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Harada, Patricia
From: Weaver, Tracy (City Clerk)
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 8:00 AM
To: Sandoval, Lili; Harada, Patricia
Subject: Fwd: Four way stop on Pine and Whiting
Council received email below, please post.
Tracy Weaver
City Clerk
Begin forwarded message:
From: Dave Collard <dave.collard@gmail.com>
Date: April 17, 2023 at 7:19:51 AM PDT
To: ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS <ALLELECTEDOFFICIALS@elsegundo.org>
Cc: Hon Collard <annetwhite@gmail.com>
Subject: Four way stop on Pine and Whiting
Dear City Council Members,
I am writing to express my deep concern about the safety of the two-way stops at Whiting and West
Pine. As a resident of Whiting Street for over 10 years, I have witnessed a number of accidents and many
near -accidents at this intersection. Trucks, cars, and RVs parked on Pine often obscure the traffic and
create a dangerous situation for drivers on Whiting.
Moreover, people on Pine sometimes assume that it's a four-way stop and then pause, which inevitably
leads to the people on Whiting starting to go... just as the people on Pine realize it's not a four-way stop!
This confusion has only added to the hazardous conditions at this intersection.
I understand that you will be considering a request to convert the two-way stop signs into four-way stop
signs at your upcoming Council meeting. I wholeheartedly support this proposal and urge you to
prioritize the safety of our community by instructing Public Works to install these new signs as soon as
possible.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Please let me know if you have any questions.
All Best,
Dave
Harada, Patricia
From:
Weaver, Tracy (City Clerk)
Sent:
Monday, April 17, 2023 8:02 AM
To:
Harada, Patricia; Sandoval, Lili
Subject:
Fwd: PINE AND WHITING STOP SIGN REQUESTED ASAP.
Council received email below, please post.
Tracy Weaver
City Clerk
Begin forwarded message:
From: Patricia Santana <chelatinapatricia@yahoo.com>
Date: April 16, 2023 at 4:45:38 PM PDT
To: ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS <ALLELECTEDOFFICIALS@elsegundo.org>, "Xu, Lifan" <Ixu@elsegundo.org>,
"Sassoon, Elias" <esassoon@elsegundo.org>, "George, Darrell" <dgeorge@elsegundo.org>
Subject: PINE AND WHITING STOP SIGN REQUESTED ASAP.
I AM A LONG TIME RESIDENT HERE ON LOMA VISTA RESIDENT SINCE 1968.... I HAVE NOTICED
MORE CLOSE CALLS OF ACCIDENTS ON THIS CORNER AND ALSO QUITE DANGEROUS TO
CROSS.. PEOPLE SPEEDING AND NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO..
PLEASE CONSIDER DOING A STOP SIGN ASAP.. I AM MOVING MY MOTHER TO THIS AREA OF
TOWN ON LOMA VISTA AND PINE AND LIKES TO WALK IN THIS AREA.. SHE IS ELDERLY..
THANK YOU
PATRICIA KONECNY
Harada, Patricia
From: Weaver, Tracy (City Clerk)
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 8:00 AM
To: Harada, Patricia; Sandoval, Lili
Subject: Fwd: 4 Way Stop At Whiting and Pine
Council received email below, please post.
Tracy Weaver
City Clerk
Begin forwarded message:
From: Nancy Fortun <nancyfortun@aol.com>
Date: April 16, 2023 at 12:45:47 PM PDT
To: ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS<ALLELECTEDOFFICIALS@elsegundo.org>, "Xu, Lifan" <Ixu@elsegundo.org>,
"Sassoon, Elias" <esassoon@elsegundo.org>, "George, Darrell" <dgeorge@elsegundo.org>
Subject: 4 Way Stop At Whiting and Pine
Greetings,
It has come to my attention the city is considering making the intersection at Whiting and Pine a four
way stop. I live on Whiting Street and a four way stop would be such a relief for all of us who live in the
area. It is difficult to cross Pine with parked cars, sun glare, etc. There are kids on the street as well,
riding bikes and scooters. Please consider making this happen so we can all be safe here in our
neighborhood.
Thank You,
Nancy Fortun
513 Whiting St
Harada, Patricia
From: Weaver, Tracy (City Clerk)
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 8:01 AM
To: Sandoval, Lili; Harada, Patricia
Subject: Fwd: City Counsel Meeting - Whiting and Pine
Council received email below, please post.
Tracy Weaver
City Clerk
Begin forwarded message:
From: Lisa Grossman <lisatgrossman@yahoo.com>
Date: April 16, 2023 at 9:11:06 AM PDT
To: ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS<ALLELECTEDOFFICIALS@elsegundo.org>, "Sassoon, Elias"
<esassoon@elsegundo.org>, "George, Darrell" <dgeorge@elsegundo.org>, "Xu, Lifan"
<Ixu@elsegundo.org>
Subject: City Counsel Meeting - Whiting and Pine
Dear City Council members, City Manager and other interested parties,
I am writing you regarding the 2-way stop sign at Whiting and Pine. A neighbor alerted me that
this intersection is being discussed at the City Counsel meeting on Tuesday.
live on Hillcrest Street and drive through this intersection at least twice daily. When going
North or South on Whiting and stopping it can be challenging to see traffic traveling East or
West. I have many times experienced cars pulling out without seeing me when I have right of
way traveling on Pine. I have been honked at quite a few times when stopped at Whiting while
trying to be cautious. People seem to zip through this intersection and neighbors have also
alerted me of a recent accident there as well. Safety is a priority and I agree with the request to
make this a 4-way stop for this reason.
Thank you for your time.
Best regards,
Lisa Grossman
Harada, Patricia
From: Weaver, Tracy (City Clerk)
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 8:01 AM
To: Sandoval, Lili; Harada, Patricia
Subject: Fwd: In support of four way stop signs at West Pine/Whiting
Council received email below, please post.
Tracy Weaver
City Clerk
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul Lanyi <paul@bluepen.com>
Date: April 14, 2023 at 3:02:08 PM PDT
To: ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS<ALLELECTEDOFFICIALS@elsegundo.org>, "Xu, Lifan" <Ixu@elsegundo.org>,
"Sassoon, Elias" <esassoon@elsegundo.org>, degeorge@elsegundo.org, "Boyles,Drew (Mayor)"
<dboyles@elsegundo.org>
Subject: In support of four way stop signs at West Pine/Whiting
Hello
I have lived on Whiting Street between Pine and Mariposa for 19+ years and every day I have been
fearful of an accident at the two-way stops at Whiting and West Pine. Trucks/cars/RVs parked on Pine
obscure the traffic and many times I've had to creep out into the street while driving North on Whiting
only to be missed by a few feet by someone whizzing by.
A neighbor informed me that in your Council meeting this coming week you are considering a request to
convert two way stop signs on Whiting and West Pine into four way stop signs. I wholly support this
idea and, for the safety of our citizens, ask that the City Council instruct Public Works to install these
new signs as soon as possible.
Glad to answer any questions.
Thank you,
Paul
Paul Lanyi
310.686.0077
Harada, Patricia
From: Weaver, Tracy (City Clerk)
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 3:19 PM
To: Sandoval, Lili; Harada, Patricia
Subject: Fwd: In support of four way stop signs at West Pine/Whiting
Council received letter below, please post.
—Tracy
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul Lanyi <paul@bluepen.com>
Date: April 14, 2023 at 3:02:08 PM PDT
To: ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS <ALLELECTEDOFFICIALS@elsegundo.org>, "Xu, Lifan" <Ixu@elsegundo.org>,
"Sassoon, Elias" <esassoon@elsegundo.org>, degeorge@elsegundo.org, "Boyles,Drew (Mayor)"
<dboyles@elsegundo.org>
Subject: In support of four way stop signs at West Pine/Whiting
Hello
I have lived on Whiting Street between Pine and Mariposa for 19+ years and every day I have been
fearful of an accident at the two-way stops at Whiting and West Pine. Trucks/cars/RVs parked on Pine
obscure the traffic and many times I've had to creep out into the street while driving North on Whiting
only to be missed by a few feet by someone whizzing by.
A neighbor informed me that in your Council meeting this coming week you are considering a request to
convert two way stop signs on Whiting and West Pine into four way stop signs. I wholly support this
idea and, for the safety of our citizens, ask that the City Council instruct Public Works to install these
new signs as soon as possible.
Glad to answer any questions.
Thank you,
Paul
Paul Lanyi
310.686.0077
Harada, Patricia
From: Weaver, Tracy (City Clerk)
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 8:37 AM
To: Harada, Patricia; Sandoval, Lili
Subject: Fwd: Whiting/Pine Stop Sign
Council received email below, please post.
Tracy Weaver
City Clerk
Begin forwarded message:
From: Brandon Bachner <brandon.bachner@gmail.com>
Date: April 14, 2023 at 8:31:58 AM PDT
To: ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS <ALLELECTEDOFFICIALS@elsegundo.org>, "Xu, Lifan" <Ixu@elsegundo.org>,
"Sassoon, Elias" <esassoon@elsegundo.org>, "George, Darrell" <dgeorge@elsegundo.org>
Subject: Whiting/Pine Stop Sign
I am writing in support of the proposed four-way stop sign at the intersection of Whiting and Pine. Given
that I live at the end of Hillcrest, I drive through this intersection countless times each day and often
times try to avoid it due to some prior near misses I have had with cross traffic that I was unable to see
speeding through. Given how narrow our streets are, and the requirement to always be aware, moving
over to let people pass, the addition of stop signs to slow drivers through the community is essential.
Brandon Bachner
346 Hillcrest
Harada, Patricia
From: Weaver, Tracy (City Clerk)
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 8:38 AM
To: Sandoval, Lili; Harada, Patricia
Subject: Fwd: Request for stop signs at Pine & Whiting
Council received email below, please post.
Tracy Weaver
City Clerk
Begin forwarded message:
From: Gary Clouse <GaryClouse@msn.com>
Date: April 13, 2023 at 9:20:20 PM PDT
To: ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS <ALLELECTEDOFFICIALS@elsegundo.org>
Cc: "Xu, Lifan" <Ixu@elsegundo.org>, "Sassoon, Elias" <esassoon@elsegundo.org>, "George, Darrell"
<dgeorge@elsegundo.org>, Shuko Clouse <shukocl@gmail.com>, sarahmeyer426@gmail.com
Subject: Request for stop signs at Pine & Whiting
Dear City Council members, City Manager and other interested parties,
This letter is to request that the City convert the current 2-way stop signs at the corner of
Whiting Street and Pine Avenue to 4-way stop signs.
My family and I are quite familiar with this intersection, as we live one block south at the corner
of Whiting & Holly. Despite the 4-way stop at our corner, many cars cruise through at reduced
speeds without coming to a complete stop. We've even started calling them "pause signs." Still
it's better than nothing, which is the current situation at Whiting & Pine.
I'm no fan of stop signs and I don't want them at every corner in El Segundo. But our little
neighborhood has seen more and more traffic over the years, especially with drivers using
Whiting as a "cheat street" to avoid taking Main Street in the mornings and late afternoons /
early evenings.
The traffic is now heavy enough to warrant a 4-way stop at the corner of Whiting & Pine. It's
downright dangerous trying to make a turn from Whiting onto Pine in either direction. Some
cars driving on Pine stop completely when they reach this intersection, as they assume it must
be a 4-way stop. Meanwhile other cars seem to speed up at this corner, thrilled to see no stop
signs on Pine. Meanwhile the cars approaching on Whiting often assume the cars on Pine have
a stop sign, and I've seen several "near misses" as cars have screeched their brakes to avoid a
collision at this corner.
Our neighborhood is a blissful place full of kids walking to school and riding their bikes, seniors
taking a stroll, and homeowners walking their pets. Let's not wait until there's a serious
accident, or God forbid, a fatality at this intersection. We ask the Council to please do the right
thing and help calm down this busy corner.
Thank you for reading this and for your consideration.
Regards,
Gary & Shuko Clouse
403 Whiting St.
Harada, Patricia
From: Weaver, Tracy (City Clerk)
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 11:52 AM
To: Sandoval, Lili; Harada, Patricia
Subject: FW: Request for stop signs at Pine & Whiting
Council received email below, please post.
Thank you,
Tracy Weaver I City Clerk
City of El Segundo
350 Main Street El Segundo CA 90245
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From: Amy Piccioli <ames43@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 11:22 AM
To: ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS <ALLELECTEDOFFICIALS@elsegundo.org>
Cc: Xu, Lifan <Ixu@elsegundo.org>; Sassoon, Elias <esassoon@elsegundo.org>; George, Darrell
<dgeorge@elsegundo.org>
Subject: Request for stop signs at Pine & Whiting
City Council members, City Manager and to those it may concern,
I am writing to request the city convert the current 2-way stop signs at the corner of Whiting and Pine to 4-way stop
signs. I have been meaning to write this email for awhile and, ironically, this morning I was inches away from t-boning a
car going south on Whiting while I was headed east on Pine. The car on Whiting either 1) didn't realize I did not have a
stop and/or 2) did not see me coming since visibility on that intersection is so bad.
My husband, three children (ages 5 and under) and myself live at Hillcrest and Mariposa. We were delighted when the
City turned the corner of Hillcrest and Pine into a 4-way stop a couple years ago. As a parent whose children are
constantly on their bikes/scooters/feet walking the dog or going to neighborhood parks, that intersection was a constant
source of stress and fear with people driving down Hillcrest at unsafe speeds. Since the 4-way stop has been installed,
we have noticed a huge difference in the safety of that corner.
To me, the corner of Whiting/Pine is far more dangerous than Hillcrest/Pine ever was. First, when cars are parked on
Pine, it is nearly impossible for drivers on Whiting to see oncoming traffic. Second, in the morning and at night when the
sun is rising/setting, the visibility is so bad you cannot see pedestrians or crossing traffic. A 4-way stop would force
drivers on Pine to slow to a stop rather than blow through that intersection with impaired visibility. Finally, with most
other intersections in town being 4-way stops, many people stopping on Whiting do not realize the traffic on Pine does
not stop, as evidenced by my close call this morning.
It is only a matter of time before a serious car and/or pedestrian accident happens on this corner. I would ask the
Council to please make this a 4-way stop.
Thank you for your consideration.
Amy Piccioli
608 Hillcrest St