1992 APR 21 CC MIN-7MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL
APRIL 21, 1992 - 7:00 P.M.
NEXT RESOLUTION #8759
NEXT ORDINANCE #1180
CALLED TO ORDER by Mayor Jacobson at 7:00 P.M.
INVOCATION by Reverend Richard Duval, St. Michael's Episcopal Church.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE led by Councilwoman Cruikshank.
ROLL CALL
Councilwoman Cruikshank -
Present
Councilman West -
Present
Councilman Wise -
Present
Mayor ProTem Dannen -
Present
Mayor Jacobson -
Present
PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS - (Ci!y Busineee Only - 5 minute limit)
Nine individuals addressed the City Council.
Louise Eckerslev, City Treasurer addressed Council on 1) Interest on investments received while in
Office, 2) Requesting that the cashier be moved back under the direction of the City Treasurer, 8)
Requested formation of an Investment Committee. Further stating, that she had enjoyed her terms as
City Treasurer with the City of El Segundo, and also the Deputy's she has had the opportunity to work
with.
Keith Wise, 400 Block of E. Walnut addressed Council asking whether the public would be able to
comment on the General Plan item; Mayor Jacobson responded they would be.
Bob Anderson, 800 Pepper Street addressed Council on election problems.
Bob Johnson, 1200 Block Maple addressed Council on election problems.
Jerry Osenour, 825 Penn Street addressed Council on election problems.
Dick Fearn, 200 W. Walnut addressed Council on General Plan.
Dorothy Kent, 909 Dune Street addressed Council thanking them for their efforts and accomplishments
on they Hyperion issue.
Downtown El Segundo, Inc. (DESI) request for City Council approval of "Hoopla in the Streets"
to be held on June 27, 1992.
2. Downtown El Segundo, Inc. (DESI) request for City Council approval for their "Let's Do Lunch"
program to run four Wednesdays - May 6, 13, 20 and 27, 1992.
Kevin Mortesen, DESI addressed Council on both Item Numbers 1 and 2 requesting their
permission to hold both events as submitted.
MOVED by Councilman Wise; SECONDED by Councilman West to approve both requests as
submitted. MOTION PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE 5/0.
3. Sue Carter, Chairperson of newly formed committee to encourage the replenishment of books
within all three public school libraries.
Sue Carter - Chairperson of RSLS "Replenish School LibrarSystem" addressed Council
introducing and asking for their recognition of this newly formed committee. She stated that
the committee would like Council's permission to participate on June 27 in the "Hoopla in the
Streets" DESI event.
Council consensue to recognize the newly formed committee, and to approve their participation
request.
Mayor Jacobson closed the public communications portion of the meeting.
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A SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS
1. Second reading and adoption of the ordinance approving the City of El Segundo's General Plan,
Environmental Assessment 275 and the General Plan Final Environmental Impact Report (EIR).
Mayor Jacobson stated this was for the second reading and adoption of the ordinance which
would approve the City of El Segundo's General Plan, Environmental Assessment 275, and the
General Plan's Environmental Impact Report. He then opened up for public comment.
Mayor ProTem Dannen stated that there are many legal questions needing to be addressed
regarding conflict of interest, dollars spent on this Plan, asked the new Council to consider a
referendum instead of rescinding the Plan.
Councilman West concurred with Mayor ProTem Dannen, and then urged the new Council to
be patient. He stated that zoning would need to also be changed, and then urged the new
Council to keep the General Plan.
Councilman Wise concurred with Mayor ProTem Dannen, and addressed the subject of dwelling
units.
Mayor Jacobson agreed that a lot of effort put into many areas of this document, but that there
are some areas which need improvement. Further stating, that he felt that you need to know
what you have before accepting it.
MOVED by Mayor ProTem Dannen; SECONDED by Councilman West to open for public
comment. MOTION PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE 5/0.
Nicky Wislocky, Pine Avenue addressed Council and City Attorney Dolley on 1) On April 7 she
requested some written information from City Attorney Dolley and still had not received it, 2)
The revised ordinance from April 7 was not made available to the public for their review for this
meeting, 9) Asked whether precise plan or general plan prevails, 4) Flyer she received regarding
conflict of interest of two councilmembers, 5) Circulation Element, 6) Inconsistencies through
general plan, 7) Requested the Council hold off on approving the general plan until the
inconsistencies can be fixed.
Chuck Wilkerson, 502 Washington addressed Council on 1) Farewell to old Councilmembers and
congratulations to new Councilmembers, 2) Agrees with Mayor ProTem Dannen as far as
economic future and that the general plan was expensive, but in order to get a good document
you need to spend funds, S) Issues on the Mixed Use northeast quadrant - not in favor of retail
sales, 4) Smoky Hollow Specific Plan - many don't agree, 5) Change in school zones to R3 was
done in order to help the schools, 6) Felt a referendum would be a mistake.
Brian Crowley, 501 California Street addressed Council stating most of the general plan was in
good shape; that something should be done about Prop 13, and that there still needs to be some
work done on the General Plan before it is accepted.
Mayor Jacobson closed public comment period, and went back to Council discussion.
Mayor Jacobson stated he felt there were some valid points raised that on the precise plan and
development agreement portion of it not actually being addressed in the document. He felt the
easiest and most proper way to keep the document concise, would be to go back and rework it
some.
Councilman Wise stated he felt that they were judging this document without giving it a chance,
and that he was in favor of an amendment process.
Mayor Jacobson stated they presently have the consultants, data, everything is fresh in
everyone's mind to keep the Plan consistent, and he felt that piece mealing it would not keep it
consistent. Further stating that he did not feel amendment process was the right way to go.
Mayor ProTem Dannen stated that there has been concerns raised regarding school properties
which are two particular properties which he felt could easily be carved out and worked on under
an amendment process. As far as the precise plan, etc., he referred to Page 3 -19 of Land Use
Element of the General Plan - reading aloud Policy LU 1 -3.1. Further stating that he would
propose to staff that this obviates the question of precise plans, etc.
Mayor Jacobson stated that he did not think that this changes development agreements.
Mayor ProTem Dannen continued stating that the question had been raised regarding conflict
of interest and Hughes. The Council will be voting on the seating of a new Planning
Commissioner this evening, and that he had two letters containing the City Attorney's opinions
to current Commissioners which state clearly that if you are an employee of Hughes or a spouse
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of an employee of Hughes -that you may not vote on - he quoted for the record "any land use
designation east of Sepulveda Boulevard." Further stating that he felt that this was due to
Hughes influence being so evasive that anyone voting on those zones - even though you carve
out the Hughes locations - you may be in affect voting on Hughes property. Considering the
flyer previously mentioned and that he had received, it gave him considerable concern regarding
conflict of interest east of Sepulveda Boulevard. As far as the street running through Hughes,
yes it does and did under the old General Plan, and hopefully one day the City can talk Hughes
into dedicating that property. But he did not feel that Hughes would consider this should the
City reduce their development rights, and that Hughes has proven to be good neighbors through
the last fours years of his term on Council.
MOVED by Mayor ProTem Dannen; SECONDED Councilman Wise to read by title only.
MOTION PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE 510.
NOTE: DUE TO RECONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM LATER ON IN THE MEETING
UNDER NEW BUSINESS - CITY COUN - MAYOR JACOBSON, THE
ORDINANCE IS NO LONGER ADOPTED AND TIER EFORE WAS AVAILABLE TO
USE.
City Attorney Dolley read by Title Only:
ORDINANCE NO.
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF EL SEGUNDO, CALIFORNIA, ADOPTING
THE GENERAL PLAN, AND CERTIFYING THE ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT REPORT FOR THE GENERAL PLAN.
City Attorney Dolley stated that as he explained at the Introduction, this takes into account the
conflicts of interest as they have advised the City Council and Planning Commission during the
past that voting for this project will not constitute a conflict of interest as it presented to them,
and is ready for the Council's adoption this evening at their pleasure.
Councilman Wise asked for clarification as to whether they needed to split this up as they did
the last time; Mayor Jacobson stated they did not need to do it this time.
MOVED by Mayor ProTem Dannen; SECONDED by Councilman West to adopt Ordinance 1180
approving the General Plan, Environmental Assessment 275, and the Final Environmental
Impact Report for the General Plan.
Mayor ProTem Dannen then called for a Roll Call Ballot:
MOTION PASSED BY THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL BALLOT 510:
AYES - Mayor Jacobson, Mayor ProTem Danner, Cruikd ank Went, and Wine.
NOES - None.
2. Discuss previous interviews with applicants for Planning Commission vacancy.
MOVED by Councilman Wise; SECONDED by Councilwoman Cruikshank to seat Ron Swanson
as new Planning Commissioner. MOTION PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE 510.
NOTE: THIS ITEM WAS RECONSIDERED LATER ON IN THE MEETING UNDER NEW
BUSINESS - CITY COUN('-rrAWADIF.R4 - MAYOR JACOBSON, AND NO ONE WAS
APPOINTED TO FILL THE VACANCY. DIRECTION TO STAFF TO READVERTISE
FOR INTERESTED APPLICANTS.
3. Canvass of General Municipal Election held April 14, 1992.
Mayor Jacobson asked City Attorney Dolley if this was to be read by Title Only; City Attorney
Dolley responded it did.
MOVED by Mayor ProTem Dannen; SECONDED by Councilman Wise to read by Title Only.
MOTION PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE 510.
City Attorney Dolley read by Title Only:
RESOLUTION NO. 8759
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF EL SEGUNDO, CALIFORNIA, RECITING THE FACT OF
THE REGULAR GENERAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION HELD IN SAID CITY OF EL
SEGUNDO, ON THE 14TH DAY OF APRIL, 1992; DECLARING THE RESULT THEREOF
AND SUCH MATTERS AS ARE PROVIDED BY LAW.
MOVED by Councilman Wise; SECONDED by Councilman West to adopt Resolution No. 3759.
MOTION PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE 510.
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they have different opinions, but they should not be a divisive body. He hopes with the many
problems the City has facing it that they will devote all of their energies to the solution of these
problems, and that from this day forward there will be no rankering, no intimidation from the
dais, a much friendlier attitude between the dais and audience. If they can not accomplish this,
then our house will continue to be divided. Irrespective of what was stated earlier in the evening
about the need for money, support, etc., if we as a community are divided - this is what will sink
us. He hopes by voting this way that it will introduce a new spirit of harmony and cooperation,
not only from the dais but also within the community.
Mayor Jacobson stated these were extremely true words, and he felt businesses and residents will
disagree but that all of them should work for the common goal of the community.
MOTION PASSED BY THE FOLLOWING VOICE VOTE VOTE 4/1- AYES: Mayor Jacobson,
and Sw" West, and Wise. NOES: Councilman Robbma
ROLL CALL
Councilman Robbins -
Present
Councilman Switz -
Present
Councilman West -
Present
Mayor ProTem Wise -
Present
Mayor Jacobson -
Present
RECESS at 8:40 p.m.
RECONVENED at 8:55 p.m.
ROLL CALL all Councilmembers present.
8. Second reading for an ordinance changing the existing mandatory Water Conservation Program
to a 10% voluntary Program.
Mayor Jacobson stated that this was the second reading of an ordinance changing the existing
mandatory Water Conservation Program to a 10% voluntary Water Conservation Program, and
then entertained a motion to read by title only.
MOVED by Councilman West; SECONDED by Mayor ProTem Wise to read by Title Only.
MOTION PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE 5/0.
NOTE: DUE TO A RECONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 1180 LATER DURING THE
MEETING UNDER NEW BUSINESS - CITY COUNCHALE.M ER4 - MAYOR
JACOBSON, THIS ORDINANCE NUMBER WAS CHANGED TO BE ORDINANCE
NUMBER 1180.
City Attorney Dolley read Title Only:
ORDINANCE NO. •1180•
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EL SEGUNDO
DECLARING A WATER SHORTAGE EMERGENCY ADOPTING
MANDATORY WATER CONSERVATION REGULATIONS AND
RESTRICTING AND DECLARING THE URGENCY THEREOF.
MOVED by Mayor ProTem Wise; SECONDED by Councilman West to adopt an ordinance
changing the existing Water Conservation Program to a voluntary program. MOTION PASSED
BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE 5/0:
9. Public Hearing to receive and consider citizen input on a proposed budget amendment for one
of the City's Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) projects entitled, "Senior In -Home
Care (D91657)."
Mayor Jacobson stated this was this time and place affixed hereto for a public hearing to receive
and consider citizen input on a proposed budget amendment for one of the City's Community
Development Block Grant projects entitled "Senior In -Home Care (D91657)," and asked City
Clerk Mortesen if proper noticing had been done and if any written communications had been
received by the Clerk's Office; Clerk Mortesen responded that noticing was done by the Planning
Department, and that no written communications had been received by the Clerk's Office.
Mayor Jacobson opened the public hearing for comments.
Hyrum Fedje, Interim Planning Director, presented Council with a brief report that this was a
request to modify the Community Development Block Program for the Senior In -Home Care
Project. This is both a HUD and CDBG requirement of a public hearing when you exceed 25%
of the budgeted allocation, that they are already receiving an additional 45% of what was
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originally anticipated. Also, the funding is just being transferred from excess funds from the
completed Park Vista Project excess funds.
Mayor Jacobson entertained a motion to close the public hearing due to no one wishing to
comment.
MOVED by Mayor ProTem Wise; SECONDED by Councilman West to close the public hearing.
MOTION PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE 5/0.
MOVED by Mayor ProTem Wise; SECONDED by Councilman West to approve a budget
amendment to transfer $15,000 of unexpended CDBG funds from the completed Park Vista
project to the CDBG project entitled "Senior In -Home Care (D91657)." MOTION PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE 5/0.
B. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
NONE
C. REPORTS OF COQ, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS - NONE
D. CONSENT AGENDA
All items listed are to be adopted by one motion, without discussion and passed unanimously. If a call
for discussion on an item is made, the item(s) will be considered individually under the next heading of
business.
Warrant Numbers 39848 -40160 on Demand Register Summary Number 20 in total amount of
$827.899.65.
Approved Warrant Demand Register and authorized staff to release, Ratified payroll and
employee benefit checks; checks released early due to contracts or agreements, and emergency
disbursements and/or a4ztmments.
2. PULLED FOR DISCUSSION BY COUNCILMAN SWITZ.
3. Request City Council approval of Amendment No. 1 to the existing Community Development
Block Grant (CDBG) Reimbursable Contract. The amendment adds to the contract the City of
El Segundo's annual CDBG allocation. This program year (eighteenth) the City's total allocation
is $86,521.
Approved and mwated Amendment No.1 to the existing CDBG Reimbursable Contract; between
the City and the Los Angeles County Community Development Commission.
4. PULLED FOR DISCUSSION BY COUNCILMAN WEST.
5. PULLED FOR DISCUSSION BY COUNCILMAN SWITZ.
6. Proposal to update and purchase police emergency radio communication equipment.
Approved purchase of radio equipment for installation within the Emergency Command Centers
of the Police Department, not to oweed $20, 000 funded from the police asset forfeiture account
7. PULLED FOR DISCUSSION BY COUNCILMAN SWITZ.
8. Presentation of the City's Adopted Operating Budget for FY 1991/92.
Received and Filed.
9. Transportation issues update.
Received and Filed.
MOVED by Mayor ProTem Wise; SECONDED by Councilman West to enact all consent agenda items
except Item Numbers 2,4,5 and 7 called for discussion. MOTION PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE
VOTE 5/0.
CALLED LED ITEMS FROM CONSENT AGENDA
2. Proposal to purchase mini -van for use in the D.A.R.E. and Crime Prevention Programs for
transportation of equipment and passengers.
Councilman Switz stated in the future he wanted to be able to show evidence to the community
the financial situation of the City, and that for new items he would like them to consider them
very carefully as opposed to replacement items. Also, the mini -van which he understands is
being requested in order to transport people for speaking engagements, eta which will be
equipped with light bars, etc., and he feels that this is the time to try and defer issues such as
that - even though it is coming from the asset forfeiture account, he does not feel that they
should purchase it just because they have the money to do so. He feels this way about Consent
Item Number 5 -lap top computer also.
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Mayor ProTem Wise stated that he understands what Councilman Switz is stating, and
questioned Interim City Manager Meehan for clarification that this van will be taking individuals
to and from seminars for DARE and Crime Prevention Programs.
Interim City Manager Meehan stated that one of the primary reasons is that the Crime
Prevention people make presentations within the community - of which there are approximately
20 to 30 per month - they need to transport materials such as overhead projectors, etc., along
with transporting individuals. This item was budgeted for this year, and one of the reasons for
equipping it is primarily to have it double in brass and make an additional patrol vehicle
observable on the streets while it is being handled by the DARE Officer coming back and forth
from the schools, with the idea being visability of black and white patrol units having a tendency
to reduce crime and criminality. Secondly, they felt the addition of the light bar and radio that
it would make another unit available to be able to respond should there be a call or a back up
required. Primarily, this is an opportunity to increase the effectiveness of the people as they
work some of these other details and duties.
Mayor Jacobson stated that there is already $20,000 budgeted, therefore there is only an
additional $4,000 be requested.
MOVED by Mayor ProTem Dannen; SECONDED by Councilman West to approve the purchase
of a mini -van, mobile radio equipment, and emergency lighting equipment in an amount not to
exceed $24,000 funded from the Asset Forfeiture Account. MOTION PASSED BY THE
FOLLOWING VOICE VOTE 411 - AYES: Mayor Jacobson, Mayor ProTems Wise, and
Robbins and West, NOES: Councilman Switz.
4. Report on status of specimen tree on high school campus.
Councilman West stated that the School Board has elected to take the tree down with help being
donated from Chevron.
Mayor Jacobson stated that he also believed that Chevron will also be donating a tree.
Rod Spackman, Chevron addressed Council stating that Chevron will be removing the old tree
and replant a 48" box - 24' Italian Stone Pine tree, and pieces of the old tree will go to make a
wooden eagle - milled into planking to build benches which will be brought back and placed
around the new tree - and segments of the tree trunk slashed into pieces which will be built into
memorials which will go to the 75th Anniversary, etc. Further stating that it was some of their
employees who live within the Community which came up with this idea.
Council consensus to receive and Me.
5. Proposed purchase of a lap top computer, printer, carrying case and monitor at a cost not to
exceed $4,500 funded from the asset forfeiture account.
Councilman Switz stated his prior statement under Item Number 2 still stands with regards to
this item. Also, that he wanted everyone to understand his outlook for the economy. He tends
to be a rather conservative individual by nature, and feels that the City could be in the same
economic straits two or threes years from now. It is very difficult to get money back once it is
spent, so he is probably going to vote rather frequently on the negative side for fund
expenditures which are not clearly justified in terms of need, and hopes everyone will bear with
him because it is for that reason - not that he is opposed to the community. He is doing this
because he cares.
Interim City Manager Meehan stated that this has to do with the Narcotics Program and he
would like Police Captain Grimmond to present a brief report to the Council.
Police Captain Grimmond addressed Council explaining that the operation of the local Narcotic
Officers do a number of survelences, and this lap top allows them to work from their vehicles,
document their affidavits for their search warrants which increases their efficiency and the
ability to do their reports in the field. The funds being recommended for this purchase is from
the asset forfeiture account which is directly related to law and narcotic enforcement and does
not supplant funds - but supplements them. Presently, the Officers have to put their reports on
paper which means they must come to the station - document it - and the turn around time - loss
of opportunity of search warrants - and officer safety is the main reason for the lap top. This
is a necessity which will certainly help in the operation of the Police Department.
Mayor Jacobson questioned whether other departments had used this method in obtaining search
warrants; Captain Grimmond responded that LA Impact, Westnet, and all those teams use lap
tops in the field. They type the affidavits, search warrants, etc. in the field and go directly to
the Judges house while they contain the residents who then signs the warrant, and then they
return to the scene.
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Councilman Wise clarified that these funds are restricted, and that there has to be a direct
correlation in order to utilize these funds; Captain Grimmond concurred.
Councilman West questioned using a lap top computer and possibly a cellular phone whether
they could fax a search warrant application or data directly to a place; Captain Grimmond stated
that although this technology is available, they have chosen not to do this because they feel safer
with their present procedure. In January, 1992 the $42,000 for the Narcotic Officers was
approved by the Council, and this was for another item. This money has already been allocated,
and they are requesting that they be able to purchase another item in lieu of the one they will
not be purchasing.
Councilman Robbins questioned that since this equipment will be used out in the field, why
would they be requiring a monitor, and whether this lap top had a hard drive; Captain
Grimmond responded that these two Narcotic Officers which work out in the field would use the
lap top in the field and then plug it into this monitor upon coming into the station - which allows
them the option of not having to purchase a complete computer system for the station. Also, the
lap top does have a hard and floppy disk drives.
Councilman Switz questioned whether or not the Department has plans to expend money to
create statistics and analyze to test the effectiveness of the programs which are currently being
undertaken; Captain Grimmond responded that DARE is five to seven years old of which they
are monitoring.
Interim City Manager Meehan stated that one of the problems they have with prevention
programs is that it is very difficult to know what you have actually prevented, and they would
need to go by their experience that when you have individuals teaching in school for seventeen
weeks in all of the grades through 8th grade to help children to say no to narcotics - they would
need to just accept the fact that this has been beneficial and had an impact. It would be very
difficult to quantify.
Councilman Switz suggested that they want to consider speaking with the children; Captain
Grimmond informed and invited the Council to attend the upcoming DARE Graduation.
MOVED by Mayor ProTem Wise; SECONDED by Councilman West to approve purchase of a
lap top computer, printer, carrying case and monitor at a cost not to exceed $4,500 funded from
the asset forfeiture account.
Councilman Robbins stated that he would support this request without the monitor, and asked
Mayor ProTem Wise and Councilman West if they would consider amend their motion.
Mayor ProTem Wise disagreed stating that he felt that the purchase of the monitor would
prevent Officers waiting to borrow one or for computer time; Councilman West concurred.
Councilman Robbins called the question:
MOTION PASSED BY THE FOLLOWING VOICE VOTE 9/2: AYES - Mayor Jacobson, Mayor
ProTem Wise, and Councilman West. NOES - Councilmembere Robbins and Switz.
7. A) Request approval of lowest bid for four vehicles in the following departments /divisions:
Equipment Maintenance, Police, Building Safety, and Planning Departments as approved in the
FY 1991 -92 budget; and B) Request approval for purchase of a vehicle for the Fire Department
as approved in the FY 1991 -92 Budget.
Councilman Switz questioned what the current utilization rate of the three vehicles they
presently have; Fire Chief Sloan responded that they presently have six employees attempting
to use three vehicles, and many times they find that the vehicles have been taken. Over a year
ago they sensed this need when preparing the budget. The inspectors are attempting to use their
own vehicles which he does not approve of. They presently do not have exact data, but
frequently they are out of can which causes them to coordinate their inspections around cars
instead of responding to the customer.
MOVED by Councilman West; SECONDED by Mayor ProTem Wise - with discussion - to
approve bid of Tuttle -Click Ford and reject all other bids. MOTION PASSED BY THE
FOLLOWING VOICE VOTE 4/1: AYES - Mayor Jacobson, Mayor ProTem Wise, and
Counc3lmem�bers Robbins and West. NOES - Switz.
Mayor ProTem Wise stated he believed that Councilman Switz brought up a very good point, and
felt that it would benefit everyone to start keeping data so when there is justification requested
it can be addressed; Mayor Jacobson concurred.
Interim City Manager Meehan also concurred stating that he thinks that data is available but
has not actually been written down due to no prior requests being made.
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E. NEW BUSINESS - CITY MANAGER
Review and discussion of various financing alternatives for construction of approved Golf Course
Project
Mayor ProTem Wise presented a proposal for the Council's consideration to trade - with the
School District - the Golf Course for the Rader property on Center Street, because the schools
need the money. Further stating that 62% of the electorate voted that they would entertain a
tax, and the Golf Course presently has no impact to the budget right now so they are not taking
from the general fund. This would address one of the major concerns on the R3 designation for
the property where the Raider's are presently, and he felt that they could take care of two
concerns by doing this. There has been a lot of discussion about this and they have had people
state that they could give the City as much as $1 million up front - which could be some $400,000
to $450,000 per year, and he feels that this would go a long way in helping to ease the financial
burden on the schools. Also, the only thing that the budgeted money for the parcel tag would
do is maintain present services as is, and doing this would give the City the opportunity to do
as they see fit - also it would take out this question in the General Plan.
Mayor Jacobson questioned whether it was vital that they vote on this item tonight, or could
they agendize it for the May 5 meeting.
Steve Klotzsche, Finance Director, responded that this was a non - binding approval, and they
could still back out until the end of May or early June.
Council consensus to agendiss Mayor ProTem Wile's proposal under his name at the May 5
meeting; and to also hold this items over to that meeting:
2. Closed circuit video camera monitor system for City Hall.
Mayor Jacobson stated that he continues to have a problem with this item.
Councilman Robbins stated that he felt this would not serve as a benefit either financially or
otherwise, and that if they could not trust those individuals authorized to have access to City
Hall and using City Hall that this type of system would not solve the problem. Further stating
that he was not in favor of this request; Councilman West concurred; Mayor Jacobson stated he
also concurred stating that he believed it was intimidation of the public in a public building; and
Councilman Wise stated he remained unchanged because he felt that the past exposure to
possible litigation warrants it.
MOVED by Councilman Switz; SECONDED by Councilman West to deny request. MOTION
PASSED BY THE FOLLOWING VOICE VOTE 4/1- AYES: Mayor Jacobson, Coundlmembers
Robbins, Swits, and Week NOES: Mayor ProTem Wise.
3. Letter from Colonel Glenn M. Perry II of the U.S. Air Force Base regarding concerns about the
proposed Nash - Douglas Streets one -way couplet.
Interim City Manager Meehan stated that this item is in regards to a letter from Colonel Perry
II of the U.S. Air Force regarding concerns on the Nash - Douglas Streets one -way couplet, and
that staff had been in contact with him for some time.
Ken Putnam, Public Works Director, presented a brief report to the Council, and staff was
requesting that the Council review their proposed response to Colonel Perry II and authorize
them to forward this proposed response as written - or with any modifications they wish to
direct.
Councilman West questioned whether Colonel Perry II had his own Traffic Engineers work on
this, and what would the City's share of the mitigation fee be; Mr. Putnam responded that he
believes that he had, and that the City's share would be 3/4 of the full fee.
Mayor ProTem Wise stated he wondered how much of this traffic going across El Segundo
Boulevard was necessary or just convenient.
Mayor Jacobson questioned whether any work had been done at getting out of that property east
over the Santa Fe right -of -way; Mr. Putnam responded it had, and they do have some rights to
get across that and come out onto Aviation - but once on Aviation at El Segundo that it is
difficult to make a left turn due to one lane.
Discussion ensued regarding widening of Sepulveda and Aviation Boulevards, I105 Freeway, and
Caltrans.
Council consensus for staff to work with Colonel Perry II for an additional 90-120 days.
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4. TRAFFIC - Countywide traffic signal synchronization program and the related operation and
maintenance program
Mr. Putnam presented a brief report to Council.
Mayor Jacobson stated that the two streets participating are Aviation and R,osecrans, and
questioned whether the City's section of El Segundo Boulevard would be synchronized shortly;
Mr. Putnam responded it would.
MOVED by Mayor ProTem Wise; SECONDED by Councilman West to declare support for
Traffic Program and Phase II in particular having to do with operation and maintenance of
signals in system. MOTION PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE 5/0.
5. Sepulveda Tunnel demonstration proiect status.
Mr. Putnam presented a status report to the Council.
Council consensus to receive and Me report.
RECESS at 10:00 p.m.
RECONVENED at 10:19 p.m.
ROLL CALL all Councilmembers present.
F. NEW BUSINESS - CITY ATTORNEY - NONE
G. NEW BUSINESS - CITY CLERK - NONE
IL NEW BUSINESS - CITY COUNCIf.IUF. EWM
Councilman West
1. Congratulated the two new members to the City Council.
Councilman Robbins - NONE
Councilman Swits - NONE
Mayor ProTemn Was
Congratulated the two new members to the City Council.
2. Sent a letter to Jess Sturgeon regarding the possibility of saving the tree in front of the
high school on behalf of the Council; Mayor Jacobson stated the Council appreciated
that.
Mayor Jacobson
FY 1992 -93 Budget: Mayor Jacobson stated that staff needed their direction, and asked if they
would consider a couple of meetings.
Council consensus to schedule April 28 at 5:00 p.m and April 80 at 7:00 p.m.
2. Update New Councilmembers On Closed Session Items: Mayor Jacobson stated that both the
City Council and City Attorney Dolley needed to update the new members on the Closed Session
items, and asked for a consensus for a date to meet.
Council consensus to schedule May 5 at 5:00 p.m.
3. Reconsideration of General Plan, EA -275, Environmental Impact Report approved earlier on
Ordinance Number 1180.
MOVED by Mayor Jacobson; SECONDED by Councilman Switz to reconsider adoption of
Ordinance Number 1180 approving the General Plan, EA -275, and the Environmental Impact
Report.
A SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS - Out of Order For Reoonsideration:
Second reading and adoption of the ordinance approving the City of El Segundo's General Plan,
Environmental Assessment 275, and the General Plan Final Environmental Impact Report (EIR).
Councilman West stated this evening comments had been made with regards in trying to
commence in trying to heal and put things together. Further stating that he disagreed with the
the Mayor bringing this item back for reconsideration after approving it earlier - even though
the Mayor had stated he did not totally agree with it. He concurred with Mr. Dannen's reasons
of why he wanted to vote in favor of the Plan, and he was hoping that the new Council could be
agreeable and try the Plan out for awhile to see how it fit - and try to make it work.
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Councilman Switz stated that he felt that he and Councilman Robbins should be permitted to
comment on this because they had not had the opportunity yet. He stated he was not in favor
of scrapping the General Plan, but his view of the Plan was that it would do most of the things
that it was intended for - but until it is given more testing - it was unclear of whether they were
ready for it to be put into effect. As an Official, if he is responsible for implementing this Plan,
then he should have a say. He suggested the Plan be held for 90 days in order to give the new
Councilmembers the opportunity to review it.
Councilman Wise stated the old Council did read through the entire General Plan, and were
involved with it. This was a good and thought out Plan, and that he agreed with Councilman
Switz that in order to test something you need to drive it. Therefore, he supported Mr. Dannen's
comments, that the new Council had not been privy to the information or process that the prior
Council had been, and that it would be a major mistake to make any changes now. If there was
going to be a referendum - they could get the 880 required signatures - then let them get them
and let the people decide. He felt it would be a bigger mistake to arbitrarily change a situation,
or to have two new votes enter into the process.
Mayor Jacobson stated that he felt there were some changes which needed to be made, and that
it would be better to make these changes now while they have the whole team working -
Consultants - EIR Specialists - and Staff, not putting out the Plan and trying to piece meal
change it after the fact. This is why he is asking for the reconsideration because now is the time
to do it.
Councilman Robbins stated that he felt that the General Plan was not a community driven
document, he has been to most of the meetings on this Plan, they need more community input,
needs to have corrections made, and that he concurred with Councilman Switz and Mayor
Jacobson. He then requested an oral and written clarification for the record from the City
Attorney regarding any possible conflict of interest with his voting on the reconsideration and
the fact that he is an employee of Hughes.
City Attorney Dolley responded that the motion to reconsider before the Council at that time was
purely a procedural motion which holds into abeyance the original vote - and it does not go to
the merits of whether or not the General Plan is adopted or not - until such time there is
another vote - and that vote must occur within at least this meeting or no later than an
adjourned meeting occurring before their next regular meeting. In as such, after looking into the
situation, he believes that there is no conflict of interest of any Councilmember being on a
motion to reconsider. Thus far, he did not believe that there has been any. He does have
further comments for the Councilmembers and conflicts of interest as they relate to issues when
they reconsider the vote on the General Plan itself. This advice is given on the basis of Robert's
Rules of Order - which is the document which this body has looked to, and with the best effort
they have had to make in a short time - they have had to consider it.
Councilman West asked the City Attorney for clarification that they were discussing these two
issues 1) Shall they reconsider the vote - and there is no conflict of interest, and 2) After this is
done, they must consider the General Plan adoption - and then there will be conflict of interest;
City Attorney Dolley concurred.
Mayor Jacobson stated that a flyer was distributed yesterday, he asked City Attorney Dolley to
give a ruling on Councilman Switz's conflict of interest - should there be any.
City Attorney Dolley responded he had a conversation with Councilman Switz earlier during the
day in which he understood the only income he has which may be in question would be income
in a pension plan from Hughes Aircraft. There is a specific exemption in the Fair Political
Practices Commission's Regulations and in sections of the Government Code dealing with
conflicts of interest that says pension plans are not income, and therefore are not considered a
conflict of interest. During the past, this advice was given to Planning Commissioner's.
Mayor Jacobson called the question:
MOTION PASSED BY THE FOLLOWING VOICE VOTE 8J2:
AYES: Mayor Jacobson, Coundlme®bera Robbins and Switz.
NOES: Mayor ProTemd Wise and Council member Week
Councilman West stated that he was sure that there are many people in the industrial
community that did not speak previously. Further stating that he encourages them to participate
during this new process; Mayor Jacobson concurred.
Bill Mason. President of the Chamber of Commerce addressed Council congratulating them on
their being elected, and to City Clerk Mortesen. He stated that the Chamber during the last
several years has established a repore with the Council where they can maintain a dialogue
which they feel is very important, because the business community that the Chamber represents
contributes 90% to 95% of the City's revenue. He urged Council to vote the General Plan in as
it is today.
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Liz Garnholz addressed Council stating that any Council in any City in America which adopts
a General Plan without a building height restriction, is an irresponsible Council.
Jerry Saunders, Continental Development Cora. addressed Council stating that they would like
to see stability and responsibility for awhile, and would like the General Plan to be approved.
Jim McGoldrick, 412 Oregon Street addressed Council congratulating the new members on their
election. He commented on the high growth/low growth General Plan issue, and stated he was
in favor of a low growth general plan.
Soot Dannen,1127 E. Acacia addressed Council stating that he was one of the founding members
of the El Segundo Residents Association (ESRA) which does not play by the rules, and he intends
to expose this organization because it needs to be. This evening the Council's problem is the
Ralph M. Brown Act and the General Plan of which in his opinion has been fair and just all
along. Further stating that as individual speakers speak of an unjust business clan, the citizens
of El Segundo had just been manipulated unfairly, inequitably, and he could verify this because
he was one of the founding fathers of ESRA. He stated that he found Council's conduct
unacceptable, and challenged them to act fairly because a lot of work and thought had gone into
the General Plan.
Frank Wong- 435 Valley Street addressed Council challenged Mr. Dannen's comments regarding
manipulation stating that the Council has been manipulated for a long time, and is not with the
new Council. He stated he was not in favor of the General Plan as it is, and he felt that the
money paid to the consultant's should be taken back.
Nancy Wernick, 515 Loma Vista (President of the School Board) addressed Council questioning
the City Attorney as to whether the old General Plan was still in affect, and stated that before
the School District could sell any property that it must give the City the first choice of
purchasing the property.
City Attorney Dolley responded that the old General Plan is still in affect.
Mayor ProTem Wise stated that there was an argument - they were told - that under the fair
hearing law, should this Council which lived with this a year did not adopt the General Plan that
the new General Plan could be challenged. They had lived with these meetings which the new
members of the Council had not been privy to the input from certain sectors, therefore, he felt
would be irresponsible for them to put this responsibility on the new members. Further stating
that he was in favor of letting the public vote on it.
Joyce Deck addressed Council stating she did not like the way that she had been spoken to, and
should the public not want the new Plan then they should have the final say.
Helen Armstrong, 753 Hillcrest Street addressed Council stating that she felt the new members
of the Council should be given the opportunity to review and vote on the new Plan since they
would be the ones implementing it.
Mayor Jacobson closed the public comment period.
Mayor Jacobson stated that the new Council when they have the time to give it the fair hearing
will make the proper decisions. It is only a matter of them taking the time and studying it, and
now is the most proper and economical time to revise it.
Mayor ProTem Wise stated that the Land Use Element started out as 1,117 dwelling units which
would be added over the next 20 years, and with all of the zoning changes - including the two
school sites - it was 1,163 units now.
Mayor Jacobson stated that the earlier numbers were much more spread out, and were on Grand
Avenue - now they are speaking about smaller streets which is why he is concerned with it.
City Attorney Dolley stated that it was entirely at the pleasure of the Council that he had noted
in the previous documents presented to the Council - the conflicts of interests that Mayor
Jacobson, Mayor ProTem Wise, Councilman West has, and former Mayor ProTem Dannen had.
As they proceed in their deliberations, it would be appropriate to remind each of them those
areas that they cannot discuss, participate in, or vote on. As the Council discusses it, he will
interject when necessary.
Mayor Jacobson questioned that should they take a revote this evening on the Plan could the
City Attorney clarify those areas the members of the Council can not participate or vote in; City
Attorney Dolley responded that he could to the best of his ability.
Councilman Robbins announced for the record that he would be abstaining from voting.
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Discussion ensued regarding the voting process and conflicts of interest regarding the General
Plan.
Mayor Jacobson requested a Roll Call Ballot:
MOVED by Mayor ProTem Dannen; SECONDED by Councilman West to adopt an ordinance approving
the General Plan, EA -275, and Environmental Impact Report.
MOTION FAILED BY THE FOLLOWING VOICE VOTE ZWI:
AYES: Mayor ProTem. Wise and Councilmember Weak
NOES: Mayor Jacobson and Counczlmemaber Switz.
ABSTAINED: Councilmemsber Robbins
Councilman West then questioned whether the new Plan was approved or not.
Mayor Jacobson responded that it was not out, it just was not adopted and was still under
consideration by this Council; City Attorney Dolley concurred.
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Scot Dannen, 1127 Acacia addressed City Attorney Dolley asking for clarification in that there was a
motion to reconsider of which the vote was 2/2; City Attorney Dolley responded that he recalled that the
vote was 3/2.
Mr. Dannen further continued stating that he wished to point out to the City of El Segundo that in his
opinion they had been duped, that there was some considerable question regarding conflicts of interest,
and then called into question Mayor Jacobson's possible conflict of interest regarding contracts - Cal
Switch with Space and Com and EDSG - and another major subsiderary of Hughes and General Motors
which he felt needed to be discussed further. He asked that they submit this to a referendum and let
the public vote.
Mayor Jacobson asked the City Attorney to speak on his conflict of interest for the record; City Attorney
Dolley responded that he would repeat what he already informed Mayor Jacobson per his request at the
beginning of their discussion that as far as a conflict of interest for Mayor Jacobson, the only time he
would be precluded as a conflict of interest from a source of income would be had 10% ownership in that
particular company.
Mayor Jacobson announced also for the record that he did not hold ownership in that particular
company, and the Hughes contract is smaller than 2% of their business.
Joe Vitorri, 124 W. Oak Avenue addressed Council regarding conflict of interest of Councilmembers
Robbins and Switz, and on the petition previously submitted to the old Council.
Frank Wong, 435 Valley addressed Council stating that the General Plan and development was a lot
more serious than they could imagine because he just walked outside and something happened. He asked
the Council to review the Plan very carefully.
Mr. Switz stated he had one more matter he wished to reconsider which was the Special Order of
Business Item Number 2 - Planning Commission vacancy.
Councilman Switz stated that it bothered him that the selection process started out with three candidates
and was narrowed down to only one candidate because the other two were eliminated for what ever
reason. Further stating that he felt the members of the Planning Commission were equally important
to the community as members of the City Council, and wherever possible he likes to see a choice.
Mayor Jacobson stated that it was by process of elimination because of conflicts of interest and one which
did not want to serve.
Mayor ProTem Wise stated that this was published in the paper and they had three individuals which
applied for it. One had a conflict of interest, one decided not to do it, and one which they agreed upon.
Councilman Robbins questioned whether they could reconsider this and open it back up for discussion.
City Attorney Dolley responded that this Council has over the years used the motion to reconsider on
the same meeting which is a proper motion which must be brought up by an individual which voted in
the affirmative, can be seconded by any member of the Council, and can only be done at the meeting the
original motion was made - or if the meeting is adjourned, to a meeting prior to the next regular meeting
of the Council.
MOVED by Mayor Jacobson; SECONDED by Councilman Robbins to reconsider appointment of Ron
Swanson to fill vacancy on Planning Commission.
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Councilman Wise stated that the Council published the vacancy, interviewed, put it on the order of
business, and the entire Council voted yes to appoint the individual; Councilman West concurred with
Mayor ProTem Wise.
Councilman Robbins stated that he did not have the opportunity to vote, and that he felt it was not fair
to the voters of the community to have certain decisions made before the swearing in of the new
Councilmembers by vote of mandate. Further stating that he would like to have the opportunity to vote
on this appointment.
Mayor Jacobson stated he would encourage Ron Swanson to reapply.
Councilman Switz stated he would also encourage a greater selection in the choices they have, and that
there will be one or two more vacancies on this Commission in June this year.
Mayor Jacobson called the question:
MOTION PASSED BY TBE FOLLOWING VOICE VOTE 8/2: AYES - Mayor Jacobson and
Counchmmbers Robbins and $wit:. NOES - Mayor ProTem Wise and Councilman Week
A SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS - Out of Order For Reconsideration:
2. Discuss previous interviews with applicants for the Planning Commission vacancy.
A lengthy discussion ensued regarding the publication, interview, and appointment process.
Mayor ProTem Wise questioned how they could expect more people to apply for these decisions
when they go on record of changing them. He stated that it has been shown that there is a
problem with getting candidates to run for office of the intimidation factor that good people are
not running, and now they have three good people who went through the process, interviewed,
and one was appointed. To arbitrarily change a vote for whatever reason does not make sense,
and to him they are sending out the wrong message.
Mayor Jacobson stated he felt they were sending out a message that they do want more
candidates to apply.
Gary Schultz addressed Council called for a Point of Order. He questioned whether Mayor
Jacobson did in fact vote yes at the time of the original vote to appoint.
City Clerk Mortesen responded that Mayor Jacobson voted in the affirmative in the original vote.
Mayor Jacobson then announced that the original motion is now back on the floor:
MOVED by Councilman Wise; SECONDED by Councilwoman Cruikshank to appoint Ron
Swanson.
Mayor Jacobson then called the question:
MOTION FAILED BY THE FOLLOWING VOICE VOTE 2/S: AYES - Mayor PwTemn Wise and
Councilman Weak NOES - Mayor Jacobson and Counczlmem bete Robbins and Switz.
Mayor Jacobson stated the Council now needed to determine opening the application, and encouraged
the applicant to reapply because he does have good qualifications.
Ron Swanson addressed Council stating that he is 39 years old, young, aggressive, and wanted
to give time to the community, and just what was done tonight will deter individuals from
coming forward and wanting to volunteer. Further stating that he was a qualified candidate who
went through the process and interviewed, and felt that this was a stacked deck and hoped that
the people of El Segundo realized what is going on.
Mayor Jacobson entertained for a motion for a 30 day advertisement.
MOVED by Councilman Robbins; SECONDED by Councilman Switz to advertise for Planning
Commission vacancy. MOTION PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOICE VOTE 5/0.
Mayor Jacobson stated that it should be noted that they will have more vacancies in June, and
encouraged a wide selection.
MEMORIAL
CLOSED SESSION
NONE
The Council moved into a closed session at 12:20 p.m. pursuant to applicable law, including the Brown
Act (Government Code Section 54950, et seq.) as announced by the City Attorney, for the purposes of
conferring with the City Attorney on potential and/or existing litigation and /or discussing personnel
matters as follows:
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§ 54956.9(a) (City a party to pending litigation)
weotinghouee va City of El Segundo
Calahan w City of El Segundo
Kilroy vs City of El Segundo
public Storage v■ City of El Segundo
ADJOURNALENT at 12:20 a.m. to April 28 at 5:00 p.m.
Lo Freeman
Deputy City Clerk
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