2007-01-11 PC MinutesMINUTES OF THE MEETING
OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF EL SEGUNDO, CALIFORNIA
January 11, 2007
Commissioner Kretzmer called the meeting of the El Segundo Planning CALL TO ORDER
Commission to order at 7:02 p.m. in the Council Chamber of the City of
El Segundo City Hall, 350 Main Street, El Segundo, California.
Commissioner Rotolo led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
PRESENT: KRETZMER, FRICK, ROTOLO, WAGNER
ABSENT: FELLHAUER
None.
Chairman Kretzmer presented the Consent Calendar
Commissioner Wagner pulled Item E-1 stating that the December 14, 2006, Minutes
required some corrections. On page six, paragraph five, line thirty-three, the El
Segundo resident's name should read Croxall; page eight, paragraph two, line
twelve, the word house should read, "hours"; on page eight, paragraph seven, line
thirty-seven, the hours of operation should include "Sunday"; page nine, under the
motion to approve Environmental Assessment No. 661, Resolution 2614, he would
like it to read the conditions of approval were "approved as amended with conditions
number 4 and 5 amended and number 12 deleted" listed on page 9 of the Motion.
PLEDGE TO FLAG
ROLL CALL
PUBLIC
COMMUNICATIONS
CONSENT
CALENDAR
CALL ITEMS FROM
CONSENT
Commissioner Wagner moved, seconded by Commissioner Rotollo, to approve the MOTION
December 14, 2006, Minutes with corrections. Motion carried 3-0 (Kretzmer
abstained).
Planning Manager Christensen stated there are three items that have been provided WRITTEN
on the dais to the Commission, as well as the public, which are the revised Minutes, COMMUNICATIONS
as already discussed; revised Resolution 2616 relating to Agenda Item H-2; and a
one -page revised site plan changing what was originally provided relating to H-2
which was submitted by the applicant today.
Chairman Kretzmer presented Agenda Item H-2, Environmental Assessment No.
713 and Conditional Use Permit Number 06-06. Applicant: Christina Yoon (Holly
Main Liquor); Property Owners: John Doukakis; Address: 404 Main Street.
Planning Manager, Kimberly Christensen, stated that the Senior Planner William
Woollard would be presenting the staff report.
Senior Planner, William Woollard, presented the staff report (of record).
Mr. Jimmv Yoon — Holly Main Liquor General Manager
Mr. Yoon stated that the Alcohol Beverage Control Board informed them that it
PUBLIC HEARINGS,
NEW BUSINESS
EA NO. 713, and
CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT NO. 06-06,
request for a Type 42
On -Sale Beer and
Wine alcohol license.
PUBLIC
COMMUNICATIONS
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would be a separate wine -tasting license for that particular area indicated on the
original layout that was initially submitted to Planning staff so the new layout brought
in tonight indicated a revised, better layout for the wine tasting. He stated that he
intends to clean-up the area, move a magazine rack that is presently in the area
where they will be partitioning -off for the wine -tasting and that he would like to make
the store more up -scale by offering wine -tasting with cheese and crackers. He
added that he has a lot of great ideas, possibly to include a deli, and that this was
just one of them he would like to implement.
Commissioner Wagner stated that Mr. Yoon's application stated he would like to
have it on Mondays, from 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. He proposed that it would be
written in as a condition, and inquired as to how much room was going to be given to
the participants to get in and out of the wine tasting area; i.e., how wide was the
opening between the magazine rack and the wall partition with respect to the
passageway for the participants to get in and out.
Mr. Yoon stated it was approximately one to two feet.
Commissioner Wagner stated he cannot see one to two feet being alright with the
Fire Department.
Planning Manager Christensen stated that it was probably 44 inches, but it would be
subject to the regulation of Fire Code and ADA accessibility for minimum aisle width.
Commissioner Wagner stated to Mr. Yoon that he would probably want to check with
James Carver in the Fire Department to find out what the requirements are since he
did look at your initial plans and said no egress from behind the counter.
Chairman Kretzmer inquired as to whether the plan was to take-out the magazine
rack and move the cooler area?
Mr. Yoon replied, "yes", adding that his intent is to clean-up the whole area.
Chairman Kretzmer stated that he noticed that Mr. Yoon's intention was to limit the
number of wine -tasting participants to ten people and inquired of Mr. Yoon as to how
he proposed to limit that.
Mr. Yoon stated he wanted to email a certain number of people but that if more
people showed up, they would simply have to wait.
Chairman Kretzmer inquired with Mr. Yoon if, in fact, he only wanted a small amount
of people at -a -time.
Mr. Yoon replied, "yes".
Commissioner Rotolo stated he had a concern in making it a condition to a specific
night since Mr. Yoon might find that it may not work for him.
Commissioner Wagner reminded Commissioner Rotolo that one of the conditions of
approval is that the applicant must come back in six months to review it as far as
parking, noise, etc., so if the applicant wanted to change days or hours, he can bring
it up at that time.
Commissioner Rotolo inquired of Mr. Yoon as to whether or not the restriction for
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January 11, 2007
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Monday night only would be acceptable.
Mr. Yoon replied that the restriction would be okay but that he heard that Second
' City Bistro had their wine -tasting on Monday nights and it would be sending a lot of
the customers over there. He questioned if after six months he would be able to
change the night.
Chairmen Kretzmer inquired as to whether it was possible to phrase the condition in
such a way that the discretion is left to the department if they requested a change for
the day. He stated he was leery about committing to only Monday night for six
months and then find out that Monday does not work out.
Planning Manager Christensen stated that was part of the reason staff has worded
the condition as they did because sometimes things like that occur, and the date
may need to change. She stated that because it is limited to one day a week staff
did not have any strong concerns; however, staff could probably phrase it in such a
way to that it's subject to review by the Director of Planning and Building Safety.
Commissioner Wagner stated by modifying his earlier request regarding Condition
No. 1, leaving the wording as "one day a week", but adding the hours 5:00 p.m. to
8:00 p.m.
Planning and Building Safety Director, Gary Chicots, stated the other thing to
consider is if the applicant changes the date from a Monday to a Tuesday, he should
notify the Planning and Building Safety Department.
Chairman Kretzmer inquired of Mr. Koon that if he notified the Planning and Building
Safety Department ten days prior to the intended day change, would that condition
be agreeable.
Mr. Koon stated it would be acceptable.
Chairman Kretzmer asked of Mr. Koon if his intention was to begin his wine tasting
on Monday.
Mr. Koon stated yes because he wants to start it off slowly.
Commissioner Wagner inquired of Mr. Koon regarding Condition No. 1, if it would be
acceptable to state wine -tasting must be limited to 5:00 p.m. - 8:00 P.M. in the
second sentence.
Mr. Koon stated, "yes".
Assistant City Attorney Berger stated he had some suggested language for
revamping Condition No. 1. The first sentence of Condition No. 1 would remain as
is; the second sentence would read as follows, "Wine tasting activities are permitted
between 5:00 p.m. and 8:00 p.m.; a new sentence would be added, "Applicant may
change dates for wine tasting upon giving the Planning and Building Safety
Department ten days written notice."
Chairman Kretzmer stated that would be acceptable, but wondered if they needed to
start the wine tasting on Monday night as stated and have them give notice if they
want to change the day.
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Assistant City Attorney Berger stated that was at the discretion of the Commission;
however, if Mr. Yoon simply wants to give written notice about what the first date is
to the Planning and Building Safety Department, that would fulfill both the intent of
the Commission and the letter of the condition.
Commissioner Rotolo mentioned that there was no need to put it in the conditions
but the Planning and Building Safety Department just needs to know ten days before
you start.
Mr. Yoon inquired if that meant every night.
Chairman Kretzmer clarified to the applicant that it meant only if he changed the
date from which he originally elected to open.
Mr. Yoon replied with thanks.
Chairman Kretzmer closed the public discussion.
Commissioner Rotolo stated that he was in agreement with Commission Wagner
about adding a condition that would require any partition to comply with Building
Safety for access and egress since the sketch indicates a small aisle way.
Assistant City Attorney Berger stated that it would be a redundant condition since
the property owner and licensee would have to comply with the law in any event.
Commissioner Rotolo appreciated the clarification and stated there was no need to
add another condition.
Chairman Kretzmer stated he was not concerned since anything involved with
alcohol would be closely monitored, was sure the applicant and owner were going to
want to comply in order to make it successful, and wanted the applicant to make
sure they comply with Fire and Building regulations.
Commissioners Frick and Rotolo wished the applicant good luck.
Commissioner Wagner moved, seconded by Commissioner Rotolo, recommending MOTION
to City Council to adopt Resolution No. 2616, approving Environmental Assessment
No. 713 and Conditional Use Permit No. 06-06 regarding the proposed project for a
Type 42 On -Sale Beer and Wine Alcohol License for the purpose of having events in
a portion of the existing liquor store which is located in the Downtown Specific Plan
Zone for occasional wine tasting events. Motion carried 4-0.
Planning Manager Christensen stated to the Commission that, as conditioned, the
case would come back in six months for their review for compliance with the
conditions.
None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS,
CONTINUED
BUSINESS
Interim Planning and Building Safety Director, Gary Chicots, stated that information REPORT FROM
on the Housing Element would be forthcoming at an upcoming Planning DIRECTOR
Commission meeting.
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None.
PUBLIC
COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Kretzmer wished everyone a blessed, safe, and happy New Year. PLANNING
COMMISSIONERS
COMMENTS
None.
The meeting adjourned at 7:30 p.m.
PASSED AND APPROVED ON THIS 11th DAY OF JANUARY 2007.
Gary Chicots, Secretary of
the Planning Commission
And Interim Director of
Planning and Building Safety
A/
Michael Kretzmer, Chairman
Planning Commission
City of El Segundo, California
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