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improvement projects."
What those improvement projects are at this
moment, I don't know, but I know they will come up.
(Chart) "III. TRAFFIC CONTROL
(Chart) "We've done a lot of careful
Planning to provide complete
off-street parking
Nine of the 10 acres will be used
for landscaped parking areas and
entrance ways around the headquar-
ters building
Although the maximum need is
estimated at 850, more than 1000
parking spaces will be provided
Convenient parking and the lack of
peak traffic loads because of
flexible work hours will preclude
on-street parking."
This is our parking plan (chart). I will'
show you how it is set up at the present time. This is
Imperial Highway to the west; Sepulveda over here to the
north; the administration building here; a short street
for visitor's traffic parking here, main parking area set
up here; landscaping around and through and on the peri-
meters of each of the parking aisles as such. This
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2 an open parking lot, and it reduces the sounds from automo-
3 tive traffic, starting, stopping and. turning.
4 MR. WOODWORTH: Pardon another interruption. You
5 have just been referring to a sheet entitled in red letters
6 printed "PARKING PLAN," is that correct, Mr. Taylor?
7 MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
8 MR. WOODWORTH: And is it your intention to subse-
9 quently introduce as a part of this record the book to
10 which you have been referring there, the large book itself?
11 MR. TAYLOR: I would like to introduce an exact -
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13 MR. WOODWORTH: Very well. Just so long as we
14 identify what we are talking about as we go along. This
15 particular document then is -- you propose to place into
16 the record, an exact duplicate copy of it in evidence?
17 MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
18 MR. WOODWORTH: And when you referred to the sheet:
19 just a moment ago, you were speaking of the sheet in that
20 booklet that is marked "PARKING PLAN "?
21 MR. TAYLOR: That is correct.
22 MR. WOODWORTH: Thank you very much.
23 MR. TAYLOR: (Chart) "Our traffic will be
24 carefully controlled to avoid resid.en-
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2 and along two, controlled rear
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4 Visitors will enter and leave the
5 headquarters along Imperial
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11 (Chart) "This is the traffic plan that has
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We didn't attempt to go out and do this on
17 our own and say, "This is the way traffic should be done."
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We came to your officials in E1 Segundo and said., "There
19 is a traffic problem here. You fellows know about this.
20 Let's see what we can do about it."
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(Chart) "TRAFFIC CIRCUIaATION , to and from
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E1 Segundo, California, July 154."
24 This shows Sepulveda Boulevard to the north,
25 Imperial Highway running to the west, the proposed site
26 here. This is old Imperial, new Imperial, Acacia Avenue,
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3 (Indicating on chart). There are at the present
4 time traffic signals, there is one here, this one is oppo
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site hangars 8 and 9 on North Imperial. This is Imperial
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and Sepulveda. Here at the intersection of Sepulveda and
7 Maple and at Mariposa and Sepulveda the state has already
8 approved and is putting in -- they are supposed to be
9 installed this month of August -- a signal at each of
these intersections.
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11 Now, bear in mind our site location, the
12 building being in this area of the plot, the rest parking.
13 area, an entrance here and an entrance there -- four
14 entrances in all -- traffic coming to the east on Imperial,
15 would be permitted to enter here (indicating); traffic
16 coming out of here goes to the northwest or west -- would.
come out here and make a left turn on Imperial, which
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would be provided as a two -sway street from here to here
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(indicating on diagram) so that they could come down here
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and go strajont down or cut across here and on down.
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on this side, the southerly side of the facility, would be
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here to the east; and to the east they would have to turn
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to the left; they could not make a right turn and come
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17 I mentioned that there are two points of traffic concern
18 in the immediate area; that of existing traffic in the
19 immediate residential area, and that of our :hcility as to
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what it will do to the future. We have done some checking,
21 we have donducted some traffic surveys. I would like to
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show you what we have found about the traffic in this area
23 right here (indicating).
24 (Chart) This chart is the result of the efforts of
25 some of our people. You may have seen them out there
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right turn on Walnut, and enter on this easterly entrance
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here (indicating on diagram). Traffic coming from the south
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would turn at the control signal at Maple, cut off one
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block to Washington and enter through here.
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Southbound traffic exiting again from this
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developed. I must admit that this doesn't answer all
traffic problems. I don't know of any way to do it, and
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not stopping there. We will continue to study the traffic
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17 I mentioned that there are two points of traffic concern
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what it will do to the future. We have done some checking,
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show you what we have found about the traffic in this area
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1 it. This is in average of three daqi. �w wex�e :,'paV+il,,cularl
2 concerned in determining what was the source of traffic
3 that went through this neighborhood. Where did it come
4 from and, when it came out of it, where did it go?
5 Because we have been told by many people, and they told us
6 because they believed it, that is what they thought, that
7 it was our traffic.
8 In the morning northbound traffic, traffic
9 coming up through here (indicating on charg), California
10 Street to Imperial, from 6 :35 in the morning to 8:00 otcloc
11 in the morning there were 1.21 vehicles that proceeded
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13 right on a curve.
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15 morning, there were a total of 68 vehicles that took the
same route and proceeded. across Imperial into the entrance
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17 there in front of our hangars 8 and 9. That entrance area
18 accommodates some Northrup people, but it does accommodate
is Douglas and North American. Of those who went across, a
total of 68 against 121, 42 of them were North American
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cars, North American employees.
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24 that entered California Street from new Imperial or old
25 Imperial and proceeded through the neighborhood. During
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were f our that came from across by the hangars. N
2 In the evenings between 3:35 to 5:30 in the
3 afternoon, northbound, a total of 319 cars. Crossing
through into the hangar area, 33. Southbound, a total of
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60. From the hangar area, 55, and of that 55, between x+:15
8 and 4:40 the only time during this period there was a car
7 out of North American facility, they total 28.
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MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
MR. WOODWORTH: And you wish to introduce that as
part of the Applicant's case?
MR. TAYLOR: I would just like to introduce a
photostatic copy.
MR. WOODWORTH: Very well. Mr. Mayor, will such
a copy be received?
• MAYOR SWANSON: Yes, it will be received.
MR. WOODWORTH:' I am assuming that the original
will be kept until such time as a photostatic copy is
produced?
MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
MR. WOODWORTH: Very well. Is it all right for th,
clerk to mark your exhibit at this time so we don't lose
track of it.
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MR: WOODWORTH: Thank you very much'.
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(Whereupon the chart above referred to by the
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speaker was marked as Applicant's Counsel's Exhibit No. 4,
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and received in evidence.)
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MR. TAYLOR: (Chart) This represents another
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three days, August end., 3rd and 4th, showing the same
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traffic hazard. Northbound in the morning 6 :35, a total
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of 135 vehicles coming through and turning off left or
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right on old or new Imperial. During the same period of
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time a total of 74 vehicles crossed into the hangar-area,
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of which 45 we identified as vehicles going into the North
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In the morning at the same time, southbound,
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91 coming off Imperial, 6 from the hangar area. In the
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evening, northbound,313, between 3:35 and 5:30, northbound,
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turning left or right, either old or new Imperial. From
the hangar area, a total of 41. Southbound off of old or i
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area a total of 52, 24 of which we positively identified
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as coming from the North American! facilities.
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MR. WOODWORTH: Do you wish to offer this document
in evidence?
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MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
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(Whereupon the chart above referred to was
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marked as Applicant's Counsel's Exhibit No. 5 and received
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in evidence.)
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MR. TAYLOR: (Chart) "Our request for rezoning
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is in keeping with the intentions of
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the 1947 Master Zoning Plan,"
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of the City of El Segundo.
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"The 1947 Zoning Plan
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Approved general residential zoning
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for the area and commercial zoning
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only for a strip along Imperial Highway
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Property owners asked for more commer-
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hearings on the plan
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And...
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Planners representing the city testified
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that.changes could be made as the
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conditions of the airport changed."
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Now* conditions have changed., and those of
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you who live nearby are more aware of it than anyone else.
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"The Airport has gradually expanded
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More industry, in turn, has been located
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in this general area
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"Fewer suitable locations for specific
operations are available."
Let me show you what I am talking about.
(Displaying-an aerial photograph entitled at the bottom,
"Aerial Photo 1944.11) I will pass this down so you can
see it after I describe it. This is Sepulveda Boulevard
along here (indicating on photograph); this is Imperial.
The airport at that time ended at Sepulveda. The piece
of property we are now talking about is right there. The
property to the west of that is vacant. There is your
Los Angeles International Airport in 1944, stopping at
Sepulveda. Here is the area we are talking about. I will
pass this down in a moment.
MR. WOODWORTH: Do you wish tocffer that document
in evidence, Mr. Taylor?
MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
MR. WOODWORTH: Will you be kind enough each time
you wish to introduce any particular document into evidence,
to say so and then I won't have to interrupt you, after
which the Mayor will say that it will be received, in
evidence or not, as the case may be, and it may then be
marked. as Applicant's Counsel's Exhibit next in order. If
that is agreeable, we will follow that procedure, and then
I won't have to interrupt you each time.
MR. TAYLOR: May I enter this as Applicant's
Counsel's Exhibit next in order?
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(Whereupon the Aerial Photo above referred to
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was marked. as Applicant's Counsel's Exhibit No. 6 and
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received. in evidence.)
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MR. TAYLOR: (Aerial Photo 1953) Here is another
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aerial photograph which I would also like to enter as
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Plaintiff's -- Applicant's Counsel's Exhibit next in order,
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a photograph marked "Aerial Photo 1953."
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(Whereupon the Aerial Photo 1953 above referred
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to was marked as Applicant's Counsel's Exhibit No. 7 and
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received in evidence.)
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MR. TAYLOR: Here you will see Imperial coming to
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the west, Sepulveda going to the north, the airport on that
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photograph ended here, and now it is extended out through
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here (indicating on photograph). Manufacturing operations
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here greatly intensified. Additional manufacturing over
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here to the south of Imperial. Additional assembly opera -
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tions of North American and Douglas and some Northrap in
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this area here, just to the north of Imperial from the
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site location we are now talking about, and. also to the
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west of that and, the north.
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This area in here has had some residential
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development. Many of you people live right in here, nice
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homes, a lovely area in here. That was part of the property
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that was zoned as a result of that 1947 zoning plan. This
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area here was zoned in part R -31 as a result of that same
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Between the airport and
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(Chart) "WE BELIEVE
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That our office building is suited
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to the area we've chosen and will
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benefit the entire community
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That our headquarters will enhance
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the values of nearby property and,
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our cooperative traffic plan will
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control traffic in the area
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That public necessity and convenience
and general welfare require the
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zoning change we've requested."
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As An example, take this 19+7 plan. The
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7 who live in this area right over here -- I am pointing to
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io this area right in here all of this, the noise that you hear
11 from aircraft taking off is bad enough. The noises have
12 continued. and. become more intensive due to ground run-'UPS
13 and other activities over there. There is no way to
14 completely eliminate that.
_ { 15 As.I have said before, we have put in a
' is million and a half dollars in sound tunnels, five of them.
17 Two more are under contract to go in there, two of them
18 down here (indicating), and one or two going in at Hangar 7.
19 Also two down at the main plant at the corner of Aviation
20 Boulevard and Imperial, and, two engine ground tunnels and
21 two more engine tunnels in there.
22 I submit we act as a buffer here, and the
23 continuing residential development in this area is only
24 going to bring more complaints. That is my opinion. But ;t?
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MR. WOODWORTH: Mr. Taylor, with reference to the
record, do you wish to* introduce the document which you
have been referring to during the course of your testimony
here?
copy.
MR. TAYLOR: I should like to introduce an exact
MR. WOODWORTH: Very well.
(Whereupon the various charts previously used
by Mr. Taylor, held together in a booklet form, were marked
as Applicant's Counsel's Exhibit No. 8 and received in
evidence.)
MR. WOODWORTH: Now, in regard to the statement
before with reference to traffic volume charte, I am sure
you did not intend to say a photostatic copy because that
would not reflect the ,colors, but a duplicate either in
colored photography or some method that will display the
colors, as I understand they are important, is that correct?
MR. TAYLOR: That is correct, and we will make an
exact copy.
MR. WOODWORTH: Rather than a photostatic copy?
MR. TAYLOR: Correct.
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1 to speak at this time in favor of this zoning change?
2 If so, please stand up and let us have your name and address
3 for thet record.
4 MR.JERRY LEONARD: I live at 2727 West 175th Street.
5 I wish to state on behalf of the ownership and management
6 of the Aluminum Taper Milling Company, located at 225 Oregon
7 Street in E1 Segundo, that we favor that request as submitte
8 by North American, and we ask the City Council to approve
9 it. Thank you.
10 MAYOR SWANSON: Is there anyone else now who
11 wishes to speak in favor of this zone change?
12 MR. ALVIN T. DICKENS: I reside at 5112 DeLongpre
13 in Los Angeles. We are the owners of the Del Mar Motel
14 across the street from this proposed building, and we have
15 been out of town and didn't get something in here, in
16 writing..,-in favor of this project. However, we will get
17 one in tomorrow, and at this time I would like to go on
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record as being in favor of this building. I think it will
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improve the neighborhood a great deal.
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21 MAYOR SWANSON: Anybody else that wishes to speak
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in favor of the zone change?
23 MR. CLIFFORD SCHINE: My business address is 235
24 Oregon Street, El Segundo.
25 Mr. Mayor and. Councilmen: The workers and
.s management of the Schine Engineering Company would like to
me. I want to move to E1 Segundo (laughter and applause)
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1 have come here and they haven'.t seen the progress of
2 E1 Segundo. When, as I said, I came here, the business
3 district was on Richmond. That was it. It isn't there
4 now. We have outgrown it. There were one or two business
6 places on Grand, between Richmond and Main.Streets. I was
6 happy to have a little place on Main Street. But we will
7 .get away from that and.we will get right back down to the
8 fact that El Segundo started to grow, really started to
s grow, and I can -say that many of you good people and myself
10 have grown a little bith with E1 Segundo because of such
11 firms as North American. I don't bell them anything directly
12 except possibly'-a few dollars worth of merchandise that
13 they might use on the few trucks that they own and operate
14 in the State of California.
16 When some of the manufacturers spoke here
16 awhile ago, the•murmur that we heard might lead us to
17 believe that it *s because they had some axe to grind. I
18 have none. But for you people and myself -- and God help
is the little fellow that was referred to in a piece of
20 correspondence -- I say, God help all of us little folks
21 if any of us would stand in the way of a development now --
22 another $150,000 or another million and a half dollars,
call it what
23 You want, but it is taxation that you are
24 going to pay, and pay on if someone else doesn't. And as
25 has been pointed out in conversation by those who are
26 really interested
• -- and I know a lot of you folks are
24 intelligent enough to me that you could probably hold down
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1 because your homes are over in that vicinity -- some4of
2 -their homes and their garages and alleyways back up to it --
3 that particular field is part of a field that I helped to-
4 run down jack rabbits on horseback and kill black widow-
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5 spiders underneath tin cans, and I might say to you folk's
6 that those same tin cans with black spiders under them
7 were over in that wheat district off and on.
8 I could say to you that your homes are
s there now because of the progress of this community. Now,
10 how did it progress? By the industry that moved'in, that
ii brought you people here, and I can go back and say that".'
12 when I first came here we didn't have any Security -First
13 National Bank, no, sir; we had two or three good. men who
14 had five or ten thousand dollars, and they had it invested
15 in a little bit of an adobe dwelling.' The Security -First
is National Bank bought that out and took it over and because
17 of this great expansion. you now have bought homes in
la El Segundo.
19 And I could say to you that if you had
20 another rescession -- let's hope that we don't have it --
21 your properties would be a lot more valuable being here
22 right in the industrial district, and even some of you
23 folks -- I could. say even almost all of you -- look
24 intelligent enough to me that you could probably hold down
25 a position in this office building.
26 I want to close by saying this: I have no