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Harada, Patricia
Subject: FW: August 15th CC Meeting - Agenda Item related to "Retiree Medical Insurance
Contribution"
From: Robert Turnbull <rturn ull3 1. me.c m>
Date: August 8, 2023 at 9:57:48 PM PDT
To: *ALL CITY COUNCIL <allcouncil l e und.or >
Cc: "Voss, Barbara" <bv ss °else 'undo.or >, "George, Darrell" <d eor a else undo.or >,, 'Hensley,
Mark" <mihensle hensle law rou .com>
Subject: Re: August 15th CC Meeting- Agenda Item related to "Retiree Medical Insurance
Contribution"
Hi All,
First of all, I would like to commend Mayor Drew Boyles for taking the time out of his busy schedule to
not only acknowledge my e-mail dated August 4, 2023, expeditiously on this topic, but to actually
commit to diving into this item and communicating back via email including the City Manager and City
Attorney.
I am completely dissatisfied with the level of response or acknowledgement from the remaining four
elected councilmembers: Pimentel, Pirsztuk, Giroux and Baldino.
We all have personal lives, professional lives, and a lot going on, but when you take your oath to serve
this community and to serve the public, you are expected to provide exceptional service and
acknowledge your residents however they might communicate with you.
After serving 28+ years to the City of El Segundo and having my voice silenced during those years as a
resident because of my position as an unbiased/apolitical exceptional police leader, you should be
ashamed and embarrassed that I must reach back out to ensure that four of the five elected
councilmembers actually received my communication, read it, comprehended it yet failed to respond as
requested and acknowledge it. In the private sector and even in government, you would be disciplined
or terminated for your failure to provide exceptional customer service and response, pitiful.
Since my last communication, I have taken the liberty to conduct an OSINT search to refresh my
recollection to help you navigate some history around this topic. In or about 2003, prior to the
pertinent language added (five full-time years of service with the City of El Segundo), a woman, now 71
years of age, by the name of Rosalie D. Dubois, was hired by the City of El Segundo as a secretary (not
sure we could even call her that then) for the two Police Captains at the Police Department, at the age
of 50-51 from the City of Manhattan Beach Unified School District (CaIPERS). I am aware of this because
I was a Lieutenant at the time. Dubois worked for the City of El Segundo for no more than three
months, submitted her retirement papers with CalPERS and the City of El Segundo taxpayers have been
paying for this woman's medical insurance for the past twenty years. We could not believe it at the
time.
I'm sure Human Resources has the list of those between when this benefit was negotiated on behalf of
bargaining groups at a significant cost for that package, and when the minimum five year El Segundo
City service requirement language was added. That list will show if cross referenced against theiryears
of service to El Segundo how many others like Dubois took advantage of a loophole in the administrative
language at the time.
As mentioned before, I can avail myself to those interested in looking deeper into this situation,
evaluating and making the right decision for our City, Community and its employees.
Bob Turnbull
26 Year Resident
1200 Block East Acacia Ave, El Segundo Ca 90245
310-345-0216
On Aug 4, 2023, at 5:17 PM, Robert Turnbull <rturnbull361 s e.com> wrote:
Hi Honorable Mayor Drew Boyles, Mayor Pro Tern Chris Pimentel and Councilmembers
Pirsztuk, Giroux and Baldino,
Happy Friday. I am writing you and have Cc:'d the City Manager, Deputy City Manager
and longtime City Attorney Mark Hensley to bring to your attention and raise significant
citizen concern and outrage about an alleged/proposed agenda item being drafted by
the Office of HR Director Rebecca Redyk coming your way to be heard at the August
15th Council Meeting to modify current language of Section 1A2.108 of the El Segundo
Administrative Code, entitled, "Insurance Benefits - Retiree Medical - City
Contribution."
Current language reads "Employees (including City Council Members) appointed to
positions after July 1, 2007 who concurrently service retire from Cal PERS and the City of
El Segundo after a minimum of five full-time years of service with the City of El Segundo
are eligible to receive a City provided retiree medical insurance contribution.
This language exists because this generous but extremely costly benefit was designed to
specifically reward City of El Segundo Employees and Council Members by caring for
them long after they cared and served the Citizens and Business Community of El
Segundo.
When this benefit was first approved by Council many years ago, they neglected to
include the language "five full-time years of service with the City of El Segundo" and
soon they realized, after a City of Manhattan Beach Secretary came to El Segundo for
two weeks of employment and then service retired, receiving the lifetime retiree
medical insurance contribution. Then it was the two-year employee, Public Works
Director that received the same benefit due to his age and service retirement from
CalPERS.
There are probably numerous other examples that the City can research for you, to
provide historical perspective, which caused a prudent and fiscally correct City Council
at the time to draft a resolution and approve it to modify the language to at least make
the lateral employee coming to El Segundo from some other City to work in our City full-
time for a minimum of five years or like Council Members, two terms to meet the five
year requirement, before receiving this costly but deserving benefit for those that have
honorably served our community.
Mayor and City Council, please don't be fooled and influenced by long term CalPers
Employees that have come here from other cities like Newport Beach, Duarte, Santa
Monica, Downey or Pomona and allow them to fool you into thinking this is an
appropriate move to improve recruitment when they all have a personal stake in the
matter. Recruitment and RETENTION is what you need at the highest level and changing
this lower than the existing 5 years would be the worst move this council could take.
This is far from a cost saving measure for the City of El Segundo and would just cripple
even more the future of the often -struggling OPEB Fund.
You don't want these kind of improprieties in our local Herald, or on social media. This
would not look good for the City Council of El Segundo, the City Manager, HR Director
and any other short term department heads in the Management Confidential group
looking to set themselves up on their way out without serving the City for at least 5
years.
This could also further impact and upset the already struggling taxpayers in this
community.
I must admit, I have not seen the written staff report as of this email and I do look
forward to seeing it if the City Manager tries to move forward with it. I can assure you
though, the rumblings and information swirling around this community already about
this alleged or proposed agenda item does not look good for Human Resources and City
Staff. If it has reached me, a retiree that has been gone from the City for 6 years and
other retirees and residents, that is not good for your business. I'm just trying to give
you a heads up and one perspective of something that will go sideways if not properly
examined and evaluated.
I welcome all phone calls and written responses from my elected officials to discuss this
in greater detail and I welcome the City Leadership to fact check what I have provided in
this quick e-mail today.
I would hope at the least you could respond to me and acknowledge receipt of this e-
mail since I rarely get the benefit of that.
Looking forward to hearing from someone interested on this topic.
Respectfully,
Bob Turnbull
26 Year Resident
1200 Block East Acacia Ave, El Segundo Ca 90245
310-345-0216