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1954 AUG 18 CC MIN - 50Ni _7�d f. �� w is _t K 1�i � .n. aim 6 r•s. 1 other axe to grind but a selfish one, and that.selfish 2 one is that North American /.ny other good industry that 3 could be brought into this City of E1 Segundo will furnish 4 employment for you and for me, and for those people who 5 work 0 for me, or who will work for me, or have war ked for 6 me, or who are now working for me, and this North American 7 firm will pay them a lot more than what I can afford to 8 pay them. 9 You might say that maybe you wish they 10 would get out so they wouldn't give them so much salary. 11 Competition, you say. I don't think so. And I say to 12 you that before you actually make too much pressure on - 13 Your City fathers, that you consider what you get indirectly 14 I thank you for your attention. 15 MAYOR SWANSON: Anybody else in favor of zone 16 change? 17 MR. W. J. ZEPP: I live at 11 Guadaloupe, Rolling 18 Hills, Los Angeles, 19 Speaking for myself, who has a business 20 here, a couple of them in town, and for my employees, why, 21 we are certainly in favor and hope that the Planning 22 Commission will seek to allow North American to build here, 23 because I am sure it is a beautiful building. Maybe I'm 24 a little bit for them because,I was their 69th employee 25 before they had the factory opened up here in 1936. 26 MAYOR SWANSON: Anybody else in favor of the zone s '1,. SK. r r• T�s...�!' y� � °,,. .r ,.. J .en a �{. •. x. eGx. J :�' e M� � k l�i�r� ata^ � Y �t♦�i�x'�:c� � `,,,a li � y�. MY t�rY= t: a .e µ i`i r � ' ' r.1 i �. '.l` \��� t.�♦r,•9.1 � h .a � ��F1 .. 'Oy t J -� t r ��� �,� y tl r. r• 1 change ?' 2 MR. CLAYTON BALDWIN: I reside at 714 Marion 3 Street. I own Star Precision Tools in E1 Segundo. 4 I wish to speak in favor of, the gentlemen 6 of the North American program. The thing that came to my 6 attention here in examining myself personally as to why 7 I am for this program: I have discovered when I moved to 8 El Segundo approximately three years ago,, after having 9 worked here for eight years prior to that time, the reason 10 I moved here was this: I had a dream within myself to 11 compromise to the disadvantages that some real estate 12 people told me exists residing in an industrial area. I 13 had not found them unbearable. 14 _ It is true, we have airplane noises, we 15 have odors.-we have this, we have that. But I have weighed 16 those in my own mind and under my own particular circum- 17 stances and I have found that the advantages are more 18 than the disadvantages; and compromising myself to the 19 industrial program in this area, I remained in favor of 20 an industrial program and the furtherance of it. 21 And I am only too glad to add my contribution a 22 to favoring this program. 23 MAYOR SWANSON: Anybody else in favor of the 24 zone change? 26 11R. D.A.D. WHITE: I am one of the owners of the 26 Pacific Precision mining Company here in E1 Segundo. I also 241 do a retired gentleman. We have all of those classifica- Ji'l c- IkAJ L1jL)(-)J8 I'Ll L#j r3Gt�111Jq0* *dirt dirt -1 Y d , IV '. — — V — - 1% , .-- Tif 1 live in El Segundo. I own my own home and it is over 2 close to where the new North American building would be. 3 1 wish to go on record as being In favor.. 4 of the new North American building. 5 MAYOR SWANSON: Anybody else in favor of the zone 6 change? 7 MR. FLOYD CARR., JR.: I live at 404 Hillerest Stree;., 8 El Segundo. 9 1 happen to be the President of the Junior 10 Chamber of Commerce here in town, and I would like L to 11 point out to these people and you gentlemen of the Council 12 a few of the facts concerning the resolution which you 13 heard read that was adopted. by the Board of Directors of 14 the Junior Chamber of Commerce, 15 We did not enter into the thing without 16 giving serious consideration to the matter. We happen to 17 live with the people here in El Segundo. We feel that to 18 do an injustice to the residents'of the City would be 19 hurting our cause and hurting the things 11 for which we 20 strive. 21 The Junior Chamber of Commerce is composed 22 of some 105 members whose occupational endeavors range 23 anywhere from a student to an employee, to a plant owner, 24 to a retired. gentleman. We have all of those classifica- 25 tions in our organization. And when this thing was first 26 brought up to our Board of Directors, a Committee was bAVID'' .E'?T�.E� A�s OIIRT iF , AA& r .sMyj'� r o R rn� yti . ;'S:F�.. 1 appointed in order to study the matter. 2 The property owners on Acacia Street and 3 Walnut Street were contacted and invited to present their 4 issues, the things which they stood for, before this 5 Committee. We had one gentleman representing these people 6 come and speak to us. We then asked that the representative 7 of North American come and speak to us, and they did. We 8 listened to these two sides from approximately 7 :00 o'clock 9 in the evening until 10 :30 at night. 10 The issue was then brought up to the Board 11 of Directors of our club and we discussed it, and debated it 12 argued it, and rehashed it from approximately 8:00- o'clock 13 until 11 :00 o'clock at night. I merely point this out 14 so that there will be no misunderstanding. We studied the 15 thing very thoroughly. 16 We feel that the decision which we made and 17 which you heard read, of the Board of Directors of the 18 Juniov Chamber of Commerce is a studied and seriously 19 considered one, namely that we are in favor of whole - 20 heartedly approving this thing, and we recommend that you 21 gentlemen approve the request made by North American AVia- 22 ti on . 23 Thank you very much. 24 MAYOR SWANSON: Anyone else in favor of the zone 25 change? 26 MR. LYNN A. UPSHAW: I live at 59+1 Willoughby, wse?.+. �i7properityo s �. - ,.. ; � �',- �'�"'": _.: � '',� ` �` ?. '�',' w�ATwiF�!'!!`- ?iiir`� .' _•. _,y,��x,t����������t�� 177, ales, I, am not a resident; >..of El Segundo. I do own rial property on Lomita Street, and a commercial acre perty Qn California and Sycamore which is residential and on which.I, have "one duplex residence. This practically adjoins the property that s North American wishes to build on. I would like -to give 7 my support for whatever it might be worth to North American, s application for a zone change. s MAYOR SWANSON: Anybody else in favor? _ (Pause) 10 Now, I will give the Opposition to the zone 11 change an opportunity to express their opinions, and ask 12 questions of representatives of North American. I think 13 that some of you wanted that privilege of asking some 14 questions. 15 MRS. ANN BRYAN: When is there going to be an 16 order to direct questions of the representatives of North 17 American who are here e were tonight? I believe w g going to 18 be allowed to ask questions of them. 19 MAYOR SWANSON: You are now speaking for the 20 opposition, is that right?. 21 MS. BRYAN: Well, that isn't the question. I 22 wanted to know when'it was going to be in order to direct 23 questions to the representatives of North American, the 24 representative who spoke here tonight? 25 MAYOR SWANSON: Under this Part of the proceedings, 26 you may ask them now. 24 than that, our intention is a single day shift operation. 25 There will n„ 1 1 11 1 MRS. BRYAN: I reside at 1103 East Walnut, El 2 Segundo. I would like to ask a few questions. 3 First of all, is the personnel of the various 4 facilities of North American going to be transferred to 5 this administration building? In other words., T understand 6 that this building is going to house the office workers 7 of Columbus, Fresno, Los Angeles and Downey, is that 8 correct? 9 MR. TAYLOR: We do not intend to transfer from io Fresno or Columbus or any other areas' personnel into this 11 facility. Our executive officers are now here. We are' 12 going to provide new executive offices, and the peirsonia6l 13 that are now here at the airport and in this area will move 14 into this building. There may be people from time to time 15 transferred. from Columbus.,. Fresno, or some other place, but that will be the exception in rare instances. 17 MRS. BRYAN: Will it be round-the-clock shifts or 18 will it be routine office hours? 19 MR. TAYLOR: No, but some of us do work long hours,, 20 as you can see. 21 MRS. BRYAN: It will be around-the -clock? 22 MR. TAYLOR, No. We will work one shift. There 23 is a Possibility of*some evening work in accounting. other 24 than that, our intention is a single day shift operation. 25 There will only be a few people coming in during the evening 26 and leaving. But•rarely will you find anyone real late In 24 1 Off of Imperial, to the south of.Imperial, parking to the i 4 { s s ..� th a o�� - JIM = \Y� . -• F „V r es:""'"` 2 MRS. BRYAN: Will there ° be a lau ea cep d +fi M 3 used.? In other words, -as of right now, as of the h6ur�'aCs':1 4 of 8:00 and 9 :00, and. in the middle of the nights lots 5 of residents are awakened with calling Mr. Jones, or so 6 and so. Will there be a loudspeaker system at the administ 7 ti on building? 8 MR. TAYLOR: There will not be. 9 MRS. BRYAN: I noticed from one of the exhibits 10 tonight -- I could be incorrect -- but I thought that the 11 parking would be along the west and south ends of the 12 piece of property in question, is that correct? 13 MR. TAYLOR: That is correct. 14 MRS. BRYAN: In other words, there really will be. 15 parking up against residential homes actually? 16 MR. TAYLOR: Let me get that chart and show you 17 again, if I may. 18 MAYOR SWANSON: Yes, you may. 19 MR. TAYLOR: (Referring to chart headed. "Parking 20 Plan ") Will you please try to orient yourselves. Imperial 21 Highway is along here, running to the west. Sepulveda is 22 over here beyond this black line, running to the north. 23 Walnut Street is over here. The building facility is here. 24 Off of Imperial, to the south of Imperial, parking to the 25 west and to the south. Screening by landscaping around 26 the parking area. i . , - � i w 4 - ;r^••, ?. y`iL1�:1.5� , t'.• . 1 ._.�.- -•—^� ��`' `!. 4; fit} ?�%:,;.'`t i .��� � , j :Mt +i _9 71(f i� -�'wJ s- } a 4;: S SI � •_�.,.�....- '�'-"."_" � �. , . •. .0 4^ r y� • �i Orric, L R[rORTKR h DAVID ETTLESON C B.R•. i 06 � , }' ` ,,� ! r Fr'yt7_ ii'a.r'Y�j`iY�E'�"' . jt.1•'t' a Y {':'- "' t-, • - • v the g�oi, • MRS. BRYAN: That wad. 1 t e of division between "{ in. Is there goin 2 g to be any YP point where the cars would be parked or will it e 3 th e P i ht up against a residential lawn, for instance? r g 4 MR. TAYLOR: No. 5 �. PRYAN; Will there be a wall or any type 6 of barrier there? North 1( 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 a 18 18 20 1 7 MR. TAYLOR: It would be our 8 to p ut up a fence on which we can American's preference it so that 8 vines or stuff that will grow on plant ivy or I do r not know the answer 10 it will have a decent appearance. 11 plant construction people will have to to this. Our be compelled., under 12 We may "determine it with the City. 13 � to erect a wall. the Ci ty ordinance, that it 14 If we do, we will plant a vine so 15 that. Wh ether it will be a fence or a wall, 16 will cover is � ordinance limitation on I do not know. But there landscaped and. 17 that. But in either event, it will be 1s for example, or to the west, rather, here to the south, is along the west side of the property* re and 20 21 22 t 23 24 25 yO1 , 26 a 11 You know, Acacia Street comes UP he It is our presently dead -ends up against this property. ntion not to at any time attempt to open Acacia Street ante into this facility. We have no need for it; there is no ut in a small buffer between reason for it. We Propose to p r fence on the west and the adjacent property, and to ou 20 In other words, if you find that your traffic is not being handled in an efficient manner, so far as Your management is concerned, can you open exit points at a later time? ; Ilia DAVID ETTLESON. C.s.R., orries^L R`s0 IP landscape it, to put in�5 grass or ivy or whatever they Put in there, but to make it a decent- appearing thing there We-would probably put the fence in here (indicating), and keep a buffer in here of ten or twelve feet on the outside of the fence, planters. MRS. BRYAN: Are there going to be personnel offices in this building? I assume there will be, is that correct? MR. TAYLOR: Personnel offices? MRS. BRYAN;, 'Yes. MR. TAYLOR:* We will not conduct our general-hiring from this facility. MRS. BRYAN: Then I have just one more question. Concerning traffic regulations that you have in mind now, if the building does go in, are those traffic regulations going to be fully stringent? What you have said sounds fine in that it will not affect the residential area, as you have pointed it out to us tonight. But if the building does go in, can these traffic regulations be changed at a later date? I� Z i pl ,l2{: MR. TAYLOR: We could., except for one thing: I Ive tonight made a commitment for North American. We have ruw. t71l.f.H IV: 1 !, n-1"F� -nn..- ., .. .. . . r. Y� P 19 20 21 !2 U i to live up to that commitmen 2 3 4 5 3 -�� wwula cnange that traffic control only to the exfent of improving the traffic conditions around the facility. MRS. BRYAN: Only for doing what? MR. TAYLOR: For improving the traffic conditions. If there was additional traffic as a problem, and we could make changes in the handling of our traffic in and out that would reduce that problem to all concerned, we would then make a change. The answer to your specific question is: North American is tonight committed. We can not change this in any way that will create a traffic, a greater traffic situation for the immediate neighborhood. .Do I. make myself clear? MRS- BRYANs Can the exits open out into our residential area? In other words, onto Acacia or Walnut or any of the streets that would enter into the situation? MR. TAYLOR: (Displaying chart headed, "Traffic Circulation To'and. From Proposed NAA Office Building Site, E1 Segundo, California ")' I have tonight committed North American not to permit any right -hand turns onto this exit onto Walnut Avenue. MRS. .BRYAN: That means at any time in the future? MR. TAYLOR$' That Is correct. MRS. BRYAN: I think those are all the questions I have to ask. MAYOR SWANSON: Anybody else? U — mss'+- -- -• --np�; y i, 3^ i��Ai'�► -1 l`(. 1� � � 4�1�[r: �' 4 DAVID�e'f 6iAb4i "t.i .MS '1r 1 , r •.s * ' -!' 2by if 1,c, y. ., f If •,• I �'f���/, ♦1��rY�ip f ' � d ,tl+ � .. ". �" i'�'ilrj�,'A,' fNlRS;�r �r`'.i' Y 39 ": � '+:p..,! .(....� �t f ,t. 89 ` r 6's k ' -`MR. WILLARD JOSEPI Y;LY. �" I live at 622 Hun low. •a 2 In my opinion, Mr. Taylor, the only way 3 that you can keep that word is to vacate for all time, for - 4 ever, any right to ingress and egress on the west portion 5 of the land and the south portion of the land. Otherwise 6 your word doesn't mean a thing. (Applause) If you do that 7 forever, I probably might go along with you. 8 MR. TAYLOR: First of all, Mr. Skelly, may I state 9 that I personally resent your stating that my word doesn't to mean anything. 11 MR. SKELLY: No, air, it isn't that. I will 12 apologize to you if you took that exception. What I meant 13 to say was, let me show you why -- - 14 . MR. TAYLOR: • I just want to keep the record straight. Now, in answer to your question -- 15 16 MR. SKELLY: I want to keep mine straight too. MR. TAYLOR: (Continuing) -- to the west, Acacia, 17 the one street that•could possibly have egress and ingress 1s to the site. 1s MR. SKELLY: I know that. 20 21 MR. TAYLOR: We have no objection and we are 22 perfectly willing to write into our a=angements under building construction and zoning - -- 23 MR. SKELLY: Forever? 24 25 MR. TAYLOR: As long as we have that facility, yes. 26 To the south, we can't agree to that. MR. TAYLOR: We were told that cars were parking 0 7 1 W! J .V rMAVID ETTLIki 6kj*.8'. R.'O"ICIAVARPORTIM., 9. 90 ��Thatl:-is what" -,IAsay. You s --t ed 2 to the lady awhile ago that you were going to improve that. 3 MR, TAYLOR: I did not say that., Mr. Skelly. I 4 said we would control traffic so that you could not make s. 5 a right-hand turn out of this exit. 6 MR. SKELLY: I will have something to say on that 7 later. 8 MRS. BRYAN: I just want to go on record as being 9 opposed to the new building, and one of the main reasons 10 is that when we purchased. our home,,.we purchased it because 11 El Segundo was a quiet community. We do not find it to be 12 a quiet community. 13 Secondly,, I do know definitely that this can not add to the value of any property in that surrounding 14 area. That is perhaps for a selfish reason, and therefore 15 I want to go on record as being definitely opposed! 16 (Applause) 17 MAYOR SWANSON: Anybody else? 18 MR. JAMES WHITE: I would, like to ask Mr. Taylor 19 a question. Before**your*parking survey,, many care parked 20 between old. Imperial and. new Imperial on the south side. 21 During your parking survey no cars parked there at all. 22 Why? (Laughter and applause) 23 24 MR. TAYLOR: We were told that cars were parking 25 there. We were told that there were complaints about it. 26 We were told. that those people were interfering with the 0 2 3 4 5 6 7 s 9 10 11 12 13 14 .15 16 17 1s 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 Wl .a '' .T, •.' ..n �/li�Tlo.1 iTLESON, c.s.R.. OFFICIALRtFORTIM ylt`'"f traffic. So we determined some of those people were S North American employees. The property in question on which they were parking in part was private property, and in part it was City property. We had no right to enter that property and do anything about it on the property. We did go and find out who owned the automobiles, whether they worked in our facilities, and we wrote them letters and we contacted them and said, "Please do not park here any more. The neighbors do not like it, and we think maybe they have got a good point." So it took us a few days, but we finally got it all stopped. We are a good neighbor. MR. JAMES WHITE: I wish you had done that several years previously. We are just getting to be good neighbors. Another question I want to ask you this this: Is North American the legal owner of this property at this time? MR. TAYLOR: No, sir. We have entered into a contract to purchase it. MR. WHITE: Then I would like to adc the City Attorney who asked'f or a zoning change on a piece of propert on this piece of property? MR. WOODWORTH: The best evidence of who asked for, it is the application on the company documents. MR. WHITE: Doesn't the zoning law read to the effect that the owner of the property must ask for a zone 1 t` . � jy• �"'"fPt �"+.4.1#t �.�a �t"�4sx�1+'"rys''�1i dr?'•l�ris!�5t�a�!'�ts�� �'-- a�,�'rt'••- �+i"�'^� v s�r �`r� dA =a`�F,.'�� r x. FFtFORYtR / •� `� f• i Y '_ ^ ��i.�. n ySb -.4 *Y��d^.,Rst'� »f aP : r4 ". ✓rt" Y r ` ! "Y :�fz �Y {.�1i • i.,r..�.3 ' . change? zoning law 1 MR. WOODWORTH: I believe that the fi the City Councils resolution of e 2 � so reads, along with � resolution 3 the City Planning Commission" intention and what was done in 4 but the best evidence of of intention, 5 be the application itself, and it is a this•ease would in answer to your s an ing the application, document accomp y 7 . That would prove exactly who did. make the questions s that every application. true, Mr• Taylor, 9 MR. WHITE: Is. it not in Southern California, not includ- to company their an major ave desert for f 11 American, has gone to the Moj ing North 9 12 and testing? final assembly 10 13 MRS TAYLOR; That is not true- 11 14 TE :• What other companies besides North. MR. WHI 12 15 American locally? Lockheed -- 13 is MR. TAYLOR: Douglas, : e facilities in Mojave now, 14 17 MR. WHITE They hav 15 18 on it they, or in the desert somewhere? sir, d Lockheed, Northrupy and 16 19 M 1 TAYLOR: Douglas, testing* have facilities in 18 21 the desert for 17 20 testing, � North American in addition to facilities for Lockheed has But each of 19 22 at Palmdale C . work facilities for some assembly a assembly work and flight 20 23 ies named is doing th the compare their major 21 y 24 roduction flight operations at testing and p 22 g( 25 facilities this side of the hill • 23 26 ho' 24 an ...La.uerger how to go to work, Or.