organizations or events with 75% El Segundo residency status. (AYSO, Little
League, ASA) "Everybody Plays" Philosophy.
"Grandfather Clause ": At the onset of this policy, the El Segundo Babe Ruth Baseball League was
"grandfathered" in at "Group 3" classification by maintaining 60% El Segundo residency.
Group 4: Youth Club programs, organizations or events with 75% El Segundo residency status.
Group 5: Adult programs, organizations or events with 75% El Segundo residency status.
Group 6: Youth Club programs, organizations or events with 60 — 74% El Segundo residency status.
Group 7: Adult programs, organizations or events with 60 — 74% El Segundo residency status.
Group 8: Youth programs, organizations or events with under 60% El Segundo residency.
Group 9: El Segundo Businesses, with a current El Segundo Business License. Groups must consist of
75% employees from given business.
Group 10: Adult programs, organizations or events with under 60% El Segundo residency.
Please Note: All regular use El Segundo sports organizations, within Priority Groups 3 —10 will schedule and
play games on Sundays if necessary, in an effort to allow for allocation of Saturday field time for other user
groups within the El Segundo community.
1 Program: Any activity that is offered by the Recreation & Parks Department. A system of services, opportunities, or projects,
usually designed to meet a social need.
2 Organization: Any group of participants organized for recreational purposes and associated with a specific purpose. A group of
persons organized.for a particular purpose; an association.
3 Event: Any contest or program related to sports or recreational activity. Example: camps, clinics, and /or tournaments.
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Youth Sports Advisory Committee
The Youth Sports Advisory Committee is a recommending body established and appointed by the Recreation
& Parks Commission. Its purpose is to work cooperatively with City Staff in bi- annual field allocation, help
identify field allocation issues, and review field allocation and use policies when necessary. Any and all decisions
made by the Youth Sports Council will be considered a recommendation to the Recreation & Parks
Commission. Staff will present recommendations at the monthly Recreation & Parks Commission Meetings,
when necessary. The Youth Sports Advisory Committee will meet a minimum of 2 times per year for allocation,
but may additionally meet as needed to discuss pending issues or concerns.
Charter Organizations of the Youth Sports Advisory Committee
The charter members of the Youth Sports Advisory Committee are listed below. These organizations will remain a
part of the Youth Sports Advisory Committee regardless of status unless that Organization, the Committee, or the
City of El Segundo Recreation and Parks department decide otherwise. Each organization below is designated as
an "Everybody Plays" organization unless otherwise noted. Organizations wishing to change their name or status
must re -apply under the "New Member Organizations" guidelines.
• El Segundo AYSO • El Segundo Inline Hockey
• El Segundo Babe Ruth • El Segundo Unified School District
• El Segundo Girls Softball • El Segundo Youth Flag Football
• El Segundo Lacrosse • El Segundo Youth Volleyball (USYVL)
• El Segundo Little League
Voting Member Organizations
All Voting Members must meet and maintain the following:
1. Only those organizations qualifying within Priority Allocation Groups 1 — 4 AND maintaining 75% El
Segundo residency (overall organization membership) shall be designated as a voting member
organization. El Segundo residency status will be monitored through league rosters and will be reviewed
bi- annually in February and September for that organization's primary season. If at any time a
designated voting member organization does not meet these requirements, that organization will lose
voting privileges.
2. Any and all organization representatives designated as a voting member must be a current El Segundo
resident and maintain El Segundo residency during the course of the designation. El Segundo residency
will be monitored through Board rosters and will be reviewed prior to that group's primary season. If
at any time a designated voting member does not meet this requirement, that respective organization must
designate a new voting member to the Youth Sports Advisory Committee.
3. El Segundo Babe Ruth will maintain voting rights provided their residency remains at or above 60 %.
New Member Organizations
Any new organization wishing to join the Youth Sports Advisory Committee must submit their request in writing
to the Recreation and Parks Department and meet the following criteria:
• Have at least 100 El Segundo Resident Players in their organization
• Submit league rosters containing at least 75% El Segundo Residents
• The organization must be registered as a not - for -profit with the State of California.
Good Faith Rule
All Youth Sports Advisory Committee will work together in "good faith" to accommodate as many El
Segundo based youth sports organizations as possible on City controlled fields.
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Per Player Fee
Youth Sports Advisory Committee Organizations are required to pay a per player fee as mandated by City
Council in May 2014. Rules for the Per Player Fee and these organizations areas follows:
1.) The per player fee applies to all players and teams that practice or play on City of El Segundo fields during
regular season practices and games.
2.) If a portion of the league does not utilize a City of El Segundo field, they are not required to pay the fee for
those players that do not use the field during the regular season.
3.) If a league has teams that come from outside the City to participate in regular season games, then these
leagues must either:
a. Pay the per player Fee for all teams (Resident and Non- Resident) in their respective organization that
utilize City fields.
or
b. Pay the per player fee for resident teams that utilize City fields and in addition pay these per hour rates.
El Segundo Team vs. Non - Resident Team pay V2 ES Non -Profit Field Rate per hour
Non - Resident Team vs. Non - Resident Team pay full ES Non - Profit Field Rate per hour
The deadline for payment of this fee to the Recreation and Parks Department is 2 weeks after the start of
that organization's primary season. Refunds for the per player fee will not be issued once the fee is paid to
the City of El Segundo, but an organization can rollover any unused fee to the next primary season due to
player withdrawal upon providing proof to the City that said player was withdrawn and refunded their league
fee. All payments can be made by cash, check, money order, or credit card (Visa, Mastercard, American
Express) to the Recreation and Parks Department for reservations made throughout the season..
Three Strikes Rule
The purpose of the Three Strikes Rule is to implement a systematic method of enforcing the Municipal Code
and Athletic Field Use and Allocation Policy. The Three Strikes Rule will apply in the event that rules or
regulations of this policy or City of El Segundo Municipal Code are violated by a Youth Sports Advisory
Committee Organization. The City reserves the right to cancel or suspend field/facility permits for ,games,
practices, and other usages based upon user groups violating the City Municipal Code or the established Athletic
Field Use and Allocation Policy.
STRIKE ONE
Strike one consists of a verbal warning to the organization in direct violation of the City Municipal Code
or Athletic Field Use and Allocation Policy.
STRIKE TWO
Strike two consists of a written warning, (visa letter or e-mail) to document the violation within the permit period.
STRIKE THREE
Strike three consists of a second written warning; (via letter or e-mail) to document the violation and possible
cancellation of field/facility permit within the permitted period.
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Process for Obtaining Permits
Requests to permit the use of City fields and facilities in El Segundo are made through the City of El Segundo
Recreation & Parks Department Recreation Division at 401 Sheldon Street, El Segundo. Groups of 10 or
more individuals who wish to utilize an athletic field or facility must complete an appropriate
application and the rules and regulations form.
Fields /facilities are allocated to user groups in bi- annual periods. Youth Sports Advisory Committee
Organizations requesting space must submit their request at or before the Bi- Annual Youth Sports Advisory
Committee Field Allocation Meetings. Organizations may make requests by e-mail or phone, but are still
required to sign and submit an Athletic Field /Facility Use Mules and Regulations form, Application and
Agreement Request for Use of +City of El Segundo facilities, and Bold Harmless and Indemnity Agreement
form at the end of this policy. if fields and facilities are not used as requested, permits may be rescinded.
Groups or organizations not using; fields and facilities as stated may lose their permitted time and/or priority
allocation consideration for future allocations per the 3 Strikes Rule. Deadlines for required Youth Sports
Organization information and documents are:
Proof of Insurance: due by February 1 for spring primary seasons and August 15 for fall
primary seasons.
• Game and practice schedules: due two (2) weeks prior to that league's respective opening day
and will be used by City staff to insure fields are being used as allocated.
+ Final Board and League Rosters: due one (1) week following final league registration date.
Multiple -use reservations may be made for more than one date or with recurring weekly use. Any person or
organization missing these deadlines will have access to any remaining fields /facilities after the allocation
process is finalized on a first come first served basis. Submission of an Application and Agreement
Request for Use of City of El Segundo facilities does not constitute approval. Approval is given
according to allocation policy, after fees are paid and when a permit is issued. Every effort will be made to
accommodate user group's use of fields. Priority of fields will be given to primary season sports, then by
priority grouping. This means that primary season holds precedence ONLY within each priority
grouping level.
• Baseball, Flag Football, Softball, Lacrosse, Volleyball: February 1— August 31
• Soccer, Inline Hockey: September 1— January 31
Sport Specific Field Designation & Use
The following fields have been designated as sport- specific athletic fields:
• Stevenson Field HARDBALL BASEBALL ONLY
• Rec Park Softball Field SOFTBALL & BASEBALL ONLY
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Liability Insurance Requirements
FACILITY USER shall secure and maintain throughout the period of use contemplated under this agreement,
general liability insurance with policy limits of not less that $1,000,000 per occurrence. The City of El
Segundo, it's elected and appointed officials, officers, agents and employees shall be named as additional
insured by endorsement. Such policy or policies of insurance shall further provide that said policies of
FACILITY USER shall be primary over any insurance held by CITY that may be applicable. The types and
limits of insurance may be changed from time to time as determined by the City of El Segundo Fiscal Services
Manager.
FACILITY USER agrees to hold the City of El Segundo harmless and free from any liability of any nature
arising out of the use of City Recreational Facilities, to include reimbursement of any legal costs and fees
incurred in defense of such claims.
Notice of Field Exchange
Organizations may give up or exchange their allocation, or any part of it, with an organization of equal or
greater allocation priority only when all the parties agree in writing and the Recreation Division reissues the
permit.
Notice of Non -Use of Field
Any organization that has been allocated space and does not intend to use it according to the permit, shall
notify the Recreation Division so that the fields /facilities may be reallocated or otherwise used at its maximum.
User groups with fee waivers may be billed for fields that they have reserved and have not used (see Permit
Cancellation). Also, non -use of a field may result in revocation of the allocated field. Please see "Three
Strikes Rule" page 14.
Permit Cancellation
The City of El Segundo reserves the right to cancel, refund, and/or reschedule permitted reservations in the event
that one of the following occurs:
• When the health and safety of participants are threatened due to inclement weather or conditions
including but not limited to heavy reins, smog, alerts, pesticide spraying, and earthquakes.
• City begins work involving any of the facilities.
• Non - adherence to Athletic Field/Facility Use and Allocation Policy or City ordinance.
• ESUSD cancels use of fields under the direction of their administrative office.
Permits canceled for paid reservations at least 10 days prior to the reservation will be refunded the entire amount
less a $10 Administrative Fee. Permits canceled less than 10 days prior to the reservation elate will be charged a
$50 cancellation fee.
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Post - Season Tournaments
1. Each youth sports organization in the City of El Segundo is allowed to host one free (no charge) tournament
each season during their primary season.
2. All tournaments may not last any longer than 2 calendar weeks over a maximum of 3 weekends ... for a total
of 16 days.
3. All tournaments must end within 60 days of the completion on the season of the host youth sports organization.
4. Any group that wishes to host a tournament in addition to the one free (no charge) tournament within their
primary season must request in writing and subsequently receive approval from the Recreation & Parks
Commission.
5. Any group that wishes to host a tournament outside of the 6 0 -day window and within their primary
season must request in writing and subsequently receive approval from the Recreation & Parks
Commission.
6. All tournament requests are subject to athletic field availability.
7. All tournament requests must be submitted in writing a minimum of 60 days prior to the start of the
tournament.
* Any El Segundo based organization making a "Special Request" of the Recreation & Parks Commission to
operate outside of the current Athletic Field/Facility Use & Allocation Policy must send a representative from
its current Board to the Recreation & Parks Commission Meeting for which their "Special Request" is agendized.
* Regular Season: Period of time during a primary season in which regularly scheduled games are played. Must be part of the
permit period, but does not include playoffs or tournaments.
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Camp /Clinic
1. El Segundo resident youth sports organizations are allowed to host one free (no charge) camp or clinic
each calendar year.
2. All camps /clinics may not last any longer than a total of five (5) days.
3. All camps /clinics may not last any longer than 7 hours per day, for a total of 35 hours per week.
4. Any group that wishes to host a camp /clinic in addition to the one free (no charge) camp /clinic
within a calendar year must request it in writing and subsequently receive approval from the
Recreation & Parks Commission.
5. Any group that wishes to host a camp /clinic outside of the five (5) day maximum or longer than 7 hours
per day must request this in writing and subsequently receive approval from the Recreation & Parks
Commission.
6. All camp /clinic requests are subject to athletic field availability.
7. All camp /clinic requests must be submitted in writing a minimum of 60 days prior to the start of
the camp /clinic.
* Any El Segundo based organization making a "Special Request" of the Recreation & Parks
Commission to operate outside of the current Athletic Field/Facility Use & Allocation Policy must send
a representative from its current Board to the Recreation & Parks Commission Meeting for which their
"Special Request" is agendized. (revision: December 2008)
* A typical camp /clinic traditionally would run Monday through Friday, but may run for any amount of time less than or equal to 5
calendar days.
* A typical camp /clinic would be from 9 am — 3 pm, with a reservation from 8:30 am — 3:30 pm, for a total of 7 hours of field
time. The additional half and hour before and after are to accommodate set -up and break -down.
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Miscellaneous Rules
Groups consisting of ten or more individuals wishing to utilize a field must acquire a permit with
the City of El Segundo. Field use permit must be available during use and presented to any City
representative upon request. It is the League /organizations president or their Field Coordinator's
responsibility to make sure coaches receive and understand that permits must be on site during field use.
• It is the responsibility of the organization president and the individual identified as the person in charge
of the permit to enforce the rules and regulations regarding the conduct of the group while on permitted
facilities.
• Use begins and ends at the times stated on the permit including set -up and clean up. Groups are not
allowed on fields prior to the start time on the permit and are required to have the fields clean, picked
up and be off the fields at the ending time indicated on the permit. Check your permit for specific times
you may access the fields.
• Use will end at dusk on unlighted fields and by 9 pm or 10 pm on lighted fields except where noted
on Site Specific Field Use (page 11). Check your permit for specific times you may access the fields.
• Parking is allowed in designated areas only. No vehicles are allowed on City or District fields or
property, other than parking lots, without written permission noted on the permit issued by the City of
El Segundo. User groups must inform their participants and spectators to park in facility parking lots
and public parking areas.
Smoking is not allowed at any City of El Segundo facility where youth sports are occurring including
tobacco, drugs, or simulated smoking devices.
• Alcoholic beverages are not allowed in City parks, fields, schools, or adjacent areas (E.S. Municipal
Code, SEC. 13.04.040)
• Selling food or other items is not allowed without City approval and must be noted on the permit.
• Amplified sound is not allowed on any field without City approval and must be noted on the permit.
The use of artificial noisemakers, horns, rattles, bells, and whistles by spectators are not allowed.
• Banners may not be posted without City approval and noted on your permit.
• Balls and any other equipment thrown, batted, kicked, or otherwise land on private property must not
be retrieved without the property owner's permission.
• Property boundary walls and fences are not to be used as backstops at any time.
• Portable goals and/or markers are allowed but must be removed daily.
• Please leave school and park areas immediately after games and practices safely and quietly, especially
after late games. For the benefit of our community, please practice being good neighbors in
residential neighborhoods.
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Starting & Ending Use Times
City fields may be permitted as available beginning 8 am Unlit field use ends at dusk. Lighted field use
ends at 9 pm or 10 pm depending on location. Check your permit for specific times you may access the
fields. Exceptions to these time frames may be allowed with the permission of the Recreation and Parks
Department.
Site Specific Field Use
Some sites have restricted use due to the location of the athletic fields, neighborhoods with limited
parking and/or fields directly adjacent to residences. Additional site - specific measures may be added to
reduce resident concerns adjacent to the athletic field facilities. Check your permit for specific times you
may access the fields and the number of fields allocated for your use.
Inclement Weather Field Closures
In the event of inclement weather fields may be closed. It is the user group's responsibility to call
the Recreation and Parks Department Field Conditions Hotline at (310) 524 -2883 after 12:00 pm
Monday through Friday or after 7:00 a n Saturday and Sunday to verify field closures. Groups cannot play
on fields that have been closed.
Traffic and Parking
User groups must inform their participants and spectators to park in facility parking lots and public
parking areas. If needed, user groups should post directional signs to assist participants and spectators to
appropriate parking areas. When traffic and/or parking are an issue or during post- season tournament play,
the user group or organization must provide volunteers to direct participants and spectators to designated
parking areas. It is the user's responsibility to alleviate traffic and parking issues. No vehicles are allowed
on City or District fields or property, other than parking lots, without written permission noted on the use
permit issued by the City of El Segundo.
Athletic Field Key Policy for Stevenson Field, Softball Field, Brett Field, and Inline
Hockey Rink
• Each league president / vice - president may request, to the City, a reasonable number of keys to
the field(s) facilities that are referenced on their field use permit.
• Each key that is checked out will rewire a signature of the league president / vice- president on
this agreement prior to key issuance.
• If a key(s) is lost, that organization must contact the Recreation and Parks Department
immediately and will be responsible for any replacement costs of keys, locks, etc.
• All keys that have been checked -out will be returned to the City no later than 10 business days
following the end of a league's field use permit. All held sound system cabinets have been
preset to a desired sound level and locked with a padlock. Any league found responsible for
removing the lock without prior authorization will be responsible for the replacement of ALL
field sound system cabinet locks.
• The City of El Segundo Recreation & Parks Department reserves the right to issue keys to
organizations if keys are lost, stolen, misplaced, not returned by due date, or if it has been found
or reported to the department that you have illegally duplicated the key.
• You are responsible for the security of the key and the facility after the key is checked -out to
you. All gates and windows must be securely locked at (tie end of your permitted time..
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Meeting Rooms
Each Youth Sports Advisory Committee Organization may utilize Recreation and Parks Department
Facilities and Meeting Rooms when available throughout the year. These reservations may include but are
not limited to registration dates, board meetings, and coaches meetings. Organizations can make a
reservation by contacting the designated representative from the Recreation Department. Each group is
limited to the following number of reservations per calendar year:
• 1 monthly meeting (12 per calendar year)
• 3 registration meetings
• 3 miscellaneous meetings
• Photo day reservation as necessary
Field Maintenance
Rest and Renovation
An annual rest and renovation program is scheduled at all allocated sites. The City does attempt to be
flexible in accommodating user groups but, ultimately, the health and safety of the user and the condition
and playability of the fields or facilities takes priority. This may require the closure of fields or facilities,
denial of use of a field, and/or alternate sites for athletic use.
Fiel&Facility Closures
Fields /Facilities may be closed at the discretion of the Recreation Superintendent and/or Parks
Superintendent or their designated representatives. Closures are kept to a minimum when fields /facilities
remain in playable condition. Priority is given to maintenance needs and rest and renovation periods for
all fields. The City may close field facilities for any of the following:
City engages in work involving any of the fields or facilities.
When the health and safety of participants are threatened due to impending conditions, including
but not limited to, rain, muddy conditions, smog alerts, pesticide application and earthquakes.
Field Closures: ANNUAL
Stevenson Field: 2 "d week of December — February 14
George Brett Field: 2 "d week of December — 1 week before ESLL Opening Day
(Every other year City will close field in early September for rest and renovation)
Rec Park Softball Field:
Richmond St. Fields:
Campus El Segundo:
December 1— January 31
2 "d week of July — V day of school
None
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Athletic Field Lining/Marking
Youth Sports Advisory Committee Organizations may request special lining of City fields if approved by
the Recreation and Parks Department. Under no circumstances are organizations allowed to paint or burn
lines onto fields. Any organization failing to comply with these are subject to pay for all damages
occurring to the facility and may be subject to loss of field space.
Field Modifications
Requests to modify or improve any City facility shall be submitted for review to the City of El
Segundo Recreation Division for consideration. No permanent structures or equipment shall be erected
on facility unless approved by the City and is dedicated for community use.
Requests to modify field size for multiple -use shall be submitted for review to the City of El Segundo
Recreation Division for consideration. Users may not modify a field for use by more than two teams
without approval noted on your permit. Adding additional fields to a site without permission will result
in a Strike. Please see "Three Strikes Rule" page 14. Modified fields for multiple -use will be billed
appropriately.
Trash/Field Clean -Up
The City of El Segundo Recreation and Parks Department asks all youth leagues or athletic field user
groups to institute a field clean -up ,policy that will be enforced at all the fields and facilities for both games
and practices. It is each organizations responsibility to unsure that the following is
1. Following a game or practice session, teams are responsible for picking up all trash and debris at
or around the field or practice site. This applies whether the trash or debris was at the site before
the game or practice commenced. Teams are also to make sure that all equipment is picked up as
well.
2. Each Coach/ Manager is responsible for making sure that this policy is strictly enforced and
adhered to by coaching staff and players at every game and practice. City of El Segundo
Recreation and Parks Department Field Ambassadors will actively monitor the game, practice
fields and facilities to ensure that the policy is being followed.
Parks Maintenance Staff Field Safety
The City of El Segundo Recreation and Parks Department asks each youth sports organization or
athletic field user group to institute a no practice policy during any and all times that a Parks
Maintenance Staff i s working on the infield and/or play area. No team shall participate in any activity
that may endanger the Parks Maintenance Staff worker that is working on or preparing the field of play.
T his includes, but is not limited to, infield practice, hitting/batting practice and/or base running. It is
agreed upon that a reasonable amount of space/distance will be given to the Parks Maintenance 'Staff
to complete their tasks before any encroachment upon their work areas. Each organization is responsible
for making sure that this policy is strictly enforced and adhered to by managers /coaches.
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ATHLETICFIELDIFACILITY USE RULESAND REGULATIONS
1. Groups consisting often or more individuals wishing to utilize a field/facility must acquire a permit with the City of El Segundo.
2. It is the responsibility of the person in charge identified on the permit to enforce the rules and regulations regarding the conduct of
the group while on permitted facilities.
These rules include but are not limited to:
o Use will begin no earlier than 8 am — Monday — Saturday and no earlier than 9 am on Sunday. Use will end at dusk on
non- lighted fields and by 10 pm on all lighted fields; except Richmond St. Field, which closes at 9 pm. Please check
your permit for specific times you may access the fields.
o Use begins and ends at the times stated on the permit, including set -up and clean -up. Groups are not allowed on fields
prior to the start time on the permit and are required to have the fields clean, picked up and be off the fields at the
ending time indicated on the permit.
o Parking is allowed in designated areas only.
o Applicant's Field Use Permit must be available during use and presented to any City representative upon request.
o Alcoholic beverages are not allowed in City parks, fields, schools, or adjacent areas. (E.S. Municipal Code, SEC 13.04.040)
o Selling of food or other items is not allowed without City approval and will be noted on your permit,
o Amplified sound is not allowed on any field without City approval and will be noted on your permit. The use of
artificial noisemakers, horns, rattles, bells, and whistles by spectators are not allowed. Applicant is responsible for
notification to residents adjacent to the field requested during any and all special events.
o Permanent banners may not be posted without City approval and will be noted on your permit.
• Balls and any other equipment thrown, batted, kicked, or otherwise land on private property must not be retrieved
without the property owner's permission.
• Property boundary walls and fences are not to be used as backstops at any time.
• Portable goals and/or markers are allowed but must be removed daily.
• At the conclusion of games or practice each user group is responsible for picking up trash and debris and depositing it
into the proper trash bins. The field and any adjoining areas affected by a group's use must be picked up and cleared of
all trash.
o Please leave school and park areas immediately after games and practices safely and quietly, especially after late
games. Please practice being good neighbors in our residential neighborhoods.
3. Wet Field Policy: Groups may not play on fields closed due to wet field conditions. It is the responsibility of groups to access
field closure information by phoning the Recreation and Parks Department Field Conditions Hotline @ (310) 524 -2883
after 12 pm Monday — Friday or after 7:30 am Saturday and Sunday. (Updated with closure information as needed)
4. Non - adherence to any of these rules or City ordinance may result in the retention of a portion or all of the deposit and/or result in
the cancellation of current and/or prohibition offuture use.
Applicant Name:
Approved by
City Representative:
(print /Signature)
(Print)
(Signature) (Date)
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Application and Agreement Request For Use of City of El Segundo
Athletic Fields /Facilities
In accordance with the Joint Use Agreement between the City of El Segundo and El Segundo Unified School District, the City will be the responsible
agency for scheduling and permitting all City owned and Richmond Street fields and athletic facilities located within El Segundo City limits after 4
p.m. weekdays and all day on weekends. Submission of an Application and Agreement Request does not constitute approval. Approval is given
according to the allocation policy, field /facility availability, after fees are paid and when a permit is issued.
Organization —
Name of Applicant
Address
Home Phone ( )
Fax Number ( )
Field /Facility Requested
Description of Activity
Estimated Attendance
Day of Week Dates (s)
El Segundo Recreation Division
401 Sheldon Street El Segundo CA 90245
Phone 310 -524 -2700 FAX 310- 647 -4223
www.elsegundo.org
City & Zip
Day Phone ( )
E -Mail Address
Open to the Public Yes_ No
Start Time - Include Set -up End Time
** Lining /Marking of athletic fields is prohibited unless otherwise authorized by Parks Superintendent **
I verify that the information on this Application and Agreement Request for Use of Athletic Fields / Facilities form is correct as defined in the
Athletic Field Use & Allocation Policy and understand the possible consequences if the information is incorrect or misleading within the acceptable
boundaries as described in the allocation policy. I have read the Application and Agreement and agree to all provisions listed on this Application,
the Athletic Field Use & Allocation Policy, Rules and Regulations and disclaimers applied to issued permits and will communicate this information
to our coaches and participants.
Signature of Applicant
Date
Signature of Organization President or AD
Date
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** OFFICE USE ONLY * * * * * * * * * * * * + * * * + ** x * * * *+
ORGANIZATIONPRIORIY 1 2 3 4 5 6 PERMIT NUMBER
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The City of El Segundo does not assume responsibility of liability for claims, damages, or injuries, of
whatever nature, which may arise from use of the fields.
Dated this day of , 20
Fay:
. Recreation Supervisor or Designee
I, the authorized representative a/ , do
hereby acknowledge that I have read the terms and conditions of this field allocation policy; that the terms
and conditions are acceptable and User Group agrees to abide by, comply with, and accept full and complete
responsibility therefore.
Dated this day
By:
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ATHLETIC FIELD KEYPOLICY
Stevenson FielrUSoftball Fieldllnline Hockey Rink
1.) Each league president or vice - president will provide the City of El Segundo with a $200 key deposit prior to the
issuance of any keys to individual league representatives. This deposit will be held throughout the year, pending
the return of all keys to the City. At the completion of each league's field use permit and after all keys have been
returned to the City, the deposit will either be returned to the league or per your request, be carried over to the
next season.
2.) Each league president / vice - president will request, to the City, a reasonable number of keys to the field(s)
facilities that are referenced on their field use permit.
3.) Each key that is requested will require a $10 deposit (per key) by either the league or the individual responsible
for the key prior to issuance. This deposit will be refunded at the completion of the field use permit and upon the
return of the key(s).
4.) Each key that is checked out will require a signature of the league president / vice - president on this agreement
prior to key issuance.
S.) All deposits must be made by check, made payable to the City of El Segundo.
6.) All keys that have been checked -out will be returned to the City no later than 10 business days following the end
of a league's field use permit.
7.) All field sound system cabinets have been preset to a desired sound level and locked with a padlock. Any league
found responsible for removing the lock without prior authorization will be responsible for the replacement of
ALL field sound system cabinet locks. The cost of replacing the padlocks will be deducted from the above stated
$200 key deposit.
The City of El Segundo Recreation & Parks Department reserves the right to issue keys to organizations if keys are lost,
stolen, misplaced, not returned by due date, or if it has been found or reported to the department that you have illegally
duplicated the key. You are responsible for the security of the key and the facility after the key is checked -out to you.
REMINDERS:
1. Make sure the facility is secured ... this includes:
a. Closing ALL windows
b. Making sure ALL doors and gates have been CLOSED and SECURED
* By signing this form you agree to these policies regarding keys and clean -up for Athletic Fields
of
have read the above rules and agree to comply
Print Name Name of Organization
with all rules and regulations regarding my reservation of this field / facility.
Signature:
Number of Keys Requested:
Field
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EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATE: May 5, 2015
AGENDA STATEMENT AGENDA HEADING: Consent Agenda
AGENDA DESCRIPTION:
Consideration and possible action to receive and file this report regarding emergency
work to repair dwelling units at the Park Vista Senior Housing Facility due to water
intrusion without the need for bidding in accordance with Public Contracts Code §§
20168 and 22050 and El Segundo Municipal Code (`SSMC ")§ 1 -7 -12 and 1 -7A -4.
(Fiscal Impact: $50,000.00)
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION:
(1) Receive and file this report regarding emergency work to repair dwelling units at the
Park Vista Senior Housing Facility due to water intrusion without the need for
bidding in accordance with Public Contracts Code §§ 20168 and 22050 and El
Segundo Municipal Code ( "ESMC ")§ 1 -7 -12 and 1 -7A -4.
(2) Alternatively, discuss and take other possible action related to this item
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS:
None
FISCAL IMPACT: Included in Adopted Budget
Amount Budgeted: $50,000.00
Additional Appropriation: No
Account Number(s): 405- 400 - 0000 -6215 (Facilities Maintenance: Repairs and
Maintenance)
ORIGINATED BY: Stephanie Katsouleas, Director of Public Works 71
REVIEWED BY: Gregg Kovacevich, Assistant City Attorney
APPROVED BY: Greg Carpenter, City Manager
BACKGROUND AND DISCUSSION:
Emergency work to repair three dwelling units at the Park Vista Senior Housing Facility due to
water intrusion caused by improperly sloped decks is still underway. Surveying was completed
in January and designs for the repair, which included three primary options, were submitted at
the end of February to Public Works. The plans immediately went into planning and building
review, with comments /corrections returned to the contractor for minor revisions at the end of
February. Revised (final) plans will have already been received as of the date of this Council
Meeting. Once the final plans are approved, bidding and award of the construction portion of the
project will commence, which is expected in early May. Public Contracts Code § 22050 (c)
requires that the City Council receive updates at every regularly scheduled meeting until the
emergency repair is completed. Therefore, staff recommends that City Council receive and file
this report on the status of the emergency repair to address the water intrusion issues at Park
Vista Senior Housing Facility.
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EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATE: May 5, 2015
AGENDA STATEMENT AGENDA HEADING: Consent Agenda
AGENDA DESCRIPTION:
Consideration and possible action regarding a request for the expansion of on -site sale and
consumption of alcohol (Type 47 ABC License) for a new restaurant (Sausal) at 215 Main Street.
Applicant: Catherine Ann Conness. (Fiscal Impact: N /A)
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION:
Receive and file this report without objecting to the issuance of an alcohol license for the on-
site sale of beer, wine and distilled spirits for on -site consumption at a new restaurant at 215
Main Street; and /or
2. Alternatively, discuss and take other possible action related to this item.
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS:
1. Crime and Arrest Statistics by Reporting Districts (RD)
2. Police Reporting Districts Map
3. Planning Commission Staff Report, dated April 9, 2015
4. Planning Commission Staff Report, dated April 23, 2015
5. Administrative Use Permit Letter, dated April 1, 2015
FISCAL IMPACT: None
Amount Budgeted: N/A
Additional Appropriation: N/A
Account Number(s): N/A
ORIGINATED BY: Kimberly Christensen, AICP, Planning Manager y
REVIEWED BY: Sam Lee, Planning and Building Safety Directo
APPROVED BY: Greg Carpenter, City Manager,
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I. Background
In 1995, the City Council directed staff to bring all future Department of Alcoholic Beverage
Control (ABC) licenses to it for review. For alcohol sales at retail establishments, California
regulations require a 30 -day review and comment period after notifying local police and
planning departments. The grounds of a protest, if any, should relate to public health, safety or
welfare concerns. Based upon previous Council direction, staff is providing background
information regarding this application.
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II. Analysis
The license request would allow the sale of beer, wine, and distilled spirits for on -site
consumption in conjunction with the operations of a restaurant (Type 47) and would include a
small outdoor dining area in the public right -of -way. The former restaurant at the site has an
active Type 41 ABC License (On Sale Beer and Wine — Eating Place), which was operated by
"Indian Summers." The proposed interior space for the new restaurant will be expanded from
2,000 square feet to 3,947 square feet. The proposed new restaurant (Sausal) will contain a 1,667
square -foot indoor dining area with 102 seats, a 276 square -foot covered outdoor dining area
with 12 seats, and a 59 square -foot outdoor dining area in the public right -of -way facing Main
Street containing six seats. The applicant's proposed hours for alcohol sales will be the same as
the hours the restaurant is open, which is from 10 a.m. to 12:00 a.m., daily.
According to the most recent Crime and Arrest statistics report prepared by the Police
Department, the proposed restaurant is located in Reporting District (RD) 112. Based on the July
— December 2014 reported data prepared by the Police Department, the district had a total of 26
Part I crimes and 10 felony and misdemeanor arrests. "Part I crimes" include criminal homicide,
forcible rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary, larceny- theft, motor vehicle theft and arson.
The RD is considered a high crime area; however, because the site currently has an active Type
41 ABC License, the Police Department and the Planning and Building Safety Department do
not object to the Type 47 ABC License for a new restaurant.
The project site is located in the Main Street Transitional District (MSTD) within the Downtown
Specific Plan (DSP). Restaurants are a permitted use in this Zoning District in accordance with
Downtown Specific Plan (DSP) § VI 13.2(a)(ii). The proposed use (on -site sale and consumption
of beer, wine, and distilled spirits at a restaurant), requires the approval of an Administrative Use
Permit in accordance with DSP § VI BA(a).
On April 1, 2015, the Director of Planning and Building Safety approved an Administrative Use
Permit application (EA -1084, AUP 14 -04) for 215 Main Street, with conditions of approval. The
Director's decision was forwarded to the Planning Commission on April 9, 2015, and the item
was continued to April 23, 2015, by the Commission. On April 23, 2015, the Planning
Commission Received and Filed the Director's decision.
ABC license review requires mandatory findings that are regulated by ABC. The City's AUP
process is separate. ABC is responsible for running a complete background check on all alcohol
license applicants, as well as conducting site inspections, before issuing any type of alcohol
license.
III. Environmental Review
The project is categorically exempt from the requirements of the California Environmental
Quality Act (CEQA) pursuant to 14 California Code of Regulations § 15301 as a Class 1
categorical exemption (Existing Facilities). The project is a request for an alcohol license for a
new restaurant, which results in a negligible expansion of use in the operation of an existing
building (with an existing ABC license). The project is not anticipated to have any significant
impacts with regard to traffic, noise, air quality or water quality.
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IV. Conclusion
Planning staff recommends that the Council receive and file this report without objecting to a
new Type 47 ABC license for the on -site sale of beer, wine and distilled spirits for on -site
consumption at a new restaurant at 215 Main Street, or alternatively discuss and take another
action related to this item.
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EL SEGUNDO POLICE DEPARTMENT
REPORTED PERIOD: JULY - DECEMBER, 2014
PART I & II CRIMES AND ARRESTS BY REPORTING DISTRICT RD
REPORTING
DISTRICT
PART I &II
CRIMES
FELONY /MISD
ARRESTS
TOTAL
AVERAGE BY RD
PERCENTAGE +/-
11
44
+132%
102
25
11
36
+89%
103
1
7
25
+32%
10
3
27
+42%
05
1 21
5
26
+37%
106
1 6
4
10
-47%
107
26
8
34
+79%
108
11
2
13
-32%
109
11
5
16
-16%
110
4
3
7
-63%
111
16
4
20
+5%
112
26
10
36
+89%
3
14
37
+950/0
114
0
0
0
0
115
13
10
23
+21%
116
5
4
9
-53%
201
12
5
17
-11%
202
14
7
21
+11%
203
11
5
16
-16%
204
0
0
0
0
205
22
7
29
+53%
206
10
4
14
-26 %
207
27
11
38
+100%
208
25
7
32
+68%
209
25
6
31
+63%
210
38
19
57
+200%
211
19
11
30
+58%
212
22
11
33
+74%
213
12
10
22
+16%
14
1
0
1
-95%
301
10
6
16
-16%
302
4
2
6
-68%
303
2
0
2
-89%
304
8
3
11
-42%
305
4
3
7
-63%
306
4
2
6
-68%
307
9
2
11
-42%
-308
31
13
44
+132 %
_ 309
6
3
9
-53%
310
2
0
2
-89%
311
6
2
8
-58%
312
4
1
5
-74%
313
2
0
2
-89%
314
1
0
1
-95%
315
5
1
6
-68%
316
3
1
4
-79%
317
7
5
12
-37%
318
49
13
62
+226%
1
26
11
37
+95%
320
7
3
10
-47%
321
0
0
0
0
322
5
3
8
-58%
323
4
4
8
-58%
TOTALS
699
282
981
Number of Reporting Districts = 53
Average # of Part I & II Crimes per Reporting District = 13
Average # of Felony /Misdemeanor Part I & II Crime Arrests per Reporting District = 5
Average # of Crimes and Arrests per Reporting District = 19
Results from 07/01/2015 through 12/31/2015
efr ° _ e _. On,239 8.4 = >20/a
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CITY OF EL SEGUNDO
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT
PLANNING COMMISSION:
MEETING: April 9, 2015
SUBJECT: Director of Planning and Building Safety Decisions
for Administrative Use Permits, Adjustments and
Administrative Determinations
REQUEST: Receive and File Director of Planning and Building
Safety Decision(s).
APPLICATION(S)/
ADDRESS(ES): 1) Environmental Assessment No. EA -1084,
Administrative Use Permit No. AUP 14 -04, and
Downtown Design Review No. MISC 14 -07 at 215-
217 Main Street
2) Environmental Assessment No. EA -1102 and
Administrative Determination No. AD 15 -01 at
2151 Rosecrans Avenue, Suite 7050
I. INTRODUCTION
The Director of Planning and Building Safety issued the following decisions:
1) Approved - Environmental Assessment No. EA -1084, Administrative
Use Permit No. (AUP) 14 -04 and Downtown Design Review No. MISC
14 -07
Administrative Use Permit by the Director of Planning and Building
Safety regarding a request to allow the sale of beer, wine and distilled
spirits for on -site consumption at a new restaurant, and design
approval for the construction of a new outdoor dining area in front of
the building in the public right -of -way.
Address: 215 -217 Main Street
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2)
Applicant: Catherine Anne Conness
Property Owner: Bradley J.M. Conroy and Amy J. Conroy, Trustees of
the Conroy Family Trust
The proposed project will allow the sale of beer, wine, and distilled spirits for
on -site consumption at a new restaurant (Sausal) that includes an outdoor
dining area in the public right -of -way in the Main Street Transitional District
(MSTD) within the Downtown Specific Plan (DSP) Zone. The proposed
restaurant is 4,006 square feet and will contain three dining areas. A 1,667
square -foot interior dining area with 102 seats, a 276 square -foot covered
outdoor dining area with 12 seats, and a 59 square -foot outdoor dining area
in the public right -of -way with 6 seats.
The proposed hours of operation for the restaurant are 10:00 a.m. to 12:00
a.m., Monday through Sunday, and the proposed hours for the sale of
alcohol for all three dining areas are 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 a.m., Monday
through Sunday.
The proposed project is categorically exempt from the requirements of the
California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) pursuant to 14 California Code
of Regulations § 15301 as a Class 1 categorical exemption (Existing
Facilities) and pursuant to 14 California Code of Regulations § 15303 as a
Class 3 categorical exemption (New Construction or Conversion of Small
Structures). The project includes an alcohol license for a new restaurant,
which results in a minor alteration in the operation of an existing building
involving minor tenant improvements and the addition of a 59 square -foot
outdoor dining area in the public right -of -way. The project results in a minor
alteration in the operation of an existing building involving a negligible
expansion of an existing commercial use. The project is not anticipated to
have any significant impacts with regard to traffic, noise, air quality or water
quality.
Approved- Environmental Assessment No. EA -1102 and Administrative
Determination No. AD 15 -01
Administrative Determination by the Director of Planning and Building
Safety that a proposed 520 square -foot mezzanine addition inside the
existing "The Plaza" commercial building does not exceed the
development limits of the existing Project approval (Precise Plan No.
PP 98 -2 /EA -456).
Address: 2151 Rosecrans Avenue, Suite 7050
Applicant: Toni Reina
Property Owner: The Plaza CP, LLC
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The proposed project is a 520 square -foot mezzanine addition for an office
use within an existing 2,052 square -foot office suite with a 23' -0" high ceiling.
Currently, the Project site is developed with 458,660 square feet of
development. Precise Plan No. PP 98 -2 approved up to a maximum of
460,600 square -feet of development at the Project site and evaluated the
environmental impacts of a project for that amount of development. Section
4.0 of the adopted Precise Plan No. PP 98 -2 "Development Plan and
Standards for The Plaza at Continental Park" identifies that the Director of
Planning and Building Safety may approve an Administrative Determination
that a "proposed use and density /intensity does not exceed the CEQA
clearance" of 460,600 square feet. The Director of Planning and Building
Safety has determined that the 520 square -foot addition for office uses is
consistent with the existing Project approval for "The Plaza" commercial
building site and the request to add the mezzanine does not exceed the
development limits of the existing Project approval.
A Negative Declaration was originally adopted for this Project as part of City
Council approval of Precise Plan No. PP 1 -81 (Resolution No. 3062) on April
21, 1981. The City Council approved a Precise Plan Amendment (PP 98 -2)
for the project site in in 1998. The City Council determined that PP 98 -2 was
within the scope of the development limits established by the approval of PP
1 -81 and no additional environmental analysis was required. The proposed
520 square -foot mezzanine addition does not result in total development at
the Project site to exceed the 460,600 square foot development threshold
identified as the "Maximum Allowable Development under CEQA Clearance"
in Precise Plan No. PP 98 -2. Therefore, environmental impacts of the
subject 520 square -foot addition were analyzed as part of Precise Plan No.
PP 98 -2. Pursuant to CEQA Guidelines § 15162, no new environmental
documentation is required for this proposed project.
II. RECOMMENDATION
Receive and File.
III. EXHIBITS
A. Environmental Assessment No. EA -1084, Administrative Use Permit No. AUP
14 -04, and Downtown Design Review No. MISC 14 -07 Director Decision Letter
dated April 1, 2015 for the property at 215 -217 Main Street and plans.
B. Environmental Assessment No. EA -1102 and Administrative Determination No.
AD 15 -01 Director Decision Letter dated April 2, 2015 for the property at 2151
Rosecrans Avenue and plans.
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CITY OF EL SEGUNDO
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT
PLANNING COMMISSION:
MEETING: April 23, 2015
SUBJECT: Director of Planning and Building Safety Decisions
for Administrative Use Permits, Adjustments and
Administrative Determinations
REQUEST: Receive and File Director of Planning and Building
Safety Decision(s).
APPLICATION(S)/
ADDRESS(ES): 1) Environmental Assessment No. EA -1084,
Administrative Use Permit No. AUP 14 -04, and
Downtown Design Review No. MISC 14 -07 at 215-
217 Main Street
I. INTRODUCTION
The Director of Planning and Building Safety issued the following decisions:
1) Approved - Environmental Assessment No. EA -1084, Administrative
Use Permit No. (AUP) 14 -04 and Downtown Design Review No. MISC
14 -07
Administrative Use Permit by the Director of Planning and Building
Safety regarding a request to allow the sale of beer, wine and distilled
spirits for on -site consumption at a new restaurant, and design
approval for the construction of a new outdoor dining area in front of
the building in the public right -of -way.
Address: 215 -217 Main Street
Applicant: Catherine Anne Conness
Property Owner: Bradley J.M. Conroy and Amy J. Conroy, Trustees of
the Conroy Family Trust
This agenda item was continued from the last regularly scheduled Planning
Commission meeting on April 9, 2015. In addition, the Planning Commission
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received the following attached communication via e-mail regarding this item.
(See Exhibit B).
The proposed project will allow the sale of beer, wine, and distilled spirits for
on -site consumption at a new restaurant (Sausal) that includes an outdoor
dining area in the public right -of -way in the Main Street Transitional District
(MSTD) within the Downtown Specific Plan (DSP) Zone. The proposed
restaurant is 4,006 square feet and will contain three dining areas. A 1,667
square -foot interior dining area with 102 seats, a 276 square -foot covered
outdoor dining area with 12 seats, and a 59 square -foot outdoor dining area
in the public right -of -way with 6 seats.
The proposed hours of operation for the restaurant are 10:00 a.m. to 12:00
a.m., Monday through Sunday, and the proposed hours for the sale of
alcohol for all three dining areas are 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 a.m., Monday
through Sunday.
The proposed project is categorically exempt from the requirements of the
California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) pursuant to 14 California Code
of Regulations § 15301 as a Class 1 categorical exemption (Existing
Facilities) and pursuant to 14 California Code of Regulations § 15303 as a
Class 3 categorical exemption (New Construction or Conversion of Small
Structures). The project includes an alcohol license for a new restaurant,
which results in a minor alteration in the operation of an existing building
involving minor tenant improvements and the addition of a 59 square -foot
outdoor dining area in the public right -of -way. The project results in a minor
alteration in the operation of an existing building involving a negligible
expansion of an existing commercial use. The project is not anticipated to
have any significant impacts with regard to traffic, noise, air quality or water
quality.
IL RECOMMENDATION
Receive and File.
Ill. EXHIBITS
A. Environmental Assessment No. EA -1084, Administrative Use Permit No. AUP
14 -04, and Downtown Design Review No. MISC 14 -07 Director Decision Letter
dated April 1, 2015 for the property at 215 -217 Main Street and plans.
B. Social media posts received by City on April 6, 2015.
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Department o lanning & Building Safety
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Planning & Building Safety Department
Elected Officials:
Suzanne Fuentes,
Mayor
Carl Jacobson,
Mayor Pro Tom
Dave Atkinson,
CFollha er,
Marie Fallhauer,
CouncltMember
April 1, 2015
Catherine Anne Conness
86 Prospect Avenue
Long Beach, CA 90803
RE: Environmental Assessment No. EA -1084 € Administrative Use
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Permit No. AUP 14 -04 and Downtown Design Review No. MISC
14 -07 To allow the sale of beer, wine and distilled spirits for on-
Michael Dugan,
Coueave lMomber
site consumption (Type 47 ABC License) at a new restaurant
Tracy Weaver,
City Clark
(Sausal) and design approval for the construction of a 59 square -
Crfsfa Binder,
City Treasurer
foot outdoor dining area in the public right -of -way.
Appointed officials:
Address: 215 -217 Main Street
Grog Carpenter,
CltyManagor
Dear Ms. Conness:
Mark D. Hensley,
C19y Atlomoy
This letter is to inform you that, in accordance with El Segundo Municipal
Department Directors:
Code ( °ESMC ") Chapter 15 -22, the Planning Division reviewed your
application for the above - referenced project and the Director of Planning
Deborah Cullen,
Finance
and Buildin g Y Safet APPROVED Environmental Assessment No. EA -1084
Kevin Smith,
Fire Chief
and Administrative Use Permit No. AUP 14 -07 for the sale of beer, wine
Martha DlJkstra,
Human Resources
and distilled spirits for on -site consumption at a new restaurant containing
Debra Brighton,
Library Services
three dining areas at 215 -217 Main Street. The Administrative Use Permit
Sam Loo,
Planning 8
approval includes 1,667 square-foot interior dining rea, a 276 s uare-
p p rova es a q g
Building safety
Mitch Tevem,
foot covered outdoor dining area and a 59 square -foot outdoor dining area
Police Chief
Stephanie Kelsouleas,
in front of the building in the public right -of -way. The following are the
Public Works
Meredith Petit,
findings and facts in support of each finding for this decision:
Recreation d Parks
FINDINGS AND FACTS IN SUPPORT OF FINDINGS:
Environmental Assessment No. EA -1084
www.elsegundo.org
Finding 1
s The proposed project is categorically exempt from the requirements
of the California Environmental Quality Act ( "CEQA ") pursuant to 14
California Code of Regulations § 15301 as a Class 1 categorical
exemption (Existing Facilities) and pursuant to 14 California Code
350 Main Street, El Segundo, California 90245 -3813
Phone (310) 524 -2380 FAX (310) 322 -4167
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of Regulations § 15303 as a class 3 categorical exemption (New
Construction or Conversion of Small Structures).
Facts in Support of Finding 1
The applicant requests approval to allow the sale of beer, wine and distilled
spirits for on -site consumption (Type 47 Department of Alcoholic Beverage
Control (ABC) License) at a new 3,947 square -foot restaurant and design
approval for the construction of a new 59 square -foot outdoor dining area in front
of an existing building in the public right -of -way. The proposed restaurant will
occupy a 2,000 square -foot lease space that is currently used as an Indian
restaurant ( "Indian Summers "), which has an active Type 41 ABC License (On
Sale Beer & Wine — Eating Place). The proposed new restaurant is within an
existing mixed -use commercial shopping center with surface parking and other
restaurants. The proposed interior lease space for the new restaurant will be
expanded from 2,000 square feet to 3,947 square feet within the existing building
through the regular permitting process, and will also include a new 59 square -
foot outdoor dining area in front of the building in the public right -of -way. The
project results in a minor alteration in the operation of an existing building
involving a negligible expansion of an existing commercial use. The project is not
anticipated to have any significant impacts with regard to traffic, noise, air quality,
or water quality.
Administrative Use Permit No. AUP 14 -04
Finding 1
There is compatibility of the particular use on the particular site in relationship to
other existing and potential uses within the general area in which the use is
proposed to be located.
Facts in Support of Finding 1
The applicant proposes on -site sale of beer, wine and distilled spirits (Type 47
ABC License) for on -site consumption at a new 3,947 square -foot restaurant with
a new 59 square -foot outdoor dining area in front of the building in the public
right -of -way. The proposed restaurant is 4,006 square feet and will contain three
dining areas as follows: 1) 1,667 square -foot interior dining area with 102 seats;
2) 276 square -foot covered outdoor dining area with 12 seats; and 3) 59 square -
foot outdoor dining area in the public right -of -way with six seats. Alcohol service
is proposed in all three dining areas with a total of 120 seats.
2. The site contains a mixed -use commercial shopping center with surface parking
and a subgrade parking level below the financial institution. Adequate parking is
provided at the site for all of the existing uses and no additional off - street parking
spaces are required for a change in use within an existing building or an addition
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of an outdoor dining area that is less than 200 square feet in accordance with
DSP §§ VII(3)(b) (iii) and VII (10).
3. The General Plan land use designation for the site is Downtown Specific Plan.
The Downtown Specific Plan land use designation permits community serving
retail, service, office uses in a pedestrian - oriented environment and includes the
Civic Center.
4. The proposed restaurant is compatible with the surrounding land uses which
include: commercial retail, bank, brewery, art museum, gas station, theater,
parking, bars, and restaurants. The proposed restaurant is compatible with the
surrounding uses and the existing commercial mixed -use shopping center.
5. The zoning for the site is Main Street Transitional District (MSTD) within the
Downtown Specific Plan (DSP), and the site is located on the block bounded by
Main Street to the east, Richmond Street to the west, Grand Avenue to the north,
and Franklin Avenue to the south. Restaurants are a permitted use in this Zoning
District in accordance with Downtown Specific Plan (DSP) § VI 6.2(a)(ii). The
proposed use (on -site sale and consumption of beer and wine at a restaurant)
requires an Administrative Use Permit in accordance with DSP § VI BA(a). The
proposed use (sale of alcohol at a restaurant with a combined total of 4,006
square feet of interior and outdoor dining area), requires an Administrative Use
Permit in accordance with DSP § VI BA(a).
6. On April 9, 2015, the El Segundo Planning Commission is scheduled to Receive
and File the Administrative Use Permit request.
Finding _2
The proposed use is consistent and compatible with the purpose of the Zone in
which the site is located.
Facts in Support of Finding 2
1. The General Plan land use designation for the site is Downtown Specific Plan
2. The zoning for the site is Main Street Transitional District (MSTD) within the
Downtown Specific Plan. Restaurants are a permitted use in this Zoning District
on the first floor and street -level in accordance with Downtown Specific Plan
(DSP) § VI 13.2(a)(ii). The proposed use (sale of beer, wine and distilled spirits for
on -site consumption at a new restaurant with a 1,667 square -foot interior dining
area, a 276 square -foot covered dining area, and a 59 square -foot outdoor dining
area in the public right -of -way), requires an Administrative Use Permit in
accordance with DSP § VI BA(a).
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3. The Main Street Transitional District (MSTD) is an extension of and transition to
the Main Street District, with less pedestrian oriented development and fewer
pedestrian amenities. This area also has a wider variety of uses, including a
church, lodge, single - family residential uses, surface parking lots, light industrial
uses, and some commercial uses. The sale of alcohol at a new restaurant is a
commercial use that will serve the local residents, local employees, and visitors
to the city. The proposed use is consistent with the zone in that it serves
residents, local employees, and visitors in an existing mixed -use commercial
building within the Downtown Specific Plan.
4. The proposed use is consistent with the goals, objectives, policies, and programs
of the Downtown Specific Plan by expanding the neighborhood serving
commercial uses, maintaining the "small town" atmosphere DSP Land Use Goal
LU1 with moderate density, and improving the business environment of
Downtown.
5. The proposed use is consistent with Economic Development Goal ED3 in that it
preserves and improves the business environment and image of Downtown El
Segundo. The proposed use is consistent with Objective ED3 -1 of economic
development in that it contributes to El Segundo's commercial options. The
proposed is consistent with Policy 3 -1.2, 3 -1.3, and 3 -1.5 in that it preserves
Downtown's economic viability, encourages revitalization efforts that improve the
appearance of Downtown businesses, and encourages a mix of retail and
commercial businesses that stimulate pedestrian traffic and meet the changing
needs for goods and services of the community.
6. The proposed use is consistent with Land Use Element Goal LU4 in that it
provides a stable tax base for the City through development of new commercial
uses without adversely affecting the viability of Downtown. The proposed use is
consistent with Objective LU4 -2 in that it serves as a focal point for the civic,
business and social environment of the community. The proposed use is
consistent with Policy LU4 -2.1 as it revitalizes and upgrades commercial areas,
making them a part of a viable, attractive and people- oriented commercial
district.
7. The surrounding land uses include: commercial retail, financial institution,
brewery, art museum, gas station, theater, parking, bars, and restaurants. The
proposed restaurant use is compatible with the surrounding uses. Other
restaurants in the same district have active alcohol licenses for the sale of beer,
wine and distilled spirits for on -site consumption.
Finding 3
The proposed location and use and the conditions under which the use would be
operated or maintained will not be detrimental to the public health, safety, or
welfare, or materially injurious to properties or improvements in the vicinity.
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Facts in Support of Finding 3
1. The project site currently has an active Type 41 ABC License for the former
restaurant (Indian Summers). The applicant proposes an expansion of the
commercial lease space for a restaurant that will include the sale of beer, wine,
and distilled spirits for onsite consumption through the approval of a (Type 47
ABC License) for three dining areas.
2. The proposed restaurant is located in the Downtown Specific Plan (DSP) Zone
within the Main Street Transitional District (MSTD) and includes a new 59
square -foot outdoor dining area in the public right -of -way. The restaurant meets
the development standards of the (DSP) Zone and the required parking will be
provided in compliance with (DSP) §§ VII(3)(b)(iii) and VII(10) which allows
existing buildings with permitted uses to change in use without providing
additional on -site parking spaces.
3. The surrounding land uses include: commercial retail, brewery, bank, art
museum, gas station, music hall, parking, bars and restaurants. The new
restaurant is a permitted use within the Downtown Specific Plan (DSP) Zone and
the sale of beer, wine and distilled spirits is permitted with an Administrative Use
Permit.
4. The proposed hours of operation for the restaurant are: 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 a.m.,
Monday through Sunday and the sale of alcohol is proposed from 10:00 a.m. to
12:00 a.m., Monday through Sunday. No amplified sound or live entertainment is
proposed for the restaurant or the outdoor dining area in the public right -of -way.
Therefore, the proposed hours of operation for alcohol sales and the location of
the restaurant will help minimize impacts that would be detrimental to the public
health, safety, or welfare, or injurious to surrounding properties or uses in the
vicinity of the site.
Finding 4
Potential impacts that could be generated by the proposed use, such as noise,
smoke, dust, fumes, vibration, odors, traffic, and hazards have been recognized
and mitigated.
Facts in Support of Finding 4
The sale of alcohol will not create any new impacts that would not be normally
associated with the operation of a restaurant with indoor and outdoor dining
areas, as the site currently has an active Type 41 ABC License for the sale of
beer and wine for onsite consumption.
2. No additional parking demand is anticipated for the proposed alcohol service for
a new restaurant. The proposed food service and sale of alcohol for on -site
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consumption will be accommodated by the existing off - street parking spaces
available at the site.
3. The proposed hours of operation for alcohol sales and the location of the
restaurant will help to minimize impacts on surrounding uses.
4. The proposed hours of operation for the restaurant are: 10:00 a.m. to 12:60 a.m.,
Monday through Sunday and the sale of alcohol is proposed from 10:00 a.m. to
12:00 a.m., Monday through Sunday. Food service will be available during the
hours of operation.
5. In addition to complying with the requirements of the City of El Segundo and the
ABC, the restaurant is subject to County Health Department regulations that
address and monitor impacts of fumes and odors.
Fin. ding 5
The State Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control has issued or will issue a
license to sell alcohol to the applicant.
Facts in Support of Finding 5
The applicant must obtain a Type 47 ABC license.
PLANNING AND BUILDING SAFETY DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR ACTION
Based on these findings and facts in support of these findings, the Planning and
Building Safety Department Director APPROVES the proposed project, subject to the
following conditions:
1. The proposed hours of operation for the restaurant are; 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 a.m.,
Monday through Sunday and the sale of alcohol is proposed from 10:00 a.m. to
12:00 a.m. Monday through Sunday. Food service must be available at the
restaurant during the hours of operation. Any change to the hours of operation or
the hours that alcohol may be served is subject to review and approval by the
Director of Planning and Building Safety.
2. The maximum indoor dining area for the restaurant is 1,667 square feet with 102
seats, the maximum covered outdoor dining area is 276 square feet with 12
seats, and the maximum outdoor dining area in the public right -of- -way is 59
square feet with 6 seats. The sUbject site will contain a combined maximum total
of 120 seats.
3. Any subsequent modification to the project as approved, including the floor plan
and areas where alcohol will be served, and /or the conditions of approval must
be referred to the Director of Planning or designee and Building Safety for
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approval and a determination regarding the need for Planning Commission
review of the proposed modification.
4. Taxicab phone numbers must be posted in a conspicuous location at all times in
the area(s) where alcohol is served to customers.
5. The premises must be maintained in a litter and graffiti -free manner. Any graffiti
that should appear on the premises must be removed within 48 hours.
6. The applicant must maintain all licenses required by the Alcoholic Beverage
Control Act (Business & Professions Code §§ 23300 of seq.). The applicant must
maintain a Type 47 license.
7. The restaurant operations must comply with ESMC §§ 7 -2 -1, et seq. regulating
noise and vibration.
8. The Planning and Building Safety department and the Police Department must
be notified of any change of ownership of the approved use in writing within 10
days of the completion of the change of ownership. A change in project
ownership may be cause to schedule a hearing before the Planning Commission
regarding the status of the administrative use permit.
9. The applicant must comply with all regulations of the Alcoholic Beverage Control
Act and the regulations promulgated by the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board
including, without limitation, the regulations set forth in 4 Cal. Code of Regs. §§
55, of seq.
10. The applicant must post a sign in a clear and conspicuous location listing a
phone number at which a responsible party may be contacted during all open
hours of the establishment to address any concerns of the community regarding
noise in the restaurant, two outdoor dining areas and parking lot. Said contact's
name and phone number must also be available through the restaurant staff at
all times.
11. The applicant must, at all times, display a Designated ,Driver sign of at least
ten inches by ten inches (10" X 1011) in all three dining areas of the restaurant at
eye level. The sign must be worded in a way that reminds patrons who are
consuming alcohol to designate a non - drinking driver.
12. There must be no exterior advertising of any kind or type, including advertising
directed to the exterior from within, promoting or indicating the availability of
alcoholic beverages. Interior displays of alcoholic beverages which are clearly
visible to the exterior constitute a violation of this condition.
13. The licensee and employees selling alcoholic beverages to patrons must
complete a training program offered by the California Department of Alcoholic
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Beverage Control (ABC) on alcohol responsibility and the law. The training must
be offered to new employees on a quarterly basis.
14. All employees hired to sell alcoholic beverages must provide evidence that they
have either:
a. Completed training from the State of California Department of Alcoholic
Beverage Control (ABC), Long Beach /Lakewood District Office administered
Licensee Education on Alcohol and Drugs (LEAD) Program; or,
b. Completed an approved equivalent (LEAD) training program administered
by the ABC, Long Beach/Lakewood District Office to ensure proper
distribution of alcoholic beverages safely, responsibly and to adults of legal
age. Any future employee designated to sell alcoholic beverages on behalf
of the licensee or applicant must obtain a certificate proving completion of
the (LEAD) training; and
c. The licensee or applicant must confirm with the Planning and Building
Safety Director, or designee, within fifteen (15) days of the Director's
decision as to the approval of the application, or by final project approval,
that a date certain has been scheduled with the local ABC Office to
complete the LEAD training program.
d. Within thirty (30) days of taking said course, the employees, or responsible
employer must deliver each required certificate showing completion to the
Police Department.
15. The applicant must have readily identifiable personnel to monitor and control the
behavior of customers inside the building premises. Staff must monitor activity
outside in the parking lot and any adjacent property under the establishment's
control to ensure the areas are generally free of people and are cleared of
patrons and their vehicles one -half hour after closing.
16. The City may, in its discretion, take action to review this Administrative Use
Permit, including without limitation, adding conditions or revoking the permit, to
enforce applicable regulations of the ESMC or this Administrative Use Permit.
17. If complaints are received regarding excessive noise, parking availability, lighting,
building access, and the like associated with the restaurant and the outdoor
dining areas, the City may, in its discretion, take action to review the
Administrative Use Permit, including without limitation, adding conditions or
revoking the permit.
18. The outdoor seating area for dining must comply with ESMC § 15 -2 -16
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19. The building must not be occupied by more persons than allowed by the
California Building Code, as adopted by the ESMC.
20. The building and any outdoor seating must comply with California Building and
Fire Code requirements, as adopted by the ESMC.
21. The applicant must maintain grease interceptors for the restaurant subject to
approval by the Fire Department.
22. The Applicant agrees to indemnify and hold the City harmless from and against
any claim, action, damages, costs (including, without limitation, attorney's fees),
injuries, or liability, arising from the City's approval of Environmental Assessment
No. 1084, Administrative Use Permit No. AUP 14 -04, and Downtown Design
Review MISC No. 14 -07. Should the City be named in any suit, or should any
claim be brought against it by suit or otherwise, whether the same be groundless
or not, arising out of the City approval of EA -1084, AUP 14 -04, and MISC No. 14-
07, the Applicant agrees to defend the City (at the City's request and with
counsel satisfactory to the City) and will indemnify the City for any judgment
rendered against it or any sums paid out in settlement or otherwise. For purposes
of this section "the City" includes the City of El Segundo's elected officials,
appointed officials, officers, and employees.
PLANNING COMMISSION
Please be advised that this does not conclude the review process. This determination
will be transmitted to the Planning Commission at its April 9, 2015 meeting with the
recommendation that the Planning Commission Receive and File the determination.
The City Council will determine whether or not to protest the issuance of the ABC
License (Type 47) at its meeting on May 5, 2015.
If you have any questions regarding this project, please contact Maria Baldenegro,
Project Planner, at (310) 524 -2341.
Sincerely,
Lee, D
of Planning and Building Safety
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By signing this document, Catherine Anne Conness and Steven Taylor certify that they
read, understood, and agree to the Project Conditions listed in this document.
Catherine Anne Conness, (Applicant)
Owner of Sausal Restaurant
Steven Taylor, (Property Owners' Agent's Signature)
Asset Manager
(If Corporation or similar entity, needs two officer signatures or evidence that one
signature hinds the company}
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Mike Van Kleeck Drew Boyles comme ^led on this.
Neff Cadman v El Segundo Parents Network
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Not sure how I feel about this yet, and would appreciate comments: Has
anybody seen the public notice of hearing for the new Mexican restaurant
coming into the old Indian Summer/Electric Bikes L.A. space on Main
Street? The hearing for public review is this Thursday at 5:30 PM in the
council chambers. As a restaurant owner in town, 1 welcome new places as
El Segundo is really becoming a destination for dining, but have some
concerns about the City posting that the use will have NO impact on traffic,
congestion, etc. Given this is across the street from Rock n Brews, where
are patrons going to park for a 120 person capacity? Indian Summer
moved, according to the owner, because his patrons told him due to Rock n
Brews, they had nowhere to park; I hope this does not hurt Natural
Simplicitylll
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n5 You, Samantha Frio Hedding and 4 others like this.
1 Heather Harding I'm wondering about parking too ... I'm fortunate enough to
that I can walk to the restaurants and bars in that area. I have had park before
and it's a nightmarell Don't we have enough Mexican restaurants in ES?
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rPamela Jensen -Green Agree that corner is very busy and there is a Mexican
restaurant right across the street.
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L� Veronica See Bryce Um, you mean'public' notice?
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��}pp Nell Cadman Fixed ill Sorry!
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Susan Fowler I welcome new business to El Segundo. It's nice to see our
little town flourish. However, the welcome mat should be extended only when
the plan is thoroughly planned and does not have a negative impact on other
businesses In the Immediate area. Bringing a 120 person capacity restaurant
to an already heavily traveled pedestrian and vehicle area with a lack of
parking is not a thoroughly planned project.
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Shannon Kahn- Magid Oh my God do we really need another Mexican
Q restaurant? If fabulous ones in this town let's move onto a new genre!
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Nell Cadman Shannon Kahn- Magid, this is going to be less Beach Mex
casual and more steak, mariscos, etc.
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�r Heather Harding How is it different from El Tarasco or LaPaz?
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A iCadman My understanding Is it has several course meals ... more like "fine
dining "...assuming more like a Cozumel's.
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Narelle A. Sheehan I am concerned about the pubic notice and the Natural
Simplicity in one article. ( sorry I couldn't resistl)
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Beck Cadman Ha Ha Narelle A. Sheehan, maybe the
?A,,. I Y y city council is being
very thorough with their meetings these days
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ISM Gwendolyn Tremall Lipsey And we are fun up on Mexican food places. How
about a place we can buy a dang bagel in town?
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Mary Busch What if we reached a compromise? What if the restaurant were
allowed to open but with a reduced capacity? I would hate to see a new
potentially great restaurant not given a chance just because there are "enough
of that kind of restaurant already." Ste... See More
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Nell Cadman I appreciate everyone's comments. I learned when we got into
r this business to embrace competition, it makes you better and on your toes
and helps a neighborhood. I will say, and this is my main concern, is that I
once asked some people dining, who I did not recognize, where they were
from and the answers were usually Manhattan and Hermosa Beach. I asked,
well, why El Segundo when each of those towns have the equivalent of what
we have here and part of each answer was 'I can park in El Segundo without
meters and valet parking ". This is my concern; we have The Point opening
with many food services with parking and I fear our downtown core is once
again going to be left behind by possibly squeezing ourselves out of space for
customers. Honestly, Rock n Brews has been a game changer for the City and
I cant complain, except it really has destroyed the parking in the entire area -
Main, Richmond, Grand .... and I can only think how places like the Tavern,
Indian Summer, etc. were impacted by it. I fear some of us are going to have
to resort to leasing out lots at night and have valet parking in order to survive.
We paid a parking in lieu fee for future parking considerations and while the
diagonal parking has helped some places, we have been negatively impacted
because we have three establishments all in a row with residential rentals
around and I can never park on our blockl Thanks again for the thoughts!
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V41W Derek Pugh Would the downtown restaurant owners/business owners be
willing to pony up for another parking garage for parking in the area (there's
the one by the 99 cent store) both Hermosa & Manhattan Beach have multiple
downtown parking garages to support business. All of theirs are paid parking,
which is a different vibe than El Segundo, but possibly a solution could be
found?
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[' a Michael Earley The businesses would never be able to afford to buy land and
build a garage. That would be at least a million in investment. There are
currently about 5 restaurantstbusinesses for sale in the downtown area who
are having a hard time making it as is. The garage at the 99 cents store Is way
under utilized. Maybe If that garage was better advertised? I brought a client to
Main Street who was considering leasing a location and he came to visit
around 8 pm on a week night and after 10 min he said that there was not
enough traffic to warrant the investment. I think that if someone is willing to
invest In a place, I would suggest just where this restaurant is located. In fact I
inquired at the flower shop to see if my client could lease the location. I was
told it was already leased to the Mexican restaurant. It is the only area that has
any traffic at night. I think people would walk from the .99 cent store garage
over to that location. Maybe Rock and Brews can cut a deal with Chevron to
use one of the main street employee lots at night?
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Carrie Hlckert Can a deal be made with chevron to use their parking lots at
night?
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Michael Earley I just posted the same question Carrie Hicken Great minds
L` • think alike : )
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Carrie Hlckert Haha. 1 read most of your post but didn't get to the last
sentencel
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3 Michael Earley Next time Carrie Hicken there will be a test.. Make sure you
read the full text lot
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'-IFI Nell Cadman For those of you who have been around for more than 6 or 7
years... remember the "parking in lieu fee "? When building our place we had to
put in a fire rated trash enclosure. By doing that we lost a parking space in the
alley and were not allowed to open unless we paid 516,500 to the City as a
penalty for creating more burden on Infrastructure for the City. This money was
supposed to be used for 'future parking needs ". When the fee was charged to
a business nearby who covered up 8 parking spaces they complained and got
around the fee. I could go on and on, but I have "paid" for my burden for
parking and am really upset everybody else either getting out of it or got a
different deal (payments over many years at little or no interest, etc)....
including Rock n Brews. Those "future needs' over seven years have been
diagonal spaces on Richmond... nothing else, and nothing else planned yet
more and more burden is being placed on a finite amount of space. The City Is
really hamstrung what it can do and I would hate to see a curtailing of
businesses allowed to open, but we may have to come to the realization that
we shift to meters and/or restricted parking during certain hours if we continue
to grow into the neat'kitchy' neighborhood El Segundo is becoming) We have
control over our destiny but have to make some tough decisions logetherl
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Brlanne Chandler If the restaurant is El Cholo I will be there every week.
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Narelle A. Sheehan Neil Cadman, for those of us that donl know what
restaurant/s do you own and I will be sure to come and patronize them .... as I
am sure many others here would.
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:4 Nell Cadman Narelle A. Sheehan we own Deluca Trattoria but please
understand this was no way an and around to do a cheap plugl
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Narelle A. Sheehan Ahhhhhh. Well I am already your best customer so there
` you go! Your kind karma pays off! (Your son and mine are bB in class at
school) Q different last name so will pm youl)
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u` r Melissa Fields Kaminska I agree the structure Is WAY under utilized. I often
park at the top to get extra steps In during the day and it's always completely
empty save the City cars. It could definitely be better used. Someone should
start one of those bicycle taxi services for the lazy people who wont walk
around the comer.
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Elizabeth Aldana Squeezing so much into teeny El Segundo ... it use to be fine
how it was years years ago (sigh, missing Mayberry).
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Mike Van Kleeck What happened to the talk about putting a parking structure
on the comer of Main and Grand?
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Drew Boyles Agree re parking concerns. The proprielor(s) are well
established in the South Bay - convinced will draw. We are looking at parking
hard in Smoky Hollow as a part of economic development.
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Mike Van Kleeck I see zero downside to additional parking. Both business
and customers enjoy it. Obviously it cuts into more revenue generating space,
but so does lack of parking.
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EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATE: May 5, 2015
AGENDA ITEM STATEMENT AGENDA HEADING: Mayor Pro Tem Carl Jacobson
AGENDA DESCRIPTION:
Consideration and possible action to support Mayor Pro Tem Carl Jacobson's position to oppose
AB 45 that intends to impose new program requirements on local jurisdictions for the collection
of household hazardous waste (HHW). (Fiscal Impact: None)
RECOMMENDED COUNCIL ACTION:
1. Support the attached letter of opposition;
2. Alternatively, discuss and take other action related to this item.
ATTACHED SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS:
Letter of opposition
FISCAL IMPACT: $
Amount Budgeted: N/A
Additional Appropriation: N/A
Account Number(s):
PREPARED BY: Mishia Jennings, Executive Assistant,
REVIEWED BY: Carl Jacobson, Mayor Pro Tenn
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APPROVED BY: Greg Carpenter, City Manager,
BACKGROUND & DISCUSSION:
The author of AB 45 (Mullin) intends to impose AB 939 -style "rates and dates" for collection of
HHW, which would require all local jurisdictions to measure diversion rates for HHW or the number
of households participating in HHW programs and require those rates to increase over time. There is
currently a very successful countywide program for HHW already being implemented at a cost of
over $13 million per year in Los Angeles County, and this program is both effective and efficient.
Major areas of concern with AB 45 that are shared by many local jurisdictions and statewide
associations include increased costs without a funding source other than raising municipal trash
collection rates, the difficulty of establishing baseline rates for either participation or diversion, and
the undermining of sound solid waste policies that would instead focus on reducing the amount of
HHW at the source and through producer responsibility programs rather than passing the problem of
collecting products that cannot be thrown in the trash at the end of their useful life onto local
governments. Additionally, the goal of greatly increasing use of door -to -door or curbside collection
is troubling because these programs may pose health and safety, as well as environmental concerns,
and they can be very expensive.
The City of El Segundo does not have staff or resources to manage a new household hazardous waste
(HHW) curbside collection program or is staff trained in handling HHW or proper storage until offsite
collection occurs. Staff has grave concerns about vandalism and the increased potential for storm
drain contamination, creating a tremendous liability for the City in violating NPDES restrictions
should HHW materials inadvertently enter the storm drain system. 12
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Office of the Mayor
Elected Officials:
Honorable Brian Maienschein, Chair
Suzanne Fuentes,
Mayor
Assembly Committee on Local Government
CerlMa o
orPro Tom
Mayor
1020 N. Street, Room 157
Dare Atkinson,
Sacramento, CA 95814
Council Member
Marie Fellhauer,
Council Member
Michael Dugan,
Council Member
Re: AB 45 (Mullin) (As Amended April 13,2014): Household Hazardous Waste - Qpaose
Tracy Wearer,
City Clerk
Cristo Binder,
City Treasurer
Dear Chairman Maienschein:
On behalf of the City of El Segundo, I am writing to express my opposition regarding AB 45 by
Appointed Officials:
Assemblymember Kevin Mullin, which would impose new program requirements for local jurisdictions to
Greg Carpenter,
collect household hazardous waste (HHW).
City Manager
Mark D. Hensley,
CltyAHorney
The author of AB 45 (Mullin) intends to impose AB 939 -style "rates and dates" for collection ofHHW, which
would require all local jurisdictions to measure diversion rates for HHW or the number of households
participating in HHW programs and require those rates to increase over time. There is currently a very
Department Directors:
successful countywide program for HHW already being implemented at a cost of over $13 million per year in
Deborah Cullen,
Los Angeles County, and this program is both effective and efficient. Major areas of concern with AB 45 that
Finance
Kevin Smith,
are shared by many local jurisdictions and statewide associations include increased costs without a funding
Fire Chief
Martha Dijkstre,
source other than raising municipal trash collection rates, the difficulty of establishing baseline rates for either
Human Resources
or diversion and the undermining of sound solid waste policies that would instead focus on
participation � g p
Debra Brighton,
Library Services
reducing the amount of HHW at the source and through producer responsibility programs rather than passing
Sam Lee,
Planning 6
the problem of collecting products that cannot be thrown in the trash at the end of their useful life onto local
Be safety
g overnments. Additionally, goal of greatly increasing use of door -to -door or curbside collection is troublin g
Mitch ravers ,
Police chief
because these programs may pose health and safety, as well as environmental concerns, and they can be very
Stephanie Katsouless,
Public Works
expensive.
Meredith PON,
Recreation B Parks
The City of El Segundo does not have staffor resources to manage a new household hazardous waste (HHW)
curbside collection program or is staff trained in handling HHW or proper storage until offsite collection
occurs. Staff has grave concerns about vandalism and the increased potential for storm drain contamination,
creating a tremendous liability for the City in violating NPDES restrictions should HHW materials
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inadvertently enter the storm drain system.
For these reasons, we have great concerns regarding AB 45. If you have any questions, please contact me (310-
524- 2302).
Sincerely,
Carl Jacobson
Mayor Pro Tern
cc: Members, Assembly Local Government Committee
Assembly Member Kevin Mullin
Debbie Michel, Assembly Local Government Committee Consultant
William Weber, Assembly Republican Caucus
350 Main Street, El Segundo, California 90245 -3813
Phone (310) 524 -2302 FAX (310) 322 -7137
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