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1984 JUL 25 CC MINX'6310
AINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY OF EL SEGUNDO -
July 25, 1984
I. CALL TO ORDER
The Ei Segundo City Council convened in adjournea
regular session on Wednesday, July 25, 1984, at 1:30
p.m., in the Council Chamber of the E1 Segundo City
Hall.
II. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE was led by Mayor Armstrong.
III. ROLL CALL
Present: Councilmembers Jacobson, Schuldt,
Synadinos, and Mayor Armstrong
Absent: Councilman Siadek
IV. STUDY SESSION
Mayor Armstrong asked Council for their input at this
time on budget revenue resources.
Councilman Schuldt indicated that in terms of raising
funas, regarding the exemptions on business license
fees, he felt that this should go from 10 to 2. be-
cause of being in a small business and paying a $50
license, they should be excluded.
Also, the utility tax would be one of the cleanest ways
of collecting funds.
It Jarvis IV passes then the City will have to look at
trash collection by using private enterprise. He feels
we should start the mechanism now instead of waiting.
Mayor Armstrong asked for clarification of what the
trash collection is currently costing?
Mr. Jones stated that currently it is approximately
$300,000 and will go to approximately $39U,O00 com-
mencing February 1, 1985. That is approximately
$462 per person. A $5 trash collection would cover it
for two years with no increase.
He stated that Manhattan Beach, with a similar service,
has a tee of $6.50 or $7.50 per month when you add in
the administrative cost of collection.
(NOTE: At 1:35 p.m. Councilman Siadek. joined the
meeting.)
Councilman Siadek indicated that the City has approved `
over the next 5 years, $13 million in capital improve-
ment projects. he then asked if those were budgeted
for.
Mr. Jones stated that technically the City only budgets
from year to year but that the City sets out a five year
plan which is the goal and tries to match available
future revenues over the rive year period. It is ad-
justed annually to available revenues and changes and
needs in the community.
Councilman Siadek then stated that the amount of
reserves the City has, the City may need to look at a
better means of investment /money management evalua-
tions. he suggested the City should look at Security
Pacific, where the general operating account is
located.
Mr. ,zones stated that the City is aware of Security
Pacific's money management plan. He has been down to
the headquarters and they have offered to sell it to the
City and administer it for the City. The Council, upon
the staff's recommendation adopted a different money
management plan that was designed specifically for
smaller cities. This is a computerized system which is
effective and gets a very good return on the funds.
Councilman Siadek asked for a report from staff on what
the percentage return is - annualized and compared over
the last four years.
Further discussion evolved regarding employee tax versus
utility tax versus square footage tax.
Councilman Jacobson asked what the current count was
for employees this year.
Mr. Sanchez said this year's count was 62,000 at per
capita (above the 10). They figured an average of 5
employees for the average business that were under the
10. Then the staff came up with a number between 73-
75,000. Mr. Sanchez further stated that the only firm
count is the number reported from the business license.
Anything beyond that is dust the best guess.
Mr. Jones stated that in looking at the community over
the past few years, there has been very little growth
of employees. There has been alot of development but
none of those have been completed in the last few
years. Therefore, the 75,000 and the 77,000 from the
business license is fairly accurate.
Mr. Sanchez stated that contractors were not included in
the 13,000 small business firm employees.
He went on to state that the figuring was based on 5-
600 businesses registered in the City and the number of
businesses that reported 10 or more employees. Then
the remaining businesses is what was used for the
average of 5 employees.
Mayor Armstrong then restated what Council saw as two
items needing more information for possible revenue
sources: (1) the exploration of lowering the exemptions
to 2, U and 5 and see the effects; (2) the sewer tax
and if the City can't recover the $378,000, along with
the breakout between residential and industry if
possible.
Mayor Armstrong then moved to Exhibit 14 from Finance
(Revenue Sources Suggested by Departments). He
indicated that two items he had checked were 44 (Review
all current fees for permits and processing of applica-
tions to recover actual costs) and #5 (Add a Planning
Department service fee to all building permits that
require planning review. one percent suggested.)
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Councilman Siadek stated the he was interested in #b
(Consider establishing landing fees for private
heliports and helistops in the City). And that #9
(sewer service fee) was already taken care of and #10
(Charges for paramedic transportation service).
Councilman Jacobson interjected that he wasn't sure #b
was possible.
riayor Armstrong asked if there were any legal implica-
tions.
Mr. Jones indicated that he had severe doubts that it
could be done legally. but he would have staff look
into it.
Discussion then followed regarding the payroll tax.
Councilman Siadek asked if the paramedic service is
really a part of local government.
Mr. Jones stated that there is really no definitive
answer. The reason the City is doing it is because of
the perception that the ambulance service isn't too
good.
Councilwoman Synadinos indicated that there was a yes
on 410 and #11 with a hold on #12.
Mr. Jones then stated that staff would prepare reports
for #10 and #11.
Councilwoman Synadinos said that she was not in favor of
implementing #14 (Eliminate non - resident fees for
Library cards in order to qualify for State Universal
borrowing Subsidy) but was in favor of implementing #15
(alternatively to No. 14, increase the non - resident
fees for Library cards from $10 to $25 or some similar
fee).
Mayor Armstrong then asked Council to please go through
each item on the first page of the Finance handout.
1. Parking tax - insignificant? The argument is
that it gets passed on to the owners or tenants of
the business.
Mr. Jones stated that the parking tax is only for those
who are in and out cash parking. It isn't for the
tenants of the building, so it's not likely that it's
going to get passed onto the owner. he further stated
that this tax did not produce a large amount of revenue
but that the start up cost would be less than 10% and
once it is established and on -going then the amount
would be worthwhile.
2. Utility users tax
Mr. Jones indicated that the staff had provided a good
deal of information and that this tax has alot of
flexibility in the way it could be implemented. he
went on to state that the staff had included in-
formation on caps and that caps could be set at
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various levels and done in various ways. he also said
that there could be differention between residents
and industry /business.
Mr. Jones said that data indicated this is a stable
tax, it increases with economic growth and as energy
costs rise, the tax can be broadly based to minimize
the effect on any one group, the tax can be spread
among all the citizens, but can be used to exclude any
group of citizens bases a variety of variables. The
tax is easy and inexpensive because the utility com-
panies do the tax as a part of their monthly billing.
There is also an added political benefit because the tax
is out on the utility bills not City letterhead.
MOTION MADE by COUNCILMAN SIADEK, SECONDED BY MAYOR
ARMSTRONG to eliminate the utility user's tax from staff
doing further research, at this time.
MOTION WAS PASSED by the following vote:
Ayes: Councilmembers Jacobson, Siadek, and Mayor
Armstrong
Noes: Councilmembers Schuldt and Synadinos
3. Increased per capita business registration tax
Mr. Jones said that he understood that Council wanted
some information on the impact of increases in the per
capita tax.
It was agreed that the employee business registration
tax was eliminated.
b. Elimination of exemption on transient occupancy
tax.
Councilwoman Synadinos indicated that she wished for
further staff investigation.
Mr. Jones indicated that he did not see this as being
worth staff time. He felt this was anti - competitive
for a particular area of their business that is
sensitive to the price increase. A reduction of 2
cents affects an area of business that is not sensi-
tive to price increases as far as competition is
concerned.
Discussion then ensued in regards to a business
z registration tax on lease or rental of office space.
however, it was agreed that this should be a business
registration tax on office space, eliminating the lease
or rental, including square footage.
Mayor Armstrong then referred to assessment districts
and asked if they were necessary at this point in time.
Discussion ensued. It was decided that staff should
further investigate assessment districts.
Mr. Jones indicated to Council that to investigate
these several items, would take several weeks. He said
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that as tar as implementation with regard to Jarvis, it
appears tnat the cnanges in the business tax should be
made no later than Uctober 16, by Council, in order to
yet those implemented by January 1, 1935. other matters
can be implemented at later dates because they are
collected incrementally.
V. ADJOURNMENT
There being no turther business to come before the
Council, the meeting was adjourned at the hour of 3:40
p.m. until Tuesday, August 7, 1934 at 7:00 p.m.
APPROVED:
Charles K. Ar stron , /i'via r
Respectfully submitted,
Valerie A. burrowes, City Clerk
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