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1984 OCT 30 CC MINMINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
OF THE EL SEGUNDO CITY COUNCIL
AND
THE EL SEGUNDO PLANNING COMMISSION
October 30, 1984
I. CALL TO ORDER
The E1 Segundo City Council convened in an adjourned
regular session with the Planning Commission on Tuesday,
October 30, 1984 at 7:00 o'clock p.m., in the Council
Chamber of the E1 Segundo City Hall.
II. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE was led by Mayor Armstrong.
III. ROLL CALL
Present: Councilmembers Jacobson, Schuldt,
Siadek, Synadinos and Mayor Armstrong
Absent: Councilmembers None
Present: Commissioners Stewart, Dannen, Pitzer,
Walsleben and Chairman Schott
Absent: Commissioners None
IV. STUDY SESSION
Mayor Armstrong announced that this meeting would cover
the C3W code changes, and the Sleepy Hollow development
and plan review, with the purpose of presenting the
Commission with recommendations in order for them to
have an indication of how to proceed.
Mayor Armstrong inquired when the open hearing on this
issue would be held.
Planning Director Romaniello responded that the C3W
open hearing might be ready prior to the end of the
year and that proper notice would be given to the
public.
Chairman Schott, at this time, requested that the
agenda item dealing with the C3W code change be called
for last on the agenda. This request was unanimously
agreed upon.
Sleepy Hollow
In reviewing the codes that currently exist in the
Sleepy Hollow area, Planning Director Romaniello stated
he was returning to Ordinance #1038, which was passed,
approved and adopted on December 7, 1982 and at that
time an interim zoning was put into effect in the
subject area.
The Sleepy Hollow area runs from E1 Segundo Boulevard,
north, between Sepulveda and Standard.
Mr. Romaniello stated that the interim zoning took
place in 1981 when the City started going through the
revisions in the major zoning of the City, from C3 to
Ml to M2.
IV. SLEEPY HOLLOW (Continued)
At that time there were concerns about this side of
Sepulveda Boulevard and the heights and densities that
would be allowed versus the heights and densities east
of Sepulveda Boulevard. There was some discussion about
the feasibility of a redevelopment agency for that area,
or a specific plan for that area. Therefore the CM was
agreed upon as the best alternative for an interim
zone.
Added, was the City was in a moratorium and the
interim zone was suggested. The CM zone was imposed
because it was the only zone that had some sort of
development standards, meaning it had a front set
back and an open space requirement of percentages of
land depending upon the size of the site in question.
The other reason was that CM meant most of the uses
that were allowed at the time in C3, Ml and M2 could
also be allowed in the CM zone.
For those reasons the Commission recommended and the
Council approved the CM interim zoning. The interim
zoning is near expiration.
Further stated, currently available are four
alternatives.
Mr. Romaniello expressed that because of the adoption
of the Parking Ordinance the existing CM regulation can
be extended. This would allow development to continue,
industrial /commercial uses to continue and buildings of
acceptable height and density to continue to operate
unhindered.
Mr. Romaniello stated another option would be changing
the zones.
The third option would be to let the ordinance expire
and revert back to M1. The expiration date is December
14, 1984.
The fourth option is the same as would be done with the
C2 and C3 west of Sepulveda Boulevard which creates a
M1W and means the M1 west of Sepulveda allows the
same kind of use but with different development
standards depending on whether project is on the east
or west side of Sepulveda Boulevard.
It was also stated that there are other options which
the Planning Commission has discussed at a study
session level, but has not looked into as far as
details. These options are providing some areas to
create the buffer zones that serve as better protectors
of the R1 and R2 and the lower density commercial
zones.
Mr. Romaniello stated that with Council's approval, a
re- development agency consultant was hired. After
discussion of this tactic with the Commission, Council
and the general public, it did not seem like a
redevelopment agency was a realistic approach in 1982
and 1983.
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IV. SLEEPY HOLLOW (Continued)
Mr. Romaniello stated that if not a re- development
agency, than some sort of incentive zoning would be a
good approach. The incentive zoning would encourage
the private sector to re- develop their non - productive
sites, or sites that exist with old, sub - standard or
unsafe structures.
Planning Director Romaniello requested that the City
Council consider two recommendations suggested by the
Planning Commission. Those recommendations are:
-To extend the existing conditions as outlined in
Ordinance #1038 which was keep the CM on top of the
M1 zone for an additional interim period, and
- To revise the M1 standards west of Sepulveda
Councilman Siadek asked if there was any relief for non-
conforming usage in the existing CM zone, in the event
of fire or other damage?
Mr. Romaniello responded, stating, that if the CM zone
is an overlay and something catastrophic happens on the
site, it could only be redeveloped to CM standards.
Additionally, at the present, the CM zone is the least
restrictive of all the City's zoning regulations. It
does not have side and rear type set backs.
Councilman Schuldt asked when the CM was put on M1
zone overlay was it because of the height factor?
Mr. Romaniello stated that when the Commission
originally reviewed all the zones, C3, M1 and M2, they
were primarily dealing with fairly large parcels most
of which were in excess of 10,000 square feet. The
height limit, floor areas and set back were geared
to the information gathered after review of the above
mentioned zones.
It was further stated that the kind of set backs
imposing on M1 west of Sepulveda Boulevard would be too
restrictive for small lots which had the same zoning as
with the height limit.
Also, what is being attempted is to encourage an
accumulation of properties because many of them are sub-
standard in size to the City's building as well as
the City's zoning code.
Chairman Schott stated that under this condition the
mixed use zoning would come into play. Further stated
was that this gives the City a chance to develop the
small lots with various activities that will work
together.
Councilman Siadek asked what effect on property value
does a mixed use format have as opposed to the present
use regulation? Councilman Siadek further stated that
he liked the idea of mixed use and that it should be
pursued further.
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IV. SLEEPY HOLLOW (Continued)
Councilwoman Synadinos stated, what is to be
accomplished is to change the zoning so that any future
development becomes something that would be of benefit
to the community and mixed use is a good idea.
It was further stated by Councilwoman Synadinos that
standards are being set for long term development, and
that an additional statement should be worked into the
code stating that if an individual suffers extensive
damage to his property, there is a choice of rebuilding
to the new code or to what previously existed before
the damages occurred.
Councilwoman Synadinos stated that she would like to
know how the people feel about writing the above
wording into the zone change.
Councilman Schuldt stated that it would be more
practical to put height of any distance in the Sleepy
Hollow area.
Planning Director Romaniello stated that the Planning
Commission has looked at that possibility and found
problems. One is that along Holly there is an abutment
of R1. Another problem is that the refinery has made it
clear they are not going to allow anything greater than
45 feet, because they don't want the properties close by
to be impacted by them.
Chairman Schott stated that what should be looked into
is the type of program that would be mutually agreeable
to the City and property owners in the Sleepy Hollow
area.
Councilman Siadek suggested that the City attempt a
small scale version of enterprise zones.
Mr. Romaniello stated that this idea was like one in
the code, which is to let everyone come in with
creativity for a particular parcel, and to let the
individual who utilizes the site, propose what is
believed to be economically the best alternative usage.
Further, stated was that the indivival must
do that within a specified period of time.
Additionally, if you want the individual to be creative
and work within an incentive program, the City must be
restrictive, knowing that what is being offered to the
private sector will be less than what the market
allows.
At this point, Mayor Armstrong opened the session to
oral discussion.
Bill Bryant, 522 Virginia Street, suggested that those
present read an article published in the October 30,
1984 edition of the Herald Examiner newspaper. The
article is entitled "Manufacturing Heads In- Land ", which
informs as to what the cities are currently facing.
Mr. Bryant suggested that the City buy some of the
quonset huts, tear them down and make public parking
lots, that would create incentives for individuals to
build nice buildings..
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IV. SLEEPY HOLLOW (Continued)
Paul Deters, 119 Standard Street, suggested that the
City consider land banking and make certain parcels
available to all the people to build a parking structure
or to undertake to build a facility coupling several
lots. Mr.Deters added that his suggestion is a form of
an enterprise zone.
Norm Schiller, 135 Eucalyptus, questioned whether he
would end up with a lot that he couldn't build on, in
case something should happen and his business was
damaged by fire.
Mr. Romaniello responded that as long as the lot is
legally recorded, under the present code, one would be
allowed to build to the maximum that the lot would
accommodate within the zone. Additionally stated was
that the biggest restriction would be the parking
requirement, which would result in less floor space.
Mr. Romaniello stated that the use of the lot would not
be affected at all.
Gary Wallace, 516 Oregon, expressed that he was
concerned by the referrals made to developers and
builders. Mr. Wallace stated that the people in Sleepy
Hollow were business people, owners and factory
operators.
Further stated was he would like to think that in study
sessions, consideration was given to the people who
tenant Sleepy Hollow on a day to day basis, as opposed
to 20 years from now or the developer /builder.
The concensus of the Council was to extend the CM
interim zoning for an additional year, during which
time the Planning Commission is directed to look into
the concept of mixed zoning.
V. C3W CODS; CHANGES
Chairman Schott requested a delay of the discussion on
the C3W Code Changes.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the
Council and the Planning Commission, the meeting was
adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
Sub e
Ronald L. Hart,
City Clerk
APPROVED:
Charles K. k±mstrong, Ma
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