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I a little inconvenient, and I think that we can all fairly,
2 ask Mr. Taylor to put up with it, and we will see if we
3 can't do something to help him out of the situation if he
4 can't sell his property readily for residential purposes.
5 Of course, if he offers it for sale, why, we would like
s to have an opportunity to bid on it so that, if we pur-
chased it, we could then establish it for residential
purposes, you see, and the business would be eliminated.
Thank you, gentlemen!
MAYOR SELBY: Thank you. Anyone else?
MRS. BREWBA{ER: I think Mr. Taylor would have
a great deal easier chance of selling his place than Mr.
Westover would, even though Mr. Westover has a very, very
nice residence over there. Mr. Taylor now has a 75 -foot
lot and his building now resembles very much a double
garage and a stucco building at that. Anybody would jump
at the chance to buy a 75 -foot lot with a double garage
on it right next to Mr. Westover; whereas I don't think
anybody would want to buy a house right next door to a
plumbing shop. I know I wouldn't:
MAYOR SELBY: Does anybody else have anything
further to say?
MR. BROCE: I am of the same opinion as I was
before: I think we should leave it remain an R -1 zone,
MAYOR SELBY: Anybody else? This is your last
opportunity to testify in opposition to Mr. Taylor's appea .
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1 MR. L. A. ALLAN (Chairman of the City Planning
2 Commission)t There are one or two things I would like to
3 correct or bring out at this hearing. I have been review.
4 ing the Minutes of our interim meetings. I shall be glad
5 to be corrected if what I am saying is not right. But I
6 dontt believe at any time, either before the Interim Com-
7 mittee or before the Council, that the subject of this
B particular property was brought up. In other wordsl we
? were allowed to go ahead and zone that entire section dowm
there in R -1 without any of the owners, and particularly
this owner, bringing to our attention the fact that there
was a business in there that should be given some con-
sideration.
The gentleman who has spoke for Mr. Taylor
claims that our R -1 zone or section is not restricted;
that you can do anything at all on that property. I dons
believe that that is quite the fact. That section is
restrictive so far as the front yard, so far as the side
yards, so far as the rear yard, and so far as the height
is concerned. And it is certainly restricted to one
family. You can't increase that house in order to move
two families in there. So I think that that property,
the R -1 zoning, is just as restrictive as the zoning that
he was talking about.
Furthermore, under.our ordinance -- and we have
I
been advised by our Planning Consultant that this is true
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1 this property can be amortized out in ten
years; the maxi-
2 mum of time is 40 years; the minimum time is ten years.
3 I will grant you that it hasn't come before the court yet,
4 so we dontt know the exact status of that law.
5 There is one side of this case that I think has
6 been a little neglected or that hasntt been brought out
7 fullyq and that is) that Mr. Taylor is enjoying benefits
a which the 35 people who are represented here this evening
9 are not allowed to enjoy, and that is not right under any
zoning law. He has a business there. Can anyone say that
I any of these 35 people wouldntt like to have a business
there too? So he has privileges over and above what they
have and he is enjoying those privileges) although they
are contrary to our zoning ordinance. Consequently, I
feel that those privileges should decidedly be restricted
to what he is enjoying at the present timet (applause)
MAYOR SELBY: Does anybody else have anything
they wish to say against Mr. Taylor's appeal? (Pause)
Now both sides have had two opportunities to present their
views and beliefs and their testimony.
MR. WOODWORTH: I would.suggest, Mr. Mayor,
since this has been a most pleasant and democratic hearing,
as I believe Mr. David Ettlesong the Stenograph Reporter
here tonight will testify to -- and I have attended many
such hearings but I dontt believe that I have ever in all
my experience attended a hearing where all of the parties
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addressed their remarks to the Council in such a dignified
and proper manner. I have heard a case presented by both
sides where they refrained so nicely from any anger and,
while there was severe partisanship at times, still it was
expressed in a gentlemanly and ladylike manner, and that
is the way a democratic proceeding should be handled.
In view of that, Mr. Mayor, I would suggest that
you give anybody a chance who wants to make a final state -
ment, either for or against, in view of this very pleasan
hearing that has been presented to you here, and make this
your final offer so that everybody present may feel that
they have had a full, fair opportunity to address their
City Council on this matter which is of great importance
to both sides.
MAYOR SELBYs If there is no objection from the
rest of the Board, I shall be only too glad to do that.
And I want to say, in addition, that meetings such as this
are rather typical of the kind that we people in E1 Segundo
carry on, and that is the way we settle our differences,
and I hope that we continue to settle them in that way,
the way we have done this evening.
22 If there are no objections from the rest of the
23 Board, we will give Mr. Taylor and his representative an
24 opportunity to say something more, and then we will go
25 back and give the rest of you an opportunity to say any -
26 thing more you might wish to say.
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MR. JOBE: This is indeed a surprise to me.
2 It is a new experience to me. I have been to a
good many
3 meetings on zoning and I assure
you that we don : t have
4 such a protracted opportunity to discuss these things.
5 I am very glad to have this additional opportunity$ how -
6 ever, because of a few statements that were made in the
rebuttal which have no semblance of truth and I would
8 like to correct you on those, if I may.
9 Mr. Taylorq for instances has no other place of
o business whatsoever. The statement was made that this is
i one place and that he also has another place of business
elsewhere. But he has no other place of business. The
reason he has this place of business where it is because
he lives in E1 Segundo, and his two sons are his partners
and their homes are here also. They are taxpayers just
as well as the others.
We could just go on and one but I shall make
this as brief as possible. The Chairman of the Planning
Commission stated that the people in R -1 surrounding this
property are just as much restricted as Mr. Taylor is;
which disproves the contention that I made originally$
which I still will hold to$ that in accordance with the
strict wording of the law, in an R -1 zone, when you have
single family occupancy of a dwelling, as I stated before$
you can make all the additional rooms that you like as
long as you observe the single family status of the
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1 dwelling. Of course? you have to comply with the requir
2 yard space because the lots are large enough as developed
3 but people can make additions of several rooms or what -
4 ever they want to do. They can do that, but this man is
5 absolutely prevented, so far as the zoning law is con -
6 cerned, from making any additions or changes without
special permission.
B It is true that Mr. Taylor is enjoying special
privileges that the other people there are not enjoying
and which they cannot enjoy at the present time, but that
is a fact of zoning, and it is through no fault of Mr.
Taylor and through no fault of anyone else that such is
the case. But if they would have established businesses
on their property before the zoning law went into effect,
they would today have the same privileges which he has.
But no one can come in there and open up a new business
of any sort because the district is zoned against it.
Howeverg that doesn't change the fact that this property
has that status. I admit that he does have a special
privilege, but he is there and he can stay there, as we
have found outp for an unlimited period of time, despite
the statement of the Commissioner here; for there is
nothing in that zoning ordinance that says it can be
limited to ten years. If anyone will make a careful stud
of the ordinance as I have done -- I have gone over it
thoroughly -- he will find that there is nothing in there
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1 at the present time that limits Mr. Taylor whatsoever.
2 MRS. BREWBAKER: I am under the impression that
s we cannot extend our houses forward because we will be
4 getting the houses out of line; and besides, why should we
5 extend our houses ten or fifteen feet and shut the view
6 off from the neighbors. Also, we cannot extend the back
yard for more than one room because our back rooms are in
8 the middle of the house then7 and so our kitchen would be
9 in the middle of the house$ and I believe that there are
0 sanitary and health laws which prevent that.
1 The only thing we could do would be to make a
2 big walk in a circle all around the house in order to get
3 to the bedroom. I don't think
You men know exactly what
it is to clean a house and then to have to go all around
in a big circle chasing yourself! I also believe that
there is something which restricts a back yard at least
to a depth of twenty -five feet, and those lots are only
135 feet.
MR. JOBE: Mr. Chairman, could I make one other
correction?
MAYOR SELBY: Yes, surely.
MR. JOBE: Thank you very much.
We were accused of making a threat, but there wa
no such purpose in our statement. In supporting this appl
cation I wanted to bring out the fact so that everyone
could understand what the true situation is; and I an
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attempting to justify the addition on the basis that it
might prevent a more obnoxious use of the property. There
is no threat there. It is simply a matter of business.
If Mr. Taylor cantt make his addition, he might be forced
to leave and, as I stated before] he has the right under
the law of leasing or selling that property for a similar
use to his own or any other use in the same category. And
I am basing my argument on the fact that his use is much
more restricted and he is a better neighbor than you would
generally find where you have an industrial use of propert .
For, as I stated previously -- and I want to
refresh peoplets minds as to this fact that property
could be used twenty -four hours a day within the use of •th
M -1 category, and Mr. Taylor uses his place very little of
the time, and he wants to stay therev and we are not mak
any threats whatsoever. But if he cannot operate there
because of the restrictions, he might have to leave. The
People here all talk about the value of their properties.
Well, he is interested in the value of his property also.
It is worth much more as an industrial use than it is as
a residential use, and you couldntt very well expect a man
to sell his property for considerably less than what it is
worth.
MAYOR SELBY: Thank you. Anybody else?
MR. RICHARDSs Well, we wouldntt ask him to sell
it for less than what it is worth. He certainly is enjoyi
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